Lily M BULLOCK/Albert NELMES (General)
Hello,
Would anyone know if Lily m Bullock age 2 in the 1901 census married a Albert Nelmes before I go out and spend the money on a cert.
Many thanks,
Anne
Albert W NELMES/Lilian M BULLOCK
by MPGriffiths 
, Saturday, May 09, 2015, 14:55 (3495 days ago) @ anneglos
If you check on Gloucestershirebdm
Albert William NELMES married Lilian May BULLOCK - Forest of Dean Register Office Westbury on Severn 1924
Ancestry Probate
NELMES Albert William of Ampney Lane, Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire died 23 December 1962 at Over Hospital Gloucestershire.
Adminstration Gloucester 11 April to Lilian May NELMES - Widow. Effects £675.
Looking at the Death Index, Albert was born c1887
Fod records
Baptism at Westbury on Severn 17 April 1924
Marion Alice NELMES
parents: Albert William (labourer) and Lilian May
residence: Northwood Green
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Baptism at Blaisdon - 27 February 1887
Albert William NELMES - parents George (labourer) and Alice
1901 Census, Blaisdon
Wintles Farm
NELMES
George - 55 - Stockman on Farm (Cattle) - born Glos. Arlingham
Alice - 56 - born Wilts, Sherston
Albert W - 14 - Carter boy on Farm (Horse) - born Blaisdon
Albert W NELMES/Lilian M BULLOCK
Thankyou.
This is the correct family I looking for as they did have daughter Marion and lived at Northwood Green.
I am looking on behalf of someone else so they will have to get the marriage cert to be able to continue to see if Lilian is the Lily in the 1901 census with father Joseph.
Anne
Albert W NELMES/Lilian M BULLOCK
by shepway , Saturday, May 09, 2015, 16:33 (3495 days ago) @ anneglos
This would appear to be the death registration of Lilian May Nelmes:
Name: Lilian May Nelmes
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1892
Date of Registration: Dec 1982
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 1952
This gives her year of birth as 1892 and is therefore not likely to be the daughter of Joseph.
Checking Glos BMD we find:Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BULLOCK Liliam May BULLOCK BULLOCK BELCHER 1892 Gloucester Gloucester, Huntley 18 358
and on this site her baptism:
Year: 1892
Month: Aug
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: BULLOCK
Child_Forenames: Lilian May
Fathers_Forenames: Charles
Mothers_Forenames: Annie Maria
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Wintles Hill
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Leornard Wilkinson Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born July n/s 1892
Notes: Sunday Aug 21st
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/15
Page_Number: 270
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
This gives a good match for the date of birth quoted in the death registration.
Charles BULLOCK married Annie Maria BELCHER on 6 June 1892 at Westbury on Severn. Full details in the Parish Registers on the site.
This is the family in 1901 Census:
Household Number Name Relation to Head Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth Place
Westbury on Severn
20 Charles Bullock Head 32 1869 Male Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
20 Annie Maria Bullock Wife 26 1875 Female Northleach, Gloucestershire, England
20 Lilian May Bullock Daughter 8 1893 Female Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
20 Maurice Chas Bullock Son 6 1895 Male Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
20 Florence Gertrude Bullock Daughter 4 1897 Female Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
20 Sidney Willis Bullock Son 2 1899 Male Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
Mike
Albert W NELMES/Lilian M BULLOCK
Mike,
Thankyou for that. I will keep it in mind and suggest they buy a marriage cert of there grandparents lilian and Albert Nelmes to confirm the parents names.
Anne
Albert W NELMES/Lilian M BULLOCK
by shepway , Saturday, May 09, 2015, 17:48 (3495 days ago) @ anneglos
This would appear to be Lilian May in 1911 Census:
Name Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Occupation Birth Place Address
Lilian May Bullock Inmate 1893 18 Female Single Formerly Domestic servant Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire The Workhouse, Westbury On Severn, The Workhouse, Westbury On Severn
Doris Bullock Inmate 1911 1/12 Female Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire The Workhouse, Westbury On Severn, The Workhouse, Westbury On Severn
And this the baptism of a daughter:
Year: 1911
Month: May
Day: 6
Parents_Surname: BULLOCK
Child_Forenames: Doris
Fathers_Forenames: [base child]
Mothers_Forenames: Lilian
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Westbury
Occupation: Single Woman
Officiating_Minister: JSDS Stillingfleet Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/18
Page_Number: 55
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Mike
Albert W NELMES/Lilian M BULLOCK/BENNETT?
by MPGriffiths , Saturday, May 09, 2015, 17:50 (3495 days ago) @ anneglos
The Gazette : Deceased Estates.
Published 26 May 1998
Surname: Nelmes
First name: Marion
Middle name: Alice
Date of death: 29 September 1997
Claim expires: 29 September 1997
address: Ampney Lane, Northwood Green, Westbury on Severn Glos : This is the same address as Albert William's given in previous reply
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There appears on Public Members Tree on Ancestry - the marriage of Lilian May BULLOCK (father Charles) to George BENNETT in 1917
Gloucestershirebmd
The marriage took place at Westbury on Severn, Register Office
and on the 1911 census
Lilian May BULLOCK aged 18 - is in the Workhouse at Westbury on Severn
and her death at Winchester - Dec 1980
Lilian May BENNETT aged 88 - date of birth 30 April 1892
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Another Public Members Tree says Lilian (father Charles) died in Australia
Also George BENNETT - born 1885 - Edgehill's Mitcheldean - died 6 April 1951 in Albany Australia
so lots of confusion.
Albert W NELMES/Lilian M BULLOCK/BENNETT?
So lilian in the workhouse isnt mine as I know she married Albert nelmes. Or am I missing something.
Anne
Albert W NELMES/Lilian M BULLOCK/BENNETT?
by shepway , Saturday, May 09, 2015, 23:41 (3495 days ago) @ anneglos
At this moment in time we do not know if your Lilian May is the one who had a child in the workhouse or not but there is another child born out of wedlock to a Lilian May Bullock:
Births Sep 1914
Bullock Kate Bullock Westbury S. 6a 507
and this is the baptism:
Year: 1918
Month: Oct
Day: 23
Parents_Surname: BULLOCK
Child_Forenames: (Lilian Mary) Kate
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Lilian May
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Church Lane
Occupation: [Not stated]
Officiating_Minister: Arthur E T McNamara
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/18
Page_Number: 76
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
There is a marriage for a Kate Bullock to Ivor George Askew on 19 December 1936. Father is said to be Charles Bullock and the witness is Maurice Charles Bullock and this is his birth reg:
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname
Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BULLOCK Maurice Charles BULLOCK BULLOCK BELCHER 1894
Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham (from 1893) 1 225
This birth registration tells us that he is Lilian May's brother.
Whilst the evidence so far suggests that the Lilian May Bullock who had a daughter Kate out of wedlock later married Albert Nelmes we must exercise caution. The decision to obtain the marriage certificate for Lilian May is a wise one.
Mike