Joseph Simmonds (General)
by nimrod, Wednesday, February 17, 2016, 16:26 (3211 days ago)
I have a silver pendant (probably a fob from an Albert watch chain)and on the back is inscribed,
C.D.C.L.
J.SIMMONDS
1931-32
I wondered for years what the initials stand for and what happened at that time. Can anyone help?
Nimrod
Joseph Simmonds, C.D.C.L. ?
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Wednesday, February 17, 2016, 22:19 (3211 days ago) @ nimrod
Hi,
any clues you can provide as to his wherabouts, and his work, political interests (Labour or Conservative, perhaps), hobbies etc would help, please.
Are these your Joseph ?, the dates almost tie-in ?.
Record_ID: 108206
Entry_Number: 737
Year: 1956
Month: Mar
Day: 22
Surname: SIMMONDS
Forenames: Joseph
Residence: 15 Ashmead R[oa]d Cinderford
Age_at_death: 59 years
Officiating_Minister: Eric G Pritchard Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: Died at Gloucester Royal Hospital
Notes: 25/56 written in margin
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/16
Page_No: 93
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: S553
Record_ID: 109156
Entry_Number: 17
Year: 1926
Month: Jul
Day: 10
Grooms_Surname: SIMMONDS
Grooms_Forenames: Joseph
Grooms_Age: 31
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Iron Worker
Grooms_Residence: Beachley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Simmonds
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Iron Worker
Brides_Surname: VICKERY
Brides_Forenames: Alice Catherine
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Tutshill Tidenham
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Vickery
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Quarryman
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Kate Vickery
Witness_2: E.Francis
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Reginald Steen Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: After bride's father's surname it states deceased
Register_Reference: P333/1 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 9
Parish_Chapel: Tidenham
Soundex_Groom: S553
Soundex_Bride: V260
My first guess for C.D.C.L. in this case would be something like "Chepstow & District Cricket League", which sadly I don't think ever existed...
But a local sporting win seems unlikely for a potentially expensive silver item such as this, especially a team event, altho the date does suggest it's an annual award. Seems more like a medal of honour, bravery award etc. Doesn't appear to relate to a significant age milestone, nor a long-service award given his fairly young age in 1931. If he was an iron-worker in Beachley, is this relevant ?. Army Apprentices College perhaps, or even the WW1 National Shipyard that preceded it, Joseph would have just been old enough to work there ?.
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Joseph Simmonds
by HarryBrook , Saturday, February 20, 2016, 11:52 (3208 days ago) @ nimrod
Cinderford District Cribbage League?
Joseph Simmonds
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Saturday, February 20, 2016, 15:19 (3208 days ago) @ HarryBrook
Cinderford District Cribbage League?
Hi Harry, do you know if there was one ?
I ask as I searched the Glos papers c1930s in the BNA site for Crib, Darts and even Dominoes (was that played in the Forest, more north country methinks?). Admittedly I was trying to tie the "D" to a sport as well as the "C", but now I think it more likely the "D" is for District, as you say. Those initial BNA hits seemed to suggest that Crib was gaining popularity in the mid 30s onwards, when there was definitely a FoD League. However I don't have a subscription so cannot read the full articles. Thinking about it again, logically this would suggest there maybe other, smaller local Leagues running before a Forest one started ?.
IF (?) our Joseph was in the Tidenham/Beachley area in the 30s as per the Marriage Record(which hopefully is his?), then could it have been a Chepstow League ? Revisiting BNA gives this hit for that area and the right year,
"CRIBBAGE CHAMPIONSHIPS The finals for the County British Legion whist and cribbago championships were played off at Sharpness, when the Lydney Branch ..."
Friday 11 November 1932, Gloucester Citizen.
???.
Joseph Simmonds
by HarryBrook , Saturday, February 20, 2016, 16:40 (3208 days ago) @ Jefff
In the 1939 Register, at 13, Ashmead Road, Cinderford were living -
Joseph Simmonds, born 11.6.1896, married, colliery surface worker
Nellie Simmonds, born 19.7.1900, married, unpaid domestic duties
Harold Simmonds, born 22.7.1922, single, colliery on setter
Ralph Simmonds, born 11.7.1924, single, builders labourer
+ two other, no doubt younger, whose records are closed.
Joseph Simmonds married Nellie Hopson in quarter 1 of 1920 in the Westbury on Severn Registration District.
I will stick with Cinderford District Cribbage League.
Joseph Simmonds
by nimrod, Sunday, February 21, 2016, 16:54 (3207 days ago) @ HarryBrook
Thank you for your research and thoughts. I think CDCL does stand for Cinderford & District Cribbage League. The front of the fob has an inset of rose gold so they must have had funds. The newspaper article looks interesting so I will follow it up. Joseph Simmonds was the son of Joseph and Dinah nee Morgan of Cinderford.
Nimrod
Joseph Simmonds
by probinson , S. Oxon, Sunday, February 21, 2016, 21:02 (3207 days ago) @ Jefff
Full article reads:
"Cribbage Championships.
The finals for the County British Legion whist and cribbage championships were played off at Sharpness, when the Lydney branch defeated Redcliffe, Bristol, in the whist final and lost to Wickwar in the cribbage final. The Lydney branch will now represent the county in the areas championship"