Frank RHODES, born 1877 Cinderford, now coal miner in Wigan. (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Saturday, March 05, 2016, 00:12 (3195 days ago) @ Jefff

Searching for Frank and all "Rhodes born Cinderford 1870-1880";

1901 Census, Manchester Rd, Ince In Makerfield, Wigan, Lancashire.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
John Daberner Head M 76 RETIRED COAL HEWER. Pemberton, Lancashire
Hannah Daberner Wife F 60 Cinderford, Gloucestershire
Frank Rhodes Step-Son COLLIERY LABOURER BELOW GROUND.M 24 Cinderford, Gloucestershire

Name Frank Rhodes
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Ince In Makerfield
Sub-District Hindley
Registration District Wigan
Gender Male
Age 34
Birthplace Cinderford, Gloucestershire
Record Type Household

NB Familysearch only gives me individuals, not whole Households, for 1911 Census...

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Despite FreeBMD showing there were a considerable number of "Frank Rhodes" in Lancashire throughout the years, there's just ONE in the Wigan BMD District, and given the date wrt the above Census', I wouldn't be surprised if it's your Frank;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%)
ASPINALL Jane Wigan 8c 75
Gratton Isaac George Wigan 8c 75
Jenkinson Margaret Wigan 8c 75
Rhodes Frank Wigan 8c 75

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wigan.html

So now revisiting the 1911 Census on Familysearch we find;

Name Margaret Rhodes
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Ince In Makerfield
Sub-District Hindley
Registration District Wigan
Gender Female
Age 36
Birthplace Teitt Green Orrell, Lancashire
Record Type Household

Please can someone confirm if this is indeed the same household as Frank's, everything seems to fit nicely.. ?

Their children ?

Name May Jenkinson Rhodes
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Ince In Makerfield
Sub-District Hindley
Registration District Wigan
Gender Female
Age 8
Birthplace Higher Ince, Lancashire
Record Type Household

(Second name suggests born out of wedlock, mother's maiden name Jenkinson ?, she was aged 3 when Margaret married Frank)

Surname Given Name District Volume Page Transcribers
Births Jun 1903
Jenkinson May Wigan 8c 123 Sukie

Name Thomas Rhodes
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Ince In Makerfield
Sub-District Hindley
Registration District Wigan
Gender Male
Age 4
Birthplace Higher Ince, Lancashire
Record Type Household

Name William Rhodes
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Ince In Makerfield
Sub-District Hindley
Registration District Wigan
Gender Male
Age 3
Birthplace Higher Ince, Lancashire
Record Type Household

Name John Rhodes
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Ince In Makerfield
Sub-District Hindley
Registration District Wigan
Gender Male
Age 0
Birthplace Higher Ince, Lancashire
Record Type Household

" Ince, called Ince in Makerfield to distinguish it from Ince Blundell in the same hundred, lies immediately to the east of Wigan, of which it is a suburb,...
The population in 1901 was 21,262, including Platt Bridge. The general aspect is unpleasing, it being a typical black country in the heart of the coal-mining area. The flat surface, covered with a complete network of railways, has scarcely a green tree to relieve the monotony of the bare wide expanses of apparently waste land, much of it covered with shallow 'flashes' of water, the result of the gradual subsidence of the ground as it is mined beneath. Needless to say no crops are cultivated. All the energies of the populace are employed in the underground mineral wealth of the district, Ince being famous for cannel and other coal.

The northern part of the township merges into the town of Wigan, the principal features being huge cotton mills and warehouses, crowding the banks of the canals and River Douglas, which here degenerates into a grimy ditch, with never a bush or tree to shade its muddy banks."
From http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol4/pp101-106

Ref Margaret born abt 1875 at "Teitt Green, Orrell". I think this should perhaps read Kitt Green, which is between Wigan and Orrell, and the same general area as Pemberton, mentioned on husband Frank's 1901 Census transcript ?.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pemberton,_Greater_Manchester

Familysearch gives these near-perfect fits;

1901 Census, Belle Green Lane, Ince In Makerfield, Wigan, Lancashire.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Jenkinson Head M 52 COAL HEWER Cleaton, Cumberland
Jane Jenkinson Wife F 63 Orrell, Lancashire
Margaret Jenkinson Daughter F 26 COTTON SPINNER Orrell, Lancashire
Peter Fishwick Grand Son M 6 Pemberton, Lancashire

1891 Census, Brook Street, Ince In Makerfield, Wigan, Lancashire.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Jenkerson Head M 42 Coal Miner Cumberland, England
Jane Jenkerson Wife F 53 Lancashire, England
Maggie Jenkerson Daughter F 16 Cotton Spinner Lancashire, England

1881 Census, Taylors Sqre Of New Hall St, Ince In Makerfield, Wigan, Lancashire.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Jenkinson Head M 30 Coal miner. Cleaton, Cumberland, England
Jane Jenkinson Wife F 43 Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Thomas Winstanley (Jenkinson) Stepson M 20 Coal miner. Pemberton, Lancashire, England
William Winstanley (Jenkinson) Stepson M 17 Coal miner. Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Margaret Jenkinson Daughter F 6 Pemberton, Lancashire, England