Alice Mary MORGAN in 1891, in Dr TROTTER household. (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Saturday, February 11, 2017, 20:50 (2851 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

From FamilySearch;

1891 Census; Coalway Road, St John's Parish, Monmouthshire.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace

Leslie B Trotter Head M 40 Married. Doctor of Medicine. Gloucestershire, England
Mary Trotter Wife F 40 Married. Herefordshire, England
Leslie B C Trotter Son M 8 Scholar. Gloucestershire, England
Wilfred B L Trotter Nephew M 18 Unmarried. Student of science. Gloucestershire, England
Frances Trotter Niece F 24 Unmarried. Australia
Alice Morgan Servant F 28 Unmarried. Domestic cook. Clearwell, Gloucestershire, England
Emily Willis Servant F 15 Unmarried. Domestic Servant. Gloucestershire, England

Ed, as if to confuse us all when starting our FH studies, the Victorian Census forms for the western edge of the Forest often infer we are in Monmouth and even Wales. Since ancient times and long before the town of Coleford existed, despite lying east of the Wye and within Gloucestershire, England, this edge of the Forest has been "governed" from the ancient town of Monmouth, which is just across the county & national border. Monmouth is therefore in Wales, altho' it seems that Monmouthshire was considered an English County in the 1800s, perhaps due to it's abundance of mineral resources. Anyhow, I'm pretty sure this Census relates to an area not far from Clearwell, and just east of Coleford towards Coalway, St John's is the C of E Church of Coleford.

This FoD website contains several excellent maps, all accessed from the "Forest of Dean" heading mid-way along the site's main blue banner menu. eg
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/joomla/index.php/forest-of-dean-parish-map
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/joomla/index.php/resources/11-maps/89-early-map-of-the-pa...

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Alice Morgan is clearly working in a respectable household. Dr Leslie Batten Trotter is mentioned within this 1902 Trade Directory for Coleford.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cbennett/coleford1902.htm
And this 1879 one, which shows several prominent Trotter and Batten households in Coleford at this time.
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/joomla/index.php/resources/kelly-s-directory-1879/46-cole...

From FreeBMD site;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Dec 1850 (>99%)
Trotter Leslie Batten Monmouth 26 86

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
CLAYPOLE Elizabeth Mary Farnham 2a 151
Trotter Leslie Batten Farnham 2a 151
(Farnham in Surrey)

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1934 (>99%)
Trotter Leslie B 84 Ledbury 6a 522

His son's Baptism from this site's PRs;

Record_ID: 158185
Entry_Number: 64
Year: 1882
Month: Oct
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: TROTTER
Child_Forenames: Leslie Batten Currie
Fathers_Forenames: Lesile Baten
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Edward Fison
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Aug 4 1882
Notes:
Register_Reference: D2598 8/4
Page_Number: 20
Parish_Chapel: Coleford Wesleyan Methodist
Soundex: T636

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1914 (>99%)
PIERCE Hilda M Trotter Nottingham 7b 761
Trotter Leslie B C Pierce Nottingham 7b 761

Deaths Dec 1964 (>99%)
TROTTER LESLIE B C 82 GLOUCESTER C. 7B 449

Leslie B.C. was educated at Cambridge, served in the trenches of WW1, and in latter years was a GP at Ledbury and possibly Newnham.

"LESLIE BATTEN CURRIE TROTTER (born 1882). M.A., M.D., B.Ch. (Cantab.).
Leslie Batten Currie Trotter (born 1882) [Epsom College 1898-1901] was the son of Dr L. B. Trotter, of Coleford, Gloucestershire. He received his medical education at Clare College, Cambridge and University College Hospital, before entering general practice at Ledbury, Herefordshire. During the First World War he served as a Captain in the R.A.M.C., at Ypres and in Italy (1914-1918)."
http://atelim.com/epsom-college-1855-1899-general-practitioners-medical-officers.html?p...

Also see prior thread https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=50936

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Nephew Wilfred B.L.Trotter was clearly an excellent student and became a very well-known doctor indeed, "a pioneer in neurosurgery .... an authority in cancers of the head and neck."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_Trotter

So Wilfred was born in Coleford. I cannot find his Baptism in the PRs, but his birth was registered in Monmouth, from FreeBMD;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Dec 1872 (>99%)
TROTTER Wilfred Batten L Monmouth 11a 26

This forum has had several mentions of the Trotters from Coleford, including links to descendants in Australia.