Charlotte MORGAN b. 1827 Ruardean d/o John & Amelia (General)

by Bradley Tingle, Thursday, March 23, 2017, 03:37 (2811 days ago)

I've been searching for my half-great-grandaunt Charlotte Morgan for over 20 years. I can trace her until December 15, 1848 when her illegitimate son John Morgan was born in Ruardean. (The father's name was not given on his birth certificate.) Charlotte's son John was raised by his maternal grandmother Amelia Tingle (nee Bradley, previously Morgan).

I believe that Charlotte Morgan is the unmarried servant, age 22, born Ruardean living in the home of Inn Keeper Thomas Roper in the Parish of Ross at the time of the 1851 census.

There were other Charlotte Morgans that married, died and were buried in and around the Forest of Dean but none that I have found to date have been this Charlotte Morgan. I have been able to trace her 10 siblings (Morgan and Tingle) but Charlotte is a mystery.

Any suggestions and/or help would be very much appreciated.
Donna

Charlotte MORGAN b. 1827 Ruardean d/o John & Amelia

by MPGriffiths @, Thursday, March 23, 2017, 16:09 (2811 days ago) @ Bradley Tingle

There is a previous thread on this family from 9 March 2011 : First heading 'John Morgan 1800-1835

Inc 1851 census of Emelia Tingle aged 44 and a Widow living in Aberdare + John Morgan aged 2 born St Bravials

Charlotte MORGAN b. 1827 Ruardean d/o John & Amelia

by Bradley Tingle, Thursday, March 23, 2017, 17:11 (2811 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Yes, that is our family. It doesn't however answer my current query about the disappearance of Amelia's daughter, Charlotte Morgan. It would be nice to connect with someone who perhaps is descended from her or knows her story. Thanks for trying to help.
Donna

Charlotte MORGAN b. 1827 Ruardean d/o John & Amelia

by ljdove, Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 13:07 (1349 days ago) @ Bradley Tingle

Hi Donna

Better late than never ...

I have just discovered that Charlotte married as Charlotte Tingle in Chepstow on 20 July 1857.

Her husband was James Boux - but despite that unusual name, I have not been able to find any further trace of them.

We must be distant cousins.

Lesley

Charlotte MORGAN b. 1827 Ruardean d/o John & Amelia

by Bradley Tingle, Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 14:35 (1349 days ago) @ ljdove

My goodness, Lesley, what a wonderful message to see first thing in the morning here in Canada. I can’t believe I never thought to look for her under her step father’s surname. Well done! Yes, we must be related and I’m excited to explore that possibility. I have taken DNA tests and uploaded to the other major websites as have my brother and sister and another Morgan descendant and mutual cousin. You can contact me at dfgenealogy@gmail.com. I look forward to meeting you and working with you and our mutual cousin on discovering the rest of Charlotte’s story.
Best wishes, Donna Fraser

Charlotte MORGAN b. 1827 Ruardean d/o John & Amelia

by shepway @, Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 14:47 (1349 days ago) @ ljdove

This family appears in registers as BOX.

There are 3 Baptisms recorded in the Registers on this site:
Year Surname First Name Fathers Forename Mothers Forename Event Parish/Chapel
1858 BOX George James Charlotte Baptism Lydney
1860 BOX Ann James Charlotte Baptism Lydney
1861 BOX Albert James Charlotte Baptism Lydney

and they can be found in the 1861 and 1871 census:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Upper Forge, Newland, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Box Head Married Male 28 1833 Puddler -
Charlotte Box Wife Married Female 28 1833 - -
James Box Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar -
George Box Son - Male 2 1859 - -

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Monmouth Cottage, Upper Llanfrechfa, Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales
Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Box Head - Male 38 1833 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Charlotte Box Wife - Female 43 1828 - Gloucestershire, England
George Box Son - Male 13 1858 - Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Box Son - Male 8 1863 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Clarissa Box Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Monmouthshire, Wales
John Box Nephew - Male 5 1866 - Gloucestershire

Mike

Charlotte MORGAN b. 1827 Ruardean d/o John & Amelia

by shepway @, Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 15:00 (1349 days ago) @ shepway

This is the family in 1881:

4, Staffordshire Row, Panteague Aka Panteg, Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales
Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Box Head Married Male 55 1826 Puddler Monmouthshire, Wales
Annie Box Wife Married Female 45 1836 - Princes End, Staffordshire, England
George John Box Son Single Male 14 1867 Coaching In Iron Works Redbrook, Monmouthshire, Wales
Thomas Alfred Box Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
George Box Nephew Single Male 22 1859 Engine Cleaner G W R (On Rail) Lydney, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Box Nephew Single Male 18 1863 Engine Cleaner G W R (On Rail) Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England

Charlotte is no longer the wife of John and we find her death as follows:
Deaths Sep 1876
Box Charlotte 45 Pontypool 11a 84

and burial (source: mogenes.org.uk)
Parish, Chapel or Location Llanfihangel Pontymoile
Burial Date 16 Aug 1876
Surname BOX
Forename(s) Charlotte
Residence Llanfrechfa Upper
Age at death 45
Officiating Minister Henry DAVIES
Cause of death
Memoranda (in the source)
Transcriber's Notes
Event Burial
Gwent record office
register ref. number LDS/PA 25
Parish register entry no.
Parish register page no.
Record_ID 74876
Transcription Llanfihangel Pontymoile Burials 1865-1887
Transcribers entry no. 438

Mike

Charlotte MORGAN b. 1827 Ruardean d/o John & Amelia

by Bradley Tingle, Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 15:26 (1349 days ago) @ shepway

Thank you!
Donna

Charlotte MORGAN b. 1827 Ruardean d/o John & Amelia

by Bradley Tingle, Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 15:27 (1349 days ago) @ shepway

Thank you.
Donna

Charlotte MORGAN b. 1827 Ruardean d/o John & Amelia

by ljdove, Thursday, March 25, 2021, 08:11 (1348 days ago) @ shepway

Many thanks Mike!

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