Eliza Dovey was my husbands 2 x great grandmother. I have found that she was buried 21st August 1862 at Ruardean. Have been unable to find her death on the government BMD register. Can anyone help please?

Hi Shirley,
curious one this !

as you know Eliza appears (to me anyhow) to have lived and died in the Ruardean/Lydbrook area, she was there in 1851 and 1861/1862;

Record_ID: 41668
Entry_Number: 5358
Year: 1862
Month: Aug
Day: 21
Surname: WALFORD
Forenames: Eliza
Residence: East Dean
Age_at_death: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: W Penfold
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/12
Page_No: 171
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: W416

In 1861 she was in Moorwood, my gran's neck of the woods twixt Ruardean & Lydbrook;

1861 Census, Moorwood, East Dean, Glos
Given Name Surname Relationship Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth City Birth County Birth Country
William Walford Head 45 1816 Male Kidderminster Worcestershire England
Eliza Walford Wife 50 1811 Female Lybrook Gloucestershire England
Richard Walford Son 20 1841 Male Lybrook Gloucestershire England
Samuel Walford Son 14 1847 Male Lybrook Gloucestershire England

My experience suggests her death would have been registered at Monmouth or Ross. However, as you've probably already seen, I can only find these records, using FreeBMD;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1862 (>99%)
Walford Elizabeth Billericay 4a 73
Walford Elizabeth Shoreditch 1c 107

Deaths Sep 1862 (>99%)
Walford Eliza Bridgnorth 6a 307

Deaths Dec 1862 (>99%)
WALFORD Elizabeth Banbury 3a 428

Deaths Mar 1863 (>99%)
WALFORD Elizabeth Oakham 7a 176

Deaths Sep 1863 (>99%)
WALFORD Eliza Woodbridge 4a 439

Do you think her death may have been registered at say Bridgenorth, perhaps she was visiting family ?. Were there any boating people in the family, Bridgenorth's not too hard to get to via the Severn?.

Please note it took me ages to find the death record for one of my ancestors, a man living in Longhope, until I discovered (via the old newspapers) he died while working on the Hereford - Newport railway line, knocked down by a train at St. Devereux near Kilpeck (where the Inquest took place). His wife and family were in Longhope, yet his death was registered at Hereford, presumably by a railway or police official ?.

Do you know why/how Eliza died ?. Was there an Inquest or Will which may help pinpoint the locality ?.

OR, could this be her, mistakenly registered in her maiden name ?

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1862 (>99%)
DOVEY Elizabeth Monmouth 11a 14

If it's any help the GR 1851 Census does show William's occupation as a Waterman.

A check of the death registration in the name of Elizabeth DOVEY on the GRO online index gives us this detail:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
DOVEY, ELIZABETH 55
GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in MONMOUTH Volume 11A Page 14

The age given is close to the expected age of the person sought.
It is also worth mentioning that a pdf copy of the entry can be ordered from the GRO website at a cost of £8.00 .

Mike

GR having helpfully transcribed him as William WATFORD it took me a while to find that by 1861 he was described as a Butcher.

I have also checked the GRO online entry for Eliza WALFORD whose death is registered at Bridgnorth and here are details:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
WALFORD, ELIZA 48
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in BRIDGNORTH Volume 06A Page 307

Mike

I have also checked the GRO online entry for Eliza WALFORD whose death is registered at Bridgnorth and here are details:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
WALFORD, ELIZA 48
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in BRIDGNORTH Volume 06A Page 307

Mike

She was buried in St. Leonard'S Church, Bridgnorth so not the one we're looking for I think.

Thanks for the help Mike & Mike, I forgot abt their online site.

(Possibly a subconcious thing as sadly that site dismally failed to help me when I tried a few weeks, it didn't include some births that were on the FreeBMD site... )

So thanks again !

GR having helpfully transcribed him as William WATFORD it took me a while to find that by 1861 he was described as a Butcher.

Thanks again Mike.
So a good case for Bridgenorth, esp if the 1861 actually reads "Boater" .. ;-)

Think we'll settle for Monmouth then, thanks for the ages info, and to you too PRobinson.

Hope you all enjoyed a good Easter,
Jeff.

Think we'll settle for Monmouth then, thanks for the ages info, and to you too PRobinson.

I'm not so sure as there was an Elizabeth Dovey (nee Bird) buried in Lydbrook that is a better match.

Record_ID: 22764
Entry_Number: 155
Year: 1862
Month: Nov
Day: 9
Surname: DOVEY
Forenames: Elizabeth
Residence: Lydbrook
Age_at_death: 55
Officiating_Minister: Robert Smythe Hopkins Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P208 IN 1/11
Page_No: 20
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook
Soundex: D100

Sorry, don't have any more info about Eliza other than census records. Thanks for your help.

Think we'll settle for Monmouth then, thanks for the ages info, and to you too PRobinson.

I'm not so sure as there was an Elizabeth Dovey (nee Bird) buried in Lydbrook that is a better match.

Certainly looks like it, thanks for checking that out; once again proper research gets the better of my "enthusiastic amateur" approach :-)

Sorry, don't have any more info about Eliza other than census records. Thanks for your help.

You're very welcome Shirley, sorry we haven't yet found the elusive record.
At least you have the clear evidence of the Burial Record, thanks yet again to the good people who set-up this great site, which we are all so fortunate to benefit from.
atb J

Certainly looks like it, thanks for checking that out; once again proper research gets the better of my "enthusiastic amateur" approach :-)

Just luck really Jeff. I barely consider myself to be competent - I'm still at the stumbling around in the dark stage.

Hi Shirley,

I haven't been on this site for a long while and just saw your post, Eliza was my great x3 grandmother and I've attached her Dovey tree aswell as the Walford tree I did a few years back now.

https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=eliza1&id=I1

https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=walford1&id=I257

Andrew