Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840 (General)
by WoolTree 
, Boston, MA, USA, Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 02:10 (2257 days ago)
Richard Ball is my great, great, great grandfather. He was born in Woolaston, Gloucestershire around 1820 to 1840. We know he moved to the Pontypool area where he married Jane Cecil around 18**. He died in Pontypool area around 1891. In particular I am interested in locating any information on his parents, grandparents and siblings. Any photos would be an added benefit. Thanks in advance.
Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840
by MPGriffiths , Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 08:13 (2257 days ago) @ WoolTree
Richard BALL married Jane CECIL, July/August/September Qtr 1840 Pontypool, Monmouthshire
This is the 1851 census at Upper George Street, Trevethin, Ponytpool, Monmouthshire
Mary CECIL - aged 80 - Midwife & Nurse, born Caldicot, Monmouthshire
Richard BALL - aged 31 - Master Carpenter, employing no men - born Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Jane BALL - aged 29 - Laundress - born Pontypool
Mary Ann BALL - grand-daughter - 10 born Pontypool
George BALL - grandson - aged 5 - born Pontypool
George ATKINS aged 19, visitor - Under Gardener, born Somerset, Bridlington
John SHELTON, aged 22 visitor - Under Gardener, born Glos. Nympsfield
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GRO Index
Mary Ann BALL - mother's maiden name CECIL - M Qtr 1841, Pontypool
Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840
by MPGriffiths , Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 14:35 (2257 days ago) @ MPGriffiths
Found them 'at last' on 1841 Census, Ancestry
CECIL - transcribed as CEAL
BALL - transcribed as BASS
1841, Wales Census, Monmouth, Trevethan
Charles CECIL - 60 - Smith - born in County
Mary CECIL - 65
Richard BALL - 25 - Carpenter - not born in County
Jane BALL - 20 - born in County
Mary BALL - 6 months - born in County
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On a later census, Richard says he was born c1817 - and Monmouth
and the 1871 census, has his age crossed through - Family Search - gives his age as 59 = c1812
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Woolaston
There is a Richard Tamplin BALL - (base child) christened 15 March 1812 - Mother: Margaret
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As the family occupation seems to be : Carpenters
in 1839 at Woolaston,
John (occupation: Carpenter) & Elizabeth BALL - had a daughter Marina, christened
1841 Census, Glos Woolaston
BALE (on Ancestry)
John BALL - 40 - Carpenter - born in County
Elizabeth BALL - 35 - not born in County
Hannah BALL - 5
Marina BALL - 2
(married Elizabeth LEWIS, 2 July 1835 at Woolaston, witnesses, Edward BALL and Eliza LEWIS)
Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840
by WoolTree , Boston, MA, USA, Friday, September 28, 2018, 20:59 (2254 days ago) @ MPGriffiths
Thanks for the information. I have seen these names in my searches.
Without a specific birthdate and place for Richard Ball it is hard to tie the pieces together. There are a lot of Richard Balls coming up in my searches.
Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840
by MPGriffiths , Friday, September 28, 2018, 22:04 (2254 days ago) @ WoolTree
The marriage certificate should give the name of Richard's Father - unless unknown!
Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840
by WoolTree , Boston, MA, USA, Tuesday, October 02, 2018, 16:27 (2250 days ago) @ MPGriffiths
Where can I obtain a copy of this birth certificate
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 37
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840
by MPGriffiths , Tuesday, October 02, 2018, 17:34 (2250 days ago) @ WoolTree
You can order the Marriage Certificate from
General Records Office
website (can't seem to do the link)
(using for the first time - use the registration process)
Marriage September Qtr 1840
Surname (s) : Richard BALL ... Jane CECIL
District: Pontypool
Volume: 26
Page : 141
(the above information is from Freebmd)
Cost £9.25 - Can order a PDF file from them which costs £6 -
Must have all the information available
Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840
by MPGriffiths , Tuesday, October 02, 2018, 17:41 (2250 days ago) @ MPGriffiths
Looking at Freebmd
for BALL marriages in Pontypool District
from September Qtr 1837 to 1845
There is another two - not sure if related
Samuel BALL - in Dec Qtr 1839
Anne BALL - in Sept Qtr 1840
Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840
by WoolTree , Boston, MA, USA, Friday, September 28, 2018, 20:53 (2254 days ago) @ WoolTree
More Information:
Father John Ball
Mother Anne Ball
Looking for marriage date and place for John and Anne.
Richard Ball married Jane Cecil around 1840 in Pontypool, Wales.
John and Anne may have had other children;
William born circa 1831
James born circa 1833
Anne born circa 1837
George born circa 1849 (mother's name listed as "Ann" not "Anne").
C. Bryan was the officiating minister at all baptisms.
Register references: P376 IN 1/4 for William, James and Anne
Page references: 61, 66, 78,
Register references: P376 IN I/5 for Georg
Page references: 21
Thanks again.
Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840
by WoolTree , Boston, MA, USA, Thursday, October 18, 2018, 21:48 (2234 days ago) @ WoolTree
Just received a certified copy of Richard Ball and Jene Cecil's Marriage Certificate.
They were married on 11th August, 1840 at the Register Office in Pontypool, Monmouthshire. The Father's names were William Ball and Charles Cecil respectively.
I, and many others, am in a quandary as to Richard Ball's birthplace. Woolaston seems the most likely place somewhere in the 1812-1821 point in time.
Any suggestions or hints on locating his birthplace will be greatly appreciated.
Mel Ball
Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840
by MPGriffiths , Thursday, October 18, 2018, 22:08 (2234 days ago) @ WoolTree
? What was the occupation given for William BALL ...... the father of Richard
? Witness names