Hello Listers of the Forest
Having discovered that my G grandfather was born in Dudley in 1850 it has taken a long time to track his family down to the Forest of Dean. With the kind help of people like slowhands I have pieced together a possible pedigree.
If anyone can add to this, has any connections or disagrees with any of the information below please get in touch.

Brian Ellis (less bemused than I was for years)

George Ellis b. 20 Nov 1816, Newland GLS
& Jane Parkerb. 1818, Lydney GLS

| Martha Betterby Parker Ellis b. 1848, Lydney GLS
| & Henry J Butler b. 1848, Ledbury GLS
| | Clara A Parker b. 1870, Lydney GLS
| | Sarah A Butler b. 1873, Coleford GLS
| | Arthur Fred J Butler b. 1880, Arle GLS
| | Emily Faith Butler b. 1882, Lydney GLS
| | Ellen Butler b. 1884, Alvington GLS

| George John Parker Ellis b. Aug 1850, Dudley WOR
| & Elizabeth Ellen Wort b. 1860, Beaulieu Rails, Boldre, Hampshire
| m. 1882, Fulham
| | Kate Emily J Ellis b. 1883, Shepherds Bush
| | Winifred Mary Ellis b. 1885, Shepherds Bush
| | Bessie Mabel Ellis b. 1887, Shepherds bush
| | Nellie Elsie Ellis b. 1890, Shepherds Bush
| | Frederick Charles Ellis b. 30 Jul 1894,Shepherds Bush LND
| | & Ada Evelyn Saunders b. 30 Sep 1894

| Priscilla Ann Ellis b. 1852
| & William Adair b. 1839, Scotland
| m. 1876, Cardiff

| Elizabeth Jane Ellis b. 1855, Lydney GLS
| & Thomas Edmunds
| m. 1873

| Arthur Ellis b. 1857, Lydney GLS
| & Laura
| b. 1864, Lydney GLS
| | Thomas F Ellis b. 1885, Cardiff GLA
| | Laura P Ellis b. 1887, Cardiff GLA
| | Lily Kate Ellis b. 1888, Aylburton GLS
| | Arthur Ellis b. 1891, Aylburton GLS
| | Florence B Ellis b. 1893, Aylburton GLS
| | Eda Ellisb. 1895, Aylburton GLS
| | George Ellis b. 1898, Aylburton GLS
| | Elizabeth Ellis b. 1900, Aylburton GLS

| George Frederick Ellisb. 1860, Lydney GLS
& ?
| | Frederick Ellis b. 1892, Lydney GLS
| | Henry Ellis b. 1897, Lydney GLS
| | James Ellis b. 1897, Lydney GLS
| | Alena Ellis b. 1901, Lydney GLS

1901 Henry Ellis

Alma M Ellis abt 1901 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Son Lydney
Ellie A Ellis abt 1895 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lydney
Evline M L Ellis abt 1893 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lydney
Henry Ellis abt 1872 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Head Lydney
Henry J Ellis abt 1897 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Son Lydney
Margorie M Ellis abt 1900 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lydney
Rosina E Ellis abt 1874 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Lydney Monmouthshire
Gertrude M Powell abt 1881 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Sister-in-law Lydney
Joseph W Powell abt 1844 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Father-in-law Lydney

Which implies Rosina was a Powell
1n 1891
Powell, Allice abt 1878 Lydney, Gloucestershire Daughter Lydney Gloucestershire
Powell, Frederick abt 1872 Lydney, Gloucestershire Son Lydney Gloucestershire
Powell, Gertrude abt 1881 Lydney, Gloucestershire Daughter Lydney Gloucestershire
Powell, Joseph W abt 1844 Lydney, Gloucestershire Head Lydney Gloucestershire
Powell, Louola abt 1838 Brislington, Somerset Wife Lydney Gloucestershire
Powell, Martin abt 1871 Lydney, Gloucestershire Son Lydney Gloucestershire
Powell, Rosena abt 1874 Lydney, Gloucestershire Daughter Lydney Gloucestershire

» 1901 Henry Ellis

» Henry Ellis abt 1872 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Head
» Lydney
» Henry J Ellis abt 1897 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Son Lydney

Thanks again slowhands, you've opened up another line of research, I don't think that I can link up with this lot...

Henry J is the son of Thomas and Fanny (1881 Census)
Thomas is the son of James and Caroline (IGI)
James is the son of Walter and Hannah (IGI)
and Walter may be the son of William from Longhope (IGI)

Has anyone any connection who can confirm this please?

» George Ellis b. 20 Nov 1816, Newland GLS
» & Jane Parkerb. 1818, Lydney GLS

George Ellis b. 20 Nov 1816 c. 12 Dec 1824 Newland.
Thomas Ellis b. 19 Aug 1821 c. 12 Dec 1824 Newland.
Eliza Ellis b. ? c. 12 Dec 1824 Newland.
This may be a sibling too:
John Ellis c. 15 Aug 1813 Coleford, Newland.
Parents for all these children: William and Mary Ellis.
William Ellis m. 30 May 1812 Newland to Mary Jenkins.
Possible info for William and Mary:
William Ellis c. 2 Jul 1786 Newland P= Edward Ellis and Margaret.
Mary Jenkins c. 25 Sep 1791 St. Briavels P= William Jenkins and Mary.
There are siblings for both this William Ellis and Mary Jenkins if you would like them.

Joanne.

» George Ellis b. 20 Nov 1816, Newland GLS
» & Jane Parkerb. 1818, Lydney GLS

Jane Parker c. 15 Feb 1818 Lydney.
Jas Parker c. 28 Jan 1810 Lydney.
Ann Parker c. 5 Apr 1812 Lydney.
Elizabeth Parker c. 26 Jun 1814 Lydney.
Priscilla Parker c. 10 Mar 1816 Lydney.
Fanny Parker c. 2 Apr 1820 Lydney.
Rebecca Parker c. 29 Feb 1824 Lydney.
Parents for these children were: John Parker and Elizabeth.
Possible marriage: John Parker m. 21 May 1809 Newland to Elizabeth Morris.
Possible info for John and Elizabeth:
John Hoskins Parker c. 8 Feb 1789 Lydney P= Rachel Parker.
Elizabeth Morris c. 16 Jun 1782 Lydney P= Thomas Morris and Elizabeth.
There are siblings for both these people if you would like them.

Joanne.

Thank you for your assistance Joanne, is this from the IGI or Parish records?
» This may be a sibling too:
» John Ellis c. 15 Aug 1813 Coleford, Newland.
Indeed he is as he is in their household in the 1841 census

» Mary Jenkins c. 25 Sep 1791 St. Briavels P= William Jenkins and Mary.

I had discovered Mary Jenkins c15 Jan 1786 in Newland d of Thomas and Sarah - is there evidence that yours is the right one? Its all a bit hit and miss without ages.

» John Hoskins Parker c. 8 Feb 1789 Lydney P= Rachel Parker.
Again I had found a death of John Parker in Lydney 1832, therefore born 1780 I have nothing to say that he is the right one though. Is there a churchyard survey of Lydney anywhere would you know?

Thanks for your help
Brian
In really chilly East Anglia

Hi Brian, the information I have given you was from the IGI. It is difficult when looking for people when they have been born in Newland. Newland is a village in it's own right, but I have discovered that it also covered a wide number of villages acting like a district I suppose. Confusing!

» Mary Jenkins c. 25 Sep 1791 St. Briavels P= William Jenkins and Mary.
»
» I had discovered Mary Jenkins c15 Jan 1786 in Newland d of Thomas and
» Sarah - is there evidence that yours is the right one? Its all a bit hit
» and miss without ages.

I found a Mary Ellis, MIL, with a John Dobbs and his family on the 1851 census for Coleford, Newland. It gave her age as 61 so I figured that the christening for 1791 could match with that person and that this info could be right with your family.

» » John Hoskins Parker c. 8 Feb 1789 Lydney P= Rachel Parker.
» Again I had found a death of John Parker in Lydney 1832, therefore born
» 1780 I have nothing to say that he is the right one though. Is there a
» churchyard survey of Lydney anywhere would you know?

I am not aware of a churchyard survey, but if there are some people that you believe to buried there, I can go take a look for you. I live in Lydney, and am only about 10 mins walk from the churchyard. I'd be happy to help if I can.

Joanne.

The Mary Ellis with John Dobbs is the right one - Eliza his wife was her daughter.
If it really is no trouble I would be very grateful for a look in the graveyard for the John Parker above. I believe William Ellis died in jul 1849 and his wife Mary's death might also be on the stone (if there is one). If there are ages then I can be certain of their births and parents. Likewise I know that my GG Grandfather George Ellis husband of Jane died in Newland and would probably have been buried in the churchyard. I think John Parker died in 1832 (wife Elizabeth nee Morris?) and if it is not pushing my luck (!) I really would like to know if there is a stone to a Charles Bath died between 1845 and 55. Really any clues would help.
Cheers
Brian
(off to garden ready for the village gardens opening next Sunday - hope the weather is better than today)