Assault on a policeman (General)
by vcatkinson 
, Monday, April 15, 2024, 12:17 (224 days ago)
There was a story in the family of my mother (Marjorie May Smith) that one of the uncles/brothers of her grandparents was one of a group that brought down a policeman by putting a rope across the road and bringing down his horse.
With family surnames of Smith, Griffith and Jones etc., it could never be proved but my sister has just found an entry in court records that has
George Jones of Hilliers Land aged 28 and 5'8" tall Farmer's son
William Smith of Hilliers Land aged 24 and 5'7" tall Wood Cutter
Elms Smith of Berry Hill aged 18 and 5'6" tall Collier
accused That on the 11th March 1856 at the Township of West Dean did unlawfully assault and beat one Richard Thompson of the County Police.
I have a 1st cousin 4x removed called Elms Smith and he was of Berry Hill but he was baptised 24 Sep 1830 at Christchurch (PR has Helmes but later census and burial in 1860 has Elms). The only other Elms Smith is his nephew who was born in 1861.
I wondered if anyone had anything further on this, I have tried newspapers and the inquests on this site without finding anything.
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10 generations in the Forest
Elms SMITH 1830-1860 Berry Hill
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, April 15, 2024, 15:44 (224 days ago) @ vcatkinson
Year: 1830
Month: Oct
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: SMITH
Child_Forenames: Helmes
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Berry Hill
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: T.R. Garnsey
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 8212
Page_Number: 14
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch
1841 Berry Hill ( Worcester Walk)
Richard Smith Male 15 1826 Gloucestershire, England
Richard Smith Male 15 1826 Gloucestershire, England
Edward Smith Male 20 1821 Gloucestershire, England
Amos Smith Male 14 1827 Gloucestershire, England
Elms Smith Male 10 1831 Gloucestershire, England
Benjamin Smith Male 5 1836 Gloucestershire, England
Susannah Smith Female 45 1796 Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Smith Female 15 1826 Gloucestershire, England
Eisabeller Smith Female 3 1838 Gloucestershire, England
1851 Berry Hill
Richard Smith Head Married Male 57 1794 Collier Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Susan Smith Wife Married Female 54 1797 - Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Richard Smith Son Widower Male 29 1822 Collier Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Smith Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1826 - Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Amos Smith Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 Collier Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Elms Smith Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Collier Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England
George Smith Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Collier Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Benjamin Smith Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Collier Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England
in 1856 Elms Smith of Berry Hill aged 18 and 5'6" tall Collier
would expect age of 26 if recorded accurately , however a variance like this is not rare
Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry
SMITH Elms 30 1860 Monmouth, Coleford 9 458
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Assault on a policeman
by beav2012 , Adelaide, South Australia, Wednesday, October 02, 2024, 22:34 (54 days ago) @ vcatkinson
The only record I can find is their conviction on the 19th March 1850 in Gloucestershire Prison Records.
Terms of imprisonment for Elmes Smith and George Jones was 21 days or pay 4l.6s.
William Smiths terms of imprisonment was 1 cal. month or pay 5l.6s.
Assault on a policeman
by MPGriffiths , Thursday, October 03, 2024, 14:29 (53 days ago) @ vcatkinson
Baptism FOD records
Tidenham
18 March 1849
Isaac Richard Thompson
father: Richard (occupation Policeman)
mother: Maryanne
Residence : Woodcroft Tidenham
GRO Index
Thompson, Isaac Richard
Mother’s maiden name: Pullen
GRO reference : 1849
M Quarter in OF CHEPSTOW
Volume 26 Page 65
Assault on a policeman
by MPGriffiths , Thursday, October 03, 2024, 18:02 (53 days ago) @ vcatkinson
Using the Advance Search for Elms SMITH as a Witness at a Wedding, there is........
At Christchurch 18 October 1855
Henry SHORT a Collier, residence; WHITEHALL
marrying
Jane BURGHAM, residence, SHORTSTANDING
witnesses:
Mark of ELMS SMITH
and Sarah COOPER
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GRO Index
SMITH, Elms - 1860 S Quarter in MONMOUTH Volume 11A Page 11
Age at death: 30
Assault on a policeman
by MPGriffiths , Thursday, October 03, 2024, 18:21 (53 days ago) @ vcatkinson
Just Googled:
Mining Accident 1860 Elms SMITH, Christchurch Gloucestershire
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Which led me to the Website, produced by the Forest of Dean Local History Society
Headed:
MINERS MEMORIAL PROJECT - Facilities in Coal Mines
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SMITH Elms - 4 September 1860
aged, 30, Collier
Mine: Buckholt Level
Fall of strong top called 'beef' on the 4th.
Died 7th. and buried 9th without notice either to Home Office, inspector, coroner or police.