JAMES, JONES, ELWAY, WATTS and RICHARDS

Hi, I am researching the following families, would love to hear from anyone.
James, Tidenham, Awre, Pillowell
Jones, Pillowell, Viney Hill
Elway/Ellway, Pillowell, Viney Hill
Watts, Coleford, Pillowell, Viney Hill
Richards Bream
Best wishes to you all and good luck with your researching. Kathy

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Hi Kathy i`m researching JONES in the forest West and East Dean James born 1841c in Lydbrook, Ann JONES (maiden name as well) bornc1847 Lane End Henry JONES bornc1837 and his daughter Jane born c1857 Sylvia

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Hi
I am interested in JAMES from Pillowell and have JOHN & SARAH JAMES in Pillowell on the 1861 census onwards.

I am desperately seeking the marriage of John JAMES to Sarah DAVIS prior to 1857 (first child baptised 1857).

My GGrandmother, Caroline JAMES was bn 1864, Pillowell, parents John JAMES and Sarah DAVIS.
I have plenty of info on this family 1861 and later, but nothing definite pre 1861.

Any connections???

Best wishes
Angela Gibson
Sydney, Australia

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http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=2563#p2582

seems to be a related Thread thats opened up...

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Possible census entries to consider...

1841 Pillowell HO107 /364 / 13 folio 11
John JENKINS 35 Shoe maker
Charlotte 40
William (?) JAMES 15 Coal
John {JAMES} 12
Henry JENKINS 10
Eliza 8
Frederick (?) 1
John JAMES 30 Coal Miner
All born in county

1851 Pillowell
John James abt 1823 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Visitor West Dean Gloucestershire

1861 Pillowell
John James abt 1828 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah James abt 1832 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Charlotte James abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Florence James abt 1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah James abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire

1871
John James abt 1828 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah James abt 1831 Pillowell, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Marlothe James abt 1860 Pillowell, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Charline James abt 1865 Pillowell, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Charlotte James abt 1870 Pillowell, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Elizabeth James abt 1867 Pillowell, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Florance James abt 1858 Pillowell, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Fredrick James abt 1869 Pillowell, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah James abt 1860 Pillowell, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire

1881
John James abt 1828 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah James abt 1830 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Alice James abt 1872 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Elizabeth James abt 1867 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Elmily James abt 1878 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Fred James abt 1869 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Mary James abt 1875 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire

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Hi again, just took a quick look, lots of names I recognise, Ann Beech William Elway and Watts are mine. thanks everyone, I will start going through my trees straight away

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HO 107 / 364 / 13 Folio 7 Yorkley

William Elway 20 Coal M
Harriet 20
Emily (?) 1
all born in county

HO 107 / 364 / 13 Folio 11 Pillowell

John Elway 25
Elizabeth 20
not known male 2 weeks
all born in county

HO 107 / 364 / 13 Folio 12 Pillowell

Ann Elway 12 Servant born in county
(household of Henry and Ann Price)

HO 107 / 364 / 13 Folio 12 Pillowell

James Elway 60
Ann 65 Ag Lab
Mary 25
all born in county

HO 107 / 364 / 13 Folio 12 Pillowell

William Elway 40 Coal M
Sarah 50
Ann 80
Eliza 12
Sarah 9
Caroline Young 4
all born in county

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Any connection to William Watts in Newnham c1820+, or Alway? at Arams Farm in Ruddle near Newnham in 1881.

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» Any connection to William Watts in Newnham c1820+,
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Hello Russell, Saw your message and thought it was worth a chance. I am researching the Watts family who lived in Whitecliff during the 1800s.
My great grandmother, Lucy Watts, born about 1855, to John Watts and Eliza Morgan, married William White who died about 1882, and then married Enoch Drew and they emigrated to Australia in 1884. Lucy's father was John Watts and his father was also John Watts. They were both potters and operated the Pottery at Whitecliff from the early 1800s up to about 1890. Lucy was the 8th child in a family of 9. The Pottery stood quite close to the Nags Head Inn. I have found a William Watts in the 1851 Census, 38, Newland, wife Sarah 35, Daughters Anna 4 and Sarah 2. I think he may be a brother to John Watts junior (above) but I haven't as yet been able to confirm that.
I'm hoping we might be looking for the same Watts.
Regards Carmel.

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Hi Carmel,
My interest relates to Eliza Caroline Watts (1843-1915) whose birthplace in NZ is listed as "Chapmans" ,
Wiltshire. This has posed some difficulty for me as my William Watts family was more closely connected to Newnham, Glos where her father William and mother Charlotte were living. The 1851 census mentions an Eliza born Bromsgrove, Worcestershire in 1843 as a niece. There is an Eliza B Newnham 1844 in the 1861 census, which is more likely for me however Eliza emigrated to New Zealand in 1863 and married shortly after to a Frederick Thorne from Newnham.
I have no knowledge of siblings either in UK or NZ. I have tended to work on the Newnham area particularily as that is where my Thorne connections lie.
Hope this contributes to the search,
Russell Thorne
New Zealand

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» Hi Carmel,
» My interest relates to Eliza Caroline Watts (1843-1915) whose birthplace
» in NZ is listed as "Chapmans" ,
» Wiltshire. This has posed some difficulty

Could this be Chapmanslde near Westbury Wiltshire ?

1861
Charles Watts abt 1844 Chapmanslade, Wiltshire, England Son Of Wife Frome Somerset
Harriett Watts abt 1842 Chapmanslade, Somerset, England Servant Bathwick Somerset
Maria Watts abt 1842 Chapmanslade, Wiltshire, England Servant Rodden Somerset
Sarah Watts abt 1845 Chapmanslade, Wiltshire, England Servant Corsley Wiltshire

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Corsley , Wilts is the nearest village to Chapmanslade ( occasionally seen as Chapman Lade) that appears frequently in Census records
.

IGI has (member submitted treat with care !)

Elizabeth Grace WATTS
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Event(s):
Birth: 21 JUN 1843 Chapmans, , Wiltshire, England

Christening:
Death: 07 SEP 1915
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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available.
Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

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The 1851 census mentions an
» Eliza born Bromsgrove, Worcestershire in 1843 as a niece. There is an
» Eliza B Newnham 1844 in the 1861 census, which is more likely for me
»

This looks like Eliza later in 1861 and 71` so can probably rule her out of the search

1861 Eliza Watts abt 1844 Bromsgroves, Worcestershire, England Servant Bradford Yorkshire

1871
Eliza Watts abt 1844 Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England Daughter Wolverhampton Staffordshire
George Watts abt 1815 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire
James Watts abt 1854 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire
James Henry Watts abt 1869 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Grandson Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Mary Watts abt 1813 Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England Wife Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Wm Henry Watts abt 1847 Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire

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» Any connection to William Watts in Newnham c1820+,

William Watts 120 is descended from William Watts , Popes Hill 1785

1851
WATTS William 33 Waterman Newnham
Charlotte 38 Newnham
George Brother 36 Newnham
Mary Sister in Law 38 Bromsgrove Worcestershire
Eliza 7 Niece Bromsgrove
William Henry Nephew 4 Bromsgrove

WATTS William 66 Labourer East Dean
Mary 64 Notgrove
Sally 20 Newnham

1861
Charlotte Watts abt 1812 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newnham Gloucestershire
William Watts Junr abt 1818 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Head Newnham Gloucestershire

Eliza Watts abt 1844 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Newnham Gloucestershire
Mary Watts abt 1787 Notgrove, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newnham Gloucestershire
William Watts abt 1785 Hopes Hill, Gloucestershire, England Head Newnham Gloucestershire

1871
Charlotte Watts abt 1811 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newnham Gloucestershire
William Watts abt 1818 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Head Newnham Gloucestershire

1881
Caroline Watts abt 1838 Cornwall, England Wife Sailors Sq, Newnham, Gloucestershire, England
William Watts abt 1818 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Head Sailors Sq, Newnham, Gloucestershire, England

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Hi Kathy, just noticed your post and decided to connect just in case. :-)

Here are a few of my James family to consider in your search, please let me know if they happen to fit with your research ..

Jim Patterson
Western Canada..

1. WILLIAM1 JAMES1 was born Abt. 1826 in West Dean Gloucestershire.

Children of WILLIAM JAMES are:
ISAAC JONES2 JAMES, b. Abt. 1852, Bream\\Newland, Glos.
JAMES I JAMES, b. Abt. 1854, Newland,.
ELIZABETH JAMES, b. Abt. 1861, Newland.

Generation No. 2

2. ISAAC JONES2 JAMES (WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1852 in Bream\\Newland, Glos. He married MATILDA ALBERTA JAMES2 Abt. Jun 1871 in Glos, daughter of JOSEPH JAMES and HARRIET. She was born Abt. 1854 in Bream\\Newland, Glos.

Children of ISAAC JAMES and MATILDA JAMES are:
TOM J3 JAMES, b. Abt. 1872, Bream\\Newland, Glos.
WILLIAM CHARLES JAMES, b. Abt. 1874, Bream\\Newland, Glos.
HENRY J JAMES, b. Abt. 1876, Bream\\Newland, Glos.
HERBERT J JAMES, b. Abt. 1878, Bream\\Newland, Glos.
MARY ANNIE JAMES, b. Abt. 1880, Bream\\Newland, Glos; d. Abt. Sep 1905, Died at 25, Granny George took on her kids.
BESSIE JAMES, b. Abt. 1882, Bream\\Newland, Glos.
LILY JAMES, b. Abt. 1884, Bream\\Newland, Glos.
HOREY JAMES, b. Abt. 1886, Bream\\Newland, Glos.
EDWIN JAMES, b. Abt. 1887, Bream\\Newland, Glos.

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ª
ª Richards Bream
ª Best wishes to you all and good luck with your researching. Kathy
Dear Kathy.
I have a sarah teague(1844)who married ?.Their children were francis sarah 1865,william richards 1868,henry george richards 1871 and hubert henry 1874-all born in bream.Could their father be a richards!He maybe has a sister called elizabeth who married george gilbert.
Rachel.

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his father was also Called William Richards Teague,he was my GG Grandfather,but ive never been able to find out who his parents were,but you are right on the children there was my Great Grandfather William Richards Teague b1868 d 31 aug 1948 in bream and he had as far as i can find out 3 proper siblings and 3 half siblings.Francis Sarah b 1866-1899 Henry George Richards Teague known as Edwin Henry Teague b1871-d 1892,and Hubert b1874-d1892,and his 3 Half siblings were Nellie Teague b 1882,Robert Charles Teague b1884-d1971 and Maggie Teague who was born and died in 1888,there father was a man called Robert Croak b 1850. Sarahs parents were called Edward Teague b1810-d1885 and Sarah Beach/Beech b1820-d1845.It was her sister Eliza Beech b1817-d1895 that married George Gilbert b abt 1831 but he was not her first husband she had been married to a Henry Creese b1814 hope that helps.

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also Called William Richards Teague,he was my GG Grandfather,but ive never been able to find out who his parents were,

1841 Berry Hill
Edward Tanger abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Edward Teague abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest,
Thomas Tingue abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Tingue abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
George Tingue abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Year: 1844
Month: Mar
Day: 17
Parents_Surname: TEAGUE
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: Edward
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Berry Hill
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: T.R. Garnsey
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 8212
Page_Number: 86
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch

1851
Edward Teague abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Teague abt 1820 Short Standing, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
George Teague abt 1834 Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Teague abt 1838 Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Teague abt 1816 Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire

1851 Bream
Ann Beach 60
Richard Beach 17
Mary A Beach 15
Sarah Teague 7 Edward Teague 6

1861
Edward Teague abt 1811 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Teague abt 1801 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Teague abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Edward Teague abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Teague abt 1821 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Brother West Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: William Richards Teague
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 25

Year: 1868
Month: Jun
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: TEAGUE
Child_Forenames: William Richards
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bream
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: Basil A. Galland Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [1] p[rivate]. [2] Sponsors Thos[?] Vaughan [illegible] Beach Eliza Beach
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 73
Parish_Chapel: Bream

1871
Geo Gilbert 45
Eliza Gilbert 50
Sarah Teague 27
Frances Teague 5
Wm Teague 3
Edwin H Teague 3 months

1881
George Gilbert abt 1831 Much Birch, Hereford, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Eliza Gilbert abt 1817 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Sarah Teague abt 1855 Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Niece Newland, Gloucestershire
Henry Teague abt 1865 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Newland, Gloucestershire
Frances Teague abt 1866 Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Niece Newland, Gloucestershire
Bess Teague abt 1867 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Newland, Gloucestershire
William Teague abt 1869 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Nephew Newland, Gloucestershire
Henry Teague abt 1871 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Nephew Newland, Gloucestershire
Hubert Teague abt 1874 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Nephew Newland, Gloucestershire

1891
Eliza Gilbert abt 1816 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jane Teague abt 1867 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Newland, Gloucestershire
William Teague abt 1869 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Nephew Newland, Gloucestershire
Henry Chas Teague abt 1889 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Great-Grandson Newland, Gloucestershire
Bessie Teague abt 1890 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Great-Granddaughter Newland, Gloucestershire

1901
William Teague abt 1868 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Teague abt 1867 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Monmouthshire
Ethel Teague abt 1894 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Henry Teague abt 1899 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Bertram Teague abt 1900 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Thomas Teague abt 1872 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Brother West Dean, Monmouthshire

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Thankyou for the time you put into finding all that information,it will be a great help in researching my family tree,it sometimes confuses the issue when both my great great were called Teague anyways thanks Angela.

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Hi all, Sorry I have not answered before now, been very busy with family, I have a very large tree of the James, Jones, Elway\/Ellway, Watts, Richards, and will be pleased to share with new family, I have been researching this family for over 20years, I will will read all notes on this family tonight. \please let me know if any one wants to get in touch
Best wishes

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