1901 Mill Hill Bream
John Elloway Head Married Male 56 1845 Blacksmith Alvington, Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Elloway Wife Married Female 54 1847 - Gloucestershire, England
Frederick Elloway Son Single Male 26 1875 Coal hewer Bream, Gloucestershire, England
William H Elloway Son Single Male 23 1878 Coal hewer Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Alma Elloway Daughter Single Female 28 1873 Domestic Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Matilda Elloway Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Harriett James Mother-in-law Widow Female 83 1818 - Blakeney, Gloucestershire, England
Elsie Elloway Grand daughter - Female 12 1889 Scholar Bream, Gloucestershire, England

Deaths Dec 1975 (>99%)
WILLIAMS ELSIE ANNE 30MR1888 ROSS 29 672

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Williams Alfred J Ellaway Monmouth 11a 32

1921Nr Church, Bream, Newland, Gloucestershire
Head Frederick James Williams Circa 1892
Wife Elsie Annie Williams Circa 1889
Son Arthur Edward Williams Circa 1909
Son John William Williams Circa 1913
Daughter Elsie Annie Williams Circa 1916
Son Alfred James Williams Circa 1920

1939 Rosemene, Lower Meone, Brockweir
Frederick J Williams 06 Jun 1892 Male General Labourer Married
Elsie A Williams (Davies) 15 Oct ? Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Wyndham F Williams 09 Mar 1921 Male Van Driver Of Grocery And General Store Single
The record for this person is officially closed. Bernard ?
The record for this person is officially closed. Edith ?

Deaths Mar 1974 (>99%)
Williams Alfred James 25SE1919 Ross 9a 247

Year: 1844
Month: Oct
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: RUCK
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: Full Age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miner
Grooms_Residence: Township of East Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Ruck
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Brides_Surname: NIBLETT
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age: Full Age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Township of East Dean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Niblett
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Thomas Cox
Witness_2: Mark of Jane Cox
Other_Witnesses: William Hale
Officiating_Minister: William Crawley
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 48
Parish_Chapel: Flaxley

1851 Watery Lane End, Westbury on Severn
John Rock Head Married Male 28 1823 Coal miner East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Rock Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
Timothy Rock Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
Jane Rock Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
James Rock Son - Male 4 1847 Scholar East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Rock Son - Male 2 1849 Scholar East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Maria Rock Daughter - Female 0 1851 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1861 Huntly East dean
John Ruck Head Married Male 38 1823 Coal... Gloucestershire, England
Ann Ruck Wife - Female 41 1820 - Gloucestershire, England
Jane Ruck Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1845 - Gloucestershire, England
James Ruck Son - Male 15 1846 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Ruck Son - Male 12 1849 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Miah Ruck Daughter - Female 10 1851 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
John Ruck Son - Male 7 1854 - Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England
George Ruck Son - Male 5 1856 - Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Ruck Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England

The 1871 James Ruck who married Frances Jones is my 3x Great Granduncle. His parents were John Ruck and Susannah Clifton. My 4x Great Grandparents. His sister Letitia married Edmund Fletcher, my 3x Great Grandparents. Harriet is their daughter.

James Ruck who married Harriet Worgan (nee Fetcher) parents I believe were John Ruck & Hannah Niblett.
Hannah Fetcher is my 2x Great Grandaunt. I have not found this James in 1871.

Hope this makes sense.

Hannah C is not shown as step daughter to head of household in the 81/91 census data

or with "father" James in 1871

1871 Pillowell
James Ruck Head - Male 35 1836 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Frances Ruck Wife - Female 27 1844 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Ann Ruck Daughter - Female 6 1865 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
George Ruck Son - Male 3 1868 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Jim Ruck Son - Male 0 1871 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Register Entry
RUCK James JONES Frances 1864 2 61

an avenue that might require further investigation is

Births Mar 1868 (>99%)
James Hannah Cecilia Chepstow 11a 17

who is missing in 1881/91 censuses - but how a Wharf workers daughter from Lydney morphs into Hannah C Ruck is beyond me at the momnet

She appears in the 1881/1891 census records as the daughter of Harriet (nee Fletcher) and James Ruck.

My problem is I cannot find her birth or any records after 1891.

I don't believe she is Harriets daughter as she doesn't appear in the 1871 census. Also, Harriet was married to George Worgan at this time and he died in 1875.

I do not know if James was married before as I cannot find him in the 1871 census records, and I can only see the civil registration for his marriage to Harriet

See previous threads: https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=31625

Many thanks

Alfred was lost to the family in the Forest, probably
because he worked on the railway out of Swindon.

I did look for William Saunders in Gloucester Pubs, but I only looked at the Rising Sun. So obviously didn't find him. So, thanks for finding this.

I've never heard of St Annals Lodge. Is it still there, as I can't seem to find it on maps?

Here you go

1881 Cinderford Road, St Johns Cinderford,
Elijah B Rickards Head Married Male 30 1851 Coalminer Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Martha Rickards Wife Married Female 26 1855 - Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England
George Rickards Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Pillowell, Gloucestershire, England
Harriet Rickards Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Rickards Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Rickards Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - York, Yorkshire, England

1871 Lydney
William Saunders Head - Male 37 1834 Butcher & inn keeper Lydney, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Saunders Wife - Female 36 1835 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England
Children ****
Martha Fletcher Servant - Female 16 1855 General serv Whitecraft, Gloucestershire, England

Which is The Bridge Inn in Lydney :-)

https://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/pubs/bridge-inn-newerne-street-lydney/

Hi Mary
my instinct says that the building in the back of the photograph (on Page 4 of Cinderford 2) ( hazy ) is not the Rising Sun

The location is possibly the rear of Cinderford Registry Office ( or a Council Office).
Today that would be on Belle Vue Rd, so possibly with St Annals Lodge in the distance ?

Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Register Entry
RICKARDS George Barnard HUNT Anne Elizabeth 1898 11 121

1901 10, Stoney Lane Trenville Avenue, Sparkhill, Yardley (Worcs), Solihull,
George Rickards Head Married Male 28 1873 Sewing machine agent West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Ann E Rickards Wife Married Female 29 1872 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1911Commercial St Cinderford
George Rickards Head Married Male 38 1873 Collector salesman ( Sewing Machines) West Dean Glosshire
Bessie Rickards Wife Married Female 39 1872 - East Dean Glosshire
Ernest Rickards Son - Male 8 1903 - Birmingham
Stella Rickards Daughter - Female 6 1905 - Cinderford Gloshire
Mary Brain Aunt Widow Female 81 1830 Private means Mitcheldean Gloshire

Name George Barnard Rickards
Residence Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
Address 8A Ruspidge Road
Death July 18 1933
Probate July 29 1933
Gloucester, Gloucestershire

I wonder if anyone can identify the building behind George Rickards in his wedding photograph. Found in Cinderford 2.

My Nan said my g.g grandmother Martha Rickards (nee Fletcher) used to live in the now empty and sadly derelict building in Moseley Green. I was wondering if the building behind is 'The Rising Sun'? She was also working for a William Saunders in the 1871 census. His occupation was that of butcher and Innkeeper. Again, was this the Rising Sun?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

William Ellway Head Married Male 38 1853 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Susan Ellway Wife Married Female 42 1849 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
James Ellway Son Single Male 19 1872 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
William Ellway Son Single Male 15 1876 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Edward Ellway Son - Male 13 1878 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Mary J Ellway Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Albert Ellway Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Grantley Ellway Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Howard Ellway Son - Male 1 1890 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Beatrice A Ellway Daughter - Female 0 1891 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

Lodger Frederick Perry Circa 1853
Lodger William Penny Circa 1860
Lodger William Church Circa 1867
Lodger Kathleen Church Circa 1869 born Wales
Lodger Edgar Davies Circa 1873

Name: William Church
Death Age: 66
Birth Date: abt 1865
Registration Date: Apr. 1931
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Gloucester
Inferred County Gloucestershire
Volume:6a
Page:339

Name: Kate Church
Death Age: 60
Birth Date: abt 1877
Registration Date: Jan. 1937
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Gloucester
Inferred County Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page:468

CHURCH, KATE:60
GRO Reference: 1937 M Quarter in GLOUCESTER Volume 06A Page 468
CHURCH, KATHLEEN:57
GRO Reference: 1937 M Quarter in DOVER Volume 02A Page 1999