Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Jemima LOWE !

Jemima LOWE ! (reply)

Paul Andrews — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:54:28 +0000

1851 England Census HO107/1959; Folio: 340; Page: 15
Blakeney, Woodside

Richard Lowe - Head - Widr - 80 - Agr Lab - Glorshire, East Dean
Joseph Lowe - Son - Mar - 34 - Coal Miner - Glorshire, East Dean
Elizabeth Lowe - Daur Law - Mar - 25 - Glorshire, East Dean
Keziah Lowe - Grand Daur - 5 - Glorshire, East Dean
Joseph Lowe - Grand Son - 1 - Glorshire, East Dean

NBI
Burial Date: 12 Mar 1853
Name: Richard Lowe
Age: 82
County: Gloucestershire
Place: Awre
Details: St Andrew
Document Source: Parish Register

NBI
Burial Date: 18 April 1849
Name: Elizabeth Lowe
Age: 78
County: Gloucestershire
Place: Awre
Details: St Andrew
Source Document: Parish Register

Children of Richard Low(e) and Elizabeth Francis:-
Elizabeth Lowe 17/12/1799
Eliza Lowe 24/06/1801
Richard Lowe 27/03/1803
William Lowe 27/08/1804
Rebecca Lowe 30/08/1806
Keziah Lowe 13/12/1807
Mary Lowe 07/02/1810
Jemima Lowe 02/06/1811
Joseph Lowe 1813 Died 1814
Joseph Lowe 1816

Yorkshire link - Edwin POLLARD 1878 (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:23:35 +0000

looks like his father Edwin, a miner, when to Yorkshire , I'm guessing he died there ( or stayed a while) , and wife and children returned to the Forest ( Elizabeth is showing as Married in 1881 ...

Name: Edwin Pollard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Year of Registration: 1917
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 65
District: Halifax
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9a
Page: 584

Yorkshire link - Edwin POLLARD 1878 (reply)

Jean Herbert — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:15:26 +0000

Thank you again Slowhands for finding the previous link ie: Edwin Pollard 1878
It is unusual in the fact that the migration is from Yorkshire to FOD, usually the other way round. Featherstone is, or was a large mining community before the pit closures. So many Foresters arrived in the area they outnumbered the natives. Regards Jean Herbert (the Northerner)

Yorkshire link - Edwin POLLARD 1878 (reply)

ChrisW — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:14:01 +0000

Oh no! Not another one!

I was quite happy with my Forest/Shropshire/Wales/London & Kent heritage thankyou. Still I suppose I shouldn't be churlish after such a warm welcome to the family!

Chris (the Southerner)

Yorkshire link - Edwin POLLARD 1878 (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:53:34 +0000

...and the POLLARD link too

1871 Blakeney Hill
Ann Pollard 61 Cirencester
Edwin Pollard 21 Stratton

Year: 1874
Month: Feb
Day: 14

Groom Surname: POLLARD
Groom Forenames: Edwin
Groom Age at Marriage: 23
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Miner
Groom Residence: Viney Hill
Groom Father's Surname: POLLARD
Groom Father's Forenames: Thomas
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Miller

Bride Surname: POWELL
Bride Forenames: Elizabeth
Bride Age at Marriage: 19
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession: [not stated]
Bride Residence: Lydney
Bride Father's Surname: POWELL
Bride Father's Forenames: James
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Haulier
Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns: [not stated]
Signature or Mark: Both sign
Witness 1: William Turley
Witness 2: Martha Morse
Other witnesses: Ellen Turley
Officiating Minister: John J Trollope
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P209 IN 1/16
Page No: 20
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

1881 Albion Inn
Elizabeth Pollard abt 1855 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Edwin Pollard abt 1878 South Featherstone, Yorkshire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Pollard abt 1875 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1891 The Purlieu
George Morse abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Lydney, Gloucestershire Farmer
Martha Morse abt 1853 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Lydney, Gloucestershire
Emily Morse abt 1875 West Dean Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire
Fanny Morse abt 1873 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire
Hannah Morse abt 1877 West Dean Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire
Julia Morse abt 1880 West Dean Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire
Mary Morse abt 1886 West Dean Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire
Edwin Pollard abt 1878 Featherstone, Yorkshire, England Nephew Lydney, Gloucestershire
Thomas Pollard abt 1875 West Dean Nephew Lydney, Gloucestershire

1901
Edwin Pollard abt 1877 Featherstone, Yorkshire, England Boarder Shirehampton, Gloucestershire

Jemima LOWE b 1811 at Awre (reply)

Jean Herbert — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:28:32 +0000

We,of the Yorkshire branch of the illustrious Herbert family are pleased to welcome a newly found relation, this being ChrisW. It is so nice to have another branch added to our tree, even though the new addition is only a minor one. Welcome cousin, and thanks as usual to Slowhands for finding the link. From Jean Herbert

Jemima LOWE b 1811 at Awre (reply)

ChrisW — Sat, 31 May 2008 12:50:45 +0000

Record_ID: 173638
Entry Number: 0
Year: 1811
Month: Jun
Day: 23
Parents Surname: LOWE
Child Forenames: Jemima
Father's Forenames: Richard
Mother's Forenames: Elizabeth
Mother's Surname: [nee](Francis Sp[inste]r)
Place of Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating Minister: Charles Sandiford Vicar
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: [1]D[aughter] [2]b[or]n June 2
Notes: Blakeney Chapel
Register Reference: P30 1 IN 1 Part 2
Page No: 576
Parish_Chapel: Awre
Soundex: L000

Jemima LOWE ! (reply)

ChrisW — Sat, 31 May 2008 12:19:57 +0000

No I know it wasn't you! You've also solved the mystery of the George 1843 that I've had floating about. Just found this one as well now. Looks like more Lowe involvement!

Record_ID: 1279
Entry Number: 211
Year: 1870
Month: Dec
Day: 31
Groom Surname: LOWE
Groom Forenames: David
Groom Age at Marriage: full age
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Miner
Groom Residence: East Dean
Groom Father's Surname: Lowe
Groom Father's Forenames: William
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Miner
Bride Surname: MORSE
Bride Forenames: Fanny
Bride Age at Marriage: full age
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: East Dean
Bride Father's Surname: Morse
Bride Father's Forenames: William
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Shoemaker
Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both Sign
Witness 1: William
Witness 2: Emma Morse
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Geo. A. Allan Curate
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P30 IN 1/6
Page No: 106
Parish_Chapel: Awre
Soundex Groom: L000
Soundex Bride: M620

Jemima LOWE ! (in 1841 prior to marriage) (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 31 May 2008 12:02:34 +0000

"it wasn't me"

Name: William Morse
Name: Jemima Lowe
Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 83

1841
Richard Lowe abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Lowe abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Jemima Lowe abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Joseph Lowe abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

looks reasonable for parents marriage

Year: 1797
Month: Feb
Day: 13

Groom Surname: LOW
Groom Forenames: Richard
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition:
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Newland
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:

Bride Surname: FRANCES
Bride Forenames: Elizabeth
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition:
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Newland
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:

Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: He signs she marks
Witness 1: Mark of John Adams
Witness 2: Thomas Bond
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Thos Thomas curate
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/9
Page No: 876
Parish_Chapel: Newland

Alfred MORSE c 1845 s/o William and Jemima (?) (reply)

ChrisW — Sat, 31 May 2008 11:55:41 +0000

Oh Lordy what have you done?!

That would explain why I haven't been able to find any children for William & Johanna. William was the son of George c1773 and therefore Alfred is indeed mine. Who was this Thomas Herbert? They get in everywhere!

Thanks
Chris

Alfred MORSE c 1845 s/o William and Jemima (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 31 May 2008 11:43:57 +0000

1861
William Morse abt 1816 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jemima Morse abt 1815 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alfred Morse abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Fanney Morse abt 1848 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Eno Morse abt 1844 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

< living near LOWE family>

1851
William Morse abt 1817 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Jamima Morse abt 1816 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Alfred Morse abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Fanny Morse abt 1848 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
George Morse abt 1844 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1841
Month: Jul
Day: 10

Groom Surname: MORSE
Groom Forenames: William
Groom Age at Marriage: of full age
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Cordwainer
Groom Residence: Viney Hill
Groom Father's Surname: Morse
Groom Father's Forenames: George
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Labourer

Bride Surname: LOWE
Bride Forenames: Johanna
Bride Age at Marriage: of full age
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession: none stated
Bride Residence: Viney Hill
Bride Father's Surname: Lowe
Bride Father's Forenames: Richard
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Labourer

Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both sign
Witness 1: Thomas Herbert
Witness 2: Eliza Morse
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: H W Sheppard Curate
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/12
Page No: 105
Parish_Chapel: Newland

1841 Viney Hill
George Morse abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Ann Morse abt 1786 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
William Morse abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Alfred Morse b 1844

ChrisW — Sat, 31 May 2008 11:13:20 +0000

"Leesen carefully; I will only say zis once!"

I think Alfred is one of my lot. This is a bit worrying because it means I am connected to Jean Herbert!

The marriage:

Record_ID: 2921
Entry Number: 57
Year: 1869
Month: Sep
Day: 7
Groom Surname: MORSE
Groom Forenames: Alfred
Groom Age at Marriage: 24
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Mason
Groom Residence: East Dean
Groom Father's Surname: Morse
Groom Father's Forenames: William
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Shoemaker
Bride Surname: HERBERT
Bride Forenames: Emma
Bride Age at Marriage: 19
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession: [not stated]
Bride Residence: East Dean
Bride Father's Surname: Herbert
Bride Father's Forenames: Thomas
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Miller & Baker
Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both sign
Witness 1: George A. Herbert
Witness 2: Fanny Morse
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Newton Codner Bennett
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P85/1 IN 1/5
Page No: 29
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns
Soundex Groom: M620
Soundex Bride: H616

Jean told me that an elderly Harriet Clarke c 1788 was living with the couple on one census (don't ask me which one). I think Harriet was a sister of Ann Clarke c 1783, who was my ggg grandmother. Ann married George Morse c 1810.

Both families were from the Awre/Blakeney area. So can someone please work out how Alfie is connected to me? I can't find a baptism, but that's probably because the family were non conformists. Actually, that's probably where I get it from!

Thank you
Chris