Forest of Dean FHT Forum - WILLIAMS, William and Eliza

WILLIAMS, William and Eliza (reply)

seallen3 — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:36:13 +0000

I have also been researching this family - my brother in law's. He is descended from William and Eliza's first son Milson. In the 1851 census I think he is living with his grandparents, John Williams and Mary at Five Acres (a second marriage for both of them I think.) Milson married a Lydia Roberts March 20th 1872 in the Independent Chapel Coleford. They had 2 daughters and my brother in law is descended from the second daughter Elizabeth. Tragically, her father died in a mining accident before she was born. Her mother remarried.

Now the question which is puzzling me is what is the maiden name of William Williams's wife Eliza? I had decided that it was Eliza Knight who was living with her parents at Berry Hill in the 1841 census. A marriage between a William Williams and Eliza Knight was registered at Monmouth (where Milson's birth was registered) in Jan Feb or March 1848 Vol 26 page 97. Eliza Knight's baptism was recorded at Christchurch Dec 11th 1825, parents William and Sarah. They were living at Five Acres which Eliza gives as her place of birth in the 1851 census.

The Elizabeth Jones who has also been suggested as the wife of William Williams is also a strong possibility. Was William Williams living with his mother-in-law Mary Jones in the 1851 census?

It all needs more investigation to establish who is the wife of William Williams.

William WILLIAMS 1826 English Bicknor (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:19:51 +0000

Year: 1826
Month: May
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: WILLIAMS
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Stirts-Farm
Occupation: Farmer
Officiating_Minister: T Marwood Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P138 in 1/5
Page_Number: 36
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

Eliza JONES 1827 - Five Acres environs (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:10:45 +0000

Year: 1827
Month: Nov
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Eliza
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest
Occupation: Coalminer
Officiating_Minister: H R Revell Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 73
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

William WILLIAMS 1827 and Eliza 1826 - Five Acres environs (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:46:24 +0000

I wonder if this is the marriage ?

Name: Elizabeth Jones
Name: William Williams
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 26
Page: 385

Year: 1849
Month: May
Day: 20
Parents_Surname: WILLIAMS
Child_Forenames: Milsom
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Eliza
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Berry Hill
Occupation: Boiler Maker
Officiating_Minister: J. Banks M.A. Perp[etual] Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC82 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 22
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch

1851 Buck Lane
Mary Jones abt 1791 English Bicknor, Lancashire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
William William abt 1828 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Newland, Gloucestershire Boiler maker
Eliza William abt 1827 Five Acres, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Newland, Gloucestershire
William William abt 1849 Five Acres, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Newland, Gloucestershire

Year: 1851
Month: Dec
Day: 5
Parents_Surname: WILLIAMS
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Eliza
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Five Acres
Occupation: Blacksmith
Officiating_Minister: Tho. O. Tudor B.A. Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC82 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 38
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch

1861 Tomblins Ditch
William Williams abt 1827 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire Deaf
Eliza Williams abt 1826 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriet Williams abt 1856 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry Williams abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Williams abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Milson Williams abt 1848 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Williams abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
William Williams 44
Eliza Williams 45
Harriet Williams 15
Henry Williams 13
John Williams 12
Timothy Williams 5
William Williams 21

1881
William Williams abt 1827 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Timothy Williams abt 1866 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

WILLIAMS, William and Eliza

Sue C — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:59:00 +0000

I am trying to trace the marriage of William williams and Eliza ? which could be around 1850.By the 1861 census they had children William, Harriet, Henry and John. There is also another "son" aged 13 but having searched for him on the parish records he has different parents. Wm williams was recorded as a blacksmith on this census and subsequent ones apart fom the 1871 census where he is alled a collier, so presume he was some sort of metal worker attached to a mine.They lived around the Coleford area, Lane End. William was born around 1826 and Eliza around 1825.Any other info on this family would be very helpful too.
From Sue C