Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Ancestors of Elizabeth Hawker

Ancestors of Elizabeth Hawker (reply)

plumes — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:16:45 +0000

A bit late in the day I know Ian, as I have not been monitoring the Forum lately, but I could not resist working out our relationship - according to the Wikipedia Cousins Chart we are 5th cousins once removed.
Moira

Ancestors of Elizabeth Hawker (reply)

Ian Jackson — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:55:43 +0000

Plumes;
Thanks for that, it all seems to fit and to confirm.
Elizabeths parents were Philip and Diana (Dinah?)Tingle.
Philip had a brother Robert who married Hester Brain.
Philip and Roberts parents were John and Elizabeth ?
Thomas is Roberts son? therefore a cousin of my gt.gt.gt. grandmother.
What does that make us??????

thanks again

Ancestors of Elizabeth Hawker (reply)

plumes — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:50:53 +0000

I believe Elizabeth Hawker 1803 and Thomas Hawker 1805 were first cousins, Elizabeth's father was Philip Hawker, baptised Lydney 12 September 1780 (wife Diana Tingle) and Thomas' father was Robert Hawker, his older brother, baptised 02 May 1778, also at Lydney (wife Hester Brain). Their parents were John Hawker and Elizabeth ?OAKEY.
I have a special interest as Thomas Hawker was my g-g-grandfather.
Moira Gilfeather

JACKSON in Cinderford St Johns (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:11:56 +0000

yes - go to the Parish records

search on JACKSON, Cinderford St Johns BURIALS

and at least 54 will come up

Diana PHIPPS nee JACKSON 1837 Ruspidge - Blakeney Hill (reply)

Ian Jackson — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:00:41 +0000

Slowhands-you are unbelievable-what a magnificent site.
Can I in any way get a list of burials at Cinderford St Johns as it seems most of the Jackson family were from the parish?
I also have an inkling that we might be related to the butchers in Cinderford.

regards

Jacko

Diana JACKSON 1837 Ruspidge (reply)

Ian Jackson — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:54:46 +0000

That could very well be; thanks for that.
Does the marriage entry give her parents names?
It should read Daniel and Elizabeth Jackson.
I'm getting there slowly and have over 450 names on "the tree".
Mainly doing it for my two grand daughters who coincidentally have been named Anna and Elizabeth-old family names now I see.
regards

Diana PHIPPS nee JACKSON 1837 Ruspidge - Blakeney Hill (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:54:40 +0000

Diana / Dinah marries the "lodger"

Name: Dinah Jackson
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 25

Year: 1853
Month: Feb
Day: 6
Grooms_Surname: PHIPPS
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miner
Grooms_Residence: Blakeney Hill
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Phipps
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Carpenter
Brides_Surname: JACKSON
Brides_Forenames: Dinah
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Blakeney Hill
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Jackson
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Daniel
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: Mark of John Philps
Witness_2: Mark of Elizabeth Phelps
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Poole
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page_Number: 136
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

she does not appear with John in 1861 and 1871 so I assume she has died.....

1851 Cinderford
William Calway abt 1808 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Calway abt 1804 Rueardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Phipps abt 1823 Blakeney, Gloucestershire, England Lodger East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 lodging with the JACKSONs

1871 Blakeney Hill
John Phipps abt 1824 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire

Diana JACKSON 1837 Ruspidge (reply)

Dewey — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:23:33 +0000

According to FreeBMD Dinah Jackson married in the Monmouth District in March 1853.
Could that be your Diana?

Diana JACKSON 1837 Ruspidge (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:01:36 +0000

1841 Ruspidge
Daniel Jackson abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jackson abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Daniel Jackson abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Dinah Jackson abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Hannah Jackson abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
William Jackson abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851 Ruspidge
Daniel Jackson abt 1800 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jackson abt 1801 Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Diana Jackson abt 1837 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Daniel Jackson abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Jackson abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
Daniel Jackson abt 1800 Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jackson abt 1802 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Daniel Jackson abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Jackson abt 1844 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Phipps abt 1835 Ann, Gloucestershire, England Nephew East Dean, Gloucestershire

Diana Hawker m ? 1849 (reply)

ChrisW — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:32:33 +0000

A bit young, but legally old enough?

Marriages Jun 1849

Baggs Stephen Westbury on S 11 679
Davis Peter Westbury On S 11 679
Hawker Diana Westbury on S 11 679
Morgan Charlotte Westbury on Severn 11 679
Powell Mary Ann Westbury on S 11 679
Powell Michael Westbury on S 11 679
Wait Abraham Westbury on S 11 679
Wilks Caroline Westbury on S 11 679

Ancestors of Elizabeth Hawker (reply)

Matt Nash — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:28:59 +0000

A Thomas Hawker, baptised in 1805 fathered a son in 1828 with Anne Nash (born 1810), daughter of Richard Nash (abt 1779-1864) and Mary James (abt 1783-1854). This child, Robert Hawker Nash, married Louisa Sambrook and had nine children.

It's unclear to me whether this Thomas Hawker was a close relative of your Elizabeth Hawker as they appear to have different parents (see below)

Record_ID: 265066
Entry_Number:
Year: 1805
Month: Mar
Day: 31
Parents_Surname: HAWKER
Child_Forenames: Thomas
Fathers_Forenames: Robert
Mothers_Forenames: Esther
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: at Breem Chapel
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 26
Parish_Chapel: Newland

Record_ID: 185224
Entry_Number: 0
Year: 1803
Month: Feb
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: HAWKER
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: Philip
Mothers_Forenames: Dinah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: [not stated]
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: [not stated]
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: dau[ghte]r of Born Jan[uar]y 30 1803
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 12
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

Ancestors of Elizabeth Hawker

Ian Jackson — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:14:34 +0000

I'm looking for further information about Elizabeth Hawker my Gt gt gt grandmother. I think she had a brother Robert.
She was born 1800 and married Daniel Jackson in October 1819. They had 4 children; William: Diana:John and Daniel.
Diana b 1837 is the one that I have been unable to trace any further.
Calling all Hawkers!!