I have the father of Absalom as William Brain, and see from later census details that William & Thomas have joined the family. I don't however have information that William is their father. Perhaps Ann married again?

Can I ask why you're interested in Roy & Joyce Brain? They are my grandparents and live in Broadwell. Does this mean we are related?

Melanie

I have William Brain & Ann Kear in my family tree, due to my plotting siblings & parents of spouses, which I sometimes take too far as information becomes available.

My interest is in connection with William Brain & Ann Kear's GGG Grandson (via Absalom) Royston Hubert Brain born Pillowell 21.11.1924 marrying Joyce Mary Evans born 12.7.1922, daughter of Arnold Evans & Doris Emma Roberts who are related to me.

I had the children of William Brain & Ann Kear as Absalom 1829, William 1830, Thomas 1840 & Edmund 1846.

I am therefore in difficulty understanding the death of William occurring in 1832, I am not aware that they had the technology in those days to produce children so long after their death. So perhaps I have got it wrong somewhere !!

If the death is correct, who was the father ?

Jim Ashton

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there is a srong chance this is her Brothers family - Enoch 1800 ish

Year: 1800
Month: Sep
Day: 14
Parents_Surname: KEAR
Child_Forenames: Enoch
Fathers_Forenames: Enoch
Mothers_Forenames: Hanah[sic]
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: son of
Notes: Taken in to Newland
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 156
Parish_Chapel: Bream

Thanks again. WIll have to phone my Grandad later.

That's so helpful - can you tell me where your info is from. Also - where is Howbeach Colliery? Is it near Mosely Green as Grandad is quite sure that's where his grandfather died.

Regards

Melanie

I know it's difficult to be certian, but it seems to me on the available information that this is a very likely marriage and birth for my Ann & William. How certain do you think I can be and what further information might I get to verify this?

Also - I was rather hoping the marriage record might give more info about grooms and brides father. Is there usually more information than this.

Thanks again

Melanie
(in Sunny(!) Pontypool - originally from Coleford)

Brain Thomas
22/01/1912
43
Collier
Howbeach

Deceased worked in a place 7.5 feet wide, in a seam of coal 2 feet 8 inches in thickness, having a hard sandstone roof full of joints and slips. He was sitting a few yards from the face while his marrow threw back some lying coal, when a stone 6 feet long, 5 feet wide at centre, and 3 feet thick at one end, tapering to a feather edge at the other, suddenly fell from the roof, reeling out four props. Deceased was dead when got out. The place had been well timbered with props carrying thick lids, and had been examined by the overman and reported safe three hours prior to the accident.

Very few remains of Howbeach colliery are to be found. The main shaft of the mine was situated to the South of the Blakeney to Parkend road near Moseley Green. There are a few masonry blocks on an otherwise fairly level open area beside the road (SO 6388 0878) .

Further along in time Williams grandson Thomas Brain b. 1867 in Pilowell (son of Absalom Brain) died in a mining accident at Trafalgar Colliery Mosely Green acording to family information.

My grandfather can remember his father telling him about the accident which took place sometime before 1920. Any ideas how I might find out more acout this accident?

Regards

Melanie

Regards

Melanie

Brain William 07/01/1832


Whilst working in a coalpit at Parkend, he was cautioned of the danger of a quantity of projecting coals, but he disregarded the advice and continued his work, till suddenly the whole mass fell on him.

as you suggest leading to

Year: 1825
Month: Sep
Day: 24
Grooms_Surname: BRAIN
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Hundred of St Braivels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: KEAR
Brides_Forenames: Ann
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Thos Hawkes
Witness_2: D[?] Kear
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: H. Douglas Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 171
Parish_Chapel: Newland

1851 Pillowell
Ann Brain abt 1805 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Brain abt 1840 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 Pillowell
Ann Brain abt 1804 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Absalom Brain abt 1829 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Brain abt 1840 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 Pillowell
Ann Brain abt 1804 Newcastle;[NEWLAND] Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire

1881 Yorkley
Lois Brown abt 1828 Pillowell West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire Post Mistress
Ann Brain abt 1804 Bream Eves West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Mother Newland, Gloucestershire

I am seeking more information on my Brain family from Yorkely / Viney Hill ? Pillowell areas.

This is the information I currently have...

William Brain (died bef 1841) married Ann b. approx 1804 d. 1888 buried in Viney Hill(possible marriage Ann Kear 24 Sept 1825 Newland)

Their son Absalom Brain b.1828 d.1907 (Absolom) Brain is my GGGgrandfather. He married Frances Elizabeth Kear b.1844.

Other sons of William & Ann Brain are Thomas and William.

Children of Absalom and Frances Brain are:
Lydia b. 1863, Thomas 1867, Louisa 1871, William 1874, Grantley 1875, Lorenza 1878 and Emma 1880.

Loisa married Edmund Arblaster and is buried at Viney Hill.

Any connections information or advice gratefully recieved as I am a "Brain" family member too and would love to get further back with this family.

Melanie