Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Where is Clowerwall please?

Where is Clowerwall please? (reply)

kiwiceltic — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:27:27 +0000

many thanks to slowhands and bryanm

Where is Clowerwall please? (reply)

bryanm — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:45:48 +0000

Clowerwall is Clearwell

The Letters of Administration (reply)

kiwiceltic — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:04:40 +0000

Brillant Sherlock Slowhands knew i could get the correct infro from you in easy understandable english for my old fuzzy brain to take in. Cheers m8

The Letters of Administration (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:42:37 +0000

Similar to executing a Will, but in special circumstances..

Letter of administration: Upon the death of a person intestate, or leaving a will without appointing executors, or when the executors appointed by the will cannot or will not act, ......

Ignoring that proving Wills was somewhat different to today :-)

The Letters of Administration (reply)

kiwiceltic — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:32:55 +0000

Remember when i asked about the surname SIBRANCE begin connected to my JoanJoanae Joanna Joo who married Guileilmi ELSMORE 1674, Slowhands well have had it confirmed that is indeed her surname. Now all i need is to find her duaghter in law Margarettae/Margaret ? surname who was married to Guielmi/William ELSMORE Abt. 1698.
What I found out about JoanJoanae Joanna Joo SIBRANCE was this, you might be able to explain what a "The Letters of Administration" is to us please.
This what I was told.
Guileilmi ELSMORE and Joan/Joanae/Joanna/Joo/Joanae SIBRANCE never left wills but did leave behind a "The Letters of Administration".
The Letters of Administration are forms into which the names are added.
They don't give much detail and are difficult to read. The one belonging to Joseph was proved in the Court of the Bishop of Gloucester in 1728 by
John Elsmore his eldest son.
This, I think, confirms what we know but gives no other details only to say that John will administer Joseph's estate according to the law.
The second, belonging to Joan, is prove by William, her eldest son, in 1732 and is exactly the same as that of Joseph.
It shows Joan, wife of William buried in October 1686. The document does name Joan as Joan Sibrance als Elsmore so we have the right one.
It is possible that it took that long for the Letters of Administration to be granted as have heard that there was corruption and bribery in the Courts at the time.

Clowerwell (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:02:59 +0000

Without seeing the original we can but guess the word Cloverwell, Coldwell etc..

There is a Coldwell near English Bicknor.

I think most of your "clan" have been Newland / Ellwood , so I'd be tempted by Clearwell too.

The village was once named Wellington "the place of the spring" then Clowerwell meaning "spring among the clover" from which Clearwell is derived

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cbennett/clearwell1902.htm

Where is Clowerwall please?

kiwiceltic — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:51:46 +0000

I believe my JoanJoanae Joanna Joo SIBRANCE born Abt. 1660 came from Clowerwall.
Now just where is Clowerwall or is it Clearwell.
And is the surname SIBRANCE still in use in The FOD or has it died out please many thanks.