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<title>William BIRKS Lydney and other background  stuff  (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in 1868 landlord at<br />
True Heart, William Birks, Lydney</p>
<p>in 1881 BIRKS family are running the George Inn / Hotel ( High St Aylburton )</p>
<p>George Inn, High Street GL15 6DE<br />
The George Inn is a traditional sandstone built building on the A48. <br />
Map Reference:</p>
<p>Owner in 1891: Representatives of Mrs Stephens (free from brewery tie)<br />
Rateable value in 1891: £32.15s.0d. <br />
Type of licence in 1891: Alehouse<br />
Owner in 1903: Representatives of Mrs Stephens (free from brewery tie)<br />
Rateable value in 1903: £32.15s.0d. <br />
Type of licence in 1903: Alehouse<br />
Closing time in 1903: 10pm<br />
Present Status: Still trading<br />
Heritage:<br />
Phone:<br />
Landlords:</p>
<p>1876 Joseph Birks<br />
1885,1891,1903,1906  William Charles Birks<br />
1919 Henry Howard Davies<br />
1939 Frederick Edmund Hyde<br />
1995 Lynda Ruck</p>
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In 1871<br />
Police Sargeant Henry Swatton  abt 1837  Collinbonner, Wiltshire, England Head  Lydney, Gloucestershire </p>
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><p>Sallow complexion - pale</p>
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><p>Noggin - a quarter of a pint of ale -( 1/8th of a litre )</p>
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><p>So 10 days hard labour for 1/2 pint of ale and a measure of Gin.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Elizabeth Adelaide PRITCHARD - a criminal (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Gaol Record her father was <strong>Sam Pritchard</strong> of Queen St Lydney and she was a thirsty girl!</p>
<p>Other details are:-</p>
<p>Date of Admission- 13 Oct 1871<br />
Prisoner No 6411<br />
Last Residence &amp; Trade - Lydney, Servant <br />
Age -14<br />
Height 5ft 0 ins<br />
Hair- Bro[wn]<br />
Eyes- Grey<br />
Visage- Round<br />
Complexion - Sallow[?]<br />
Distinguishing Marks- Scar Right Eybrow, another on right [th?], one on each arm</p>
<p>Cause of Commitment - Obtaining by false pretences one noggin and a half of gin, the property of one <strong>Willm Birko[?] </strong>at Lydney on the 12th of July 1871. Also obtaining by false pretences one noggin and a half of gin the property of of the said Wm Birko on the 18th July 1871 with intent to defraud </p>
<p>When Tried - 18 Oct 1871<br />
Verdict - Guilty of larceny from her master[?]<br />
Sentence - Ten days hard labour<br />
Discharged - 27 Oct 1871, term expired</p>
<p>Previous known character, habits and connections - Single, nat[?] Lydney,known to <strong>PC Swatton[?] </strong>12 months, nothing previously known against her - father <strong>Sam Pritchard, Queen St Lydney </strong></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Elizabeth Adelaide PRITCHARD - a criminal (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is some confusion here .</p>
<p>The Elizabeth (Imbicile from Bitton) is  a remote possibility as being the Elizabeth Adelaide referred to on the Goal record. - although to be 100% you will need to see the Goal record.</p>
<p>My reading is that it is Elizabeth Adelaide 1858 ( daughter) who is Goalled in 1871 after the Census was taken.</p>
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<title>Elizabeth Adelaide Pritchard - a criminal (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am now seriously beginning to question whether this is the Elizabeth Adelaide Pritchard in my family tree. Both mother and daughter had the same name, both lived in Lydney in 1871. The date of birth given in the gaol records is 1834, this is a possible match for the mother as she was born in 1832 /33. However the gaol records also state that the jailed Elizabeth Adelaide was a servant and U - which I took to mean unmarried / single. </p>
<p>The fact that the jailed Elizabeth was referred to as an imbecile or someone with severe learning difficulties / disability also makes me question the link. There has been no mention of imbecile on any of the census returns relating to my Elizabeths and both were married with children in their 20s.</p>
<p>I shall just have to buy the gaol record I thnk to see if this sheds anymore light!!</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she was classed as &quot;an imbicile&quot; it means she was born with severe learning difficulties.</p>
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<title>Elizabeth Adelaide PRITCHARD mother or daughter ? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mm, Slowhands, the mind boggles...</p>
<p>I assumed that it was the daughter as I thought the U stood for unmarried and going on the fact as you say the Elizabeth Adelaide on the gaol record was a servant.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>Interesting you say it was a boys 'prison' and the fact that she was born Lydney but stated as being elsewhere. I guess the only way to find out is coughing up the £4.89 minimum charge to get the details from the Record Office, even if it's not 'my' Elizabeth Adelaide, it could rule 'mine' out and I can always pass the info to someone else if they wanted it!!</p>
<p>Another thought however, does 1834 relate to the birth date?</p>
<p>Any other ideas appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks again Slowhands ... you are not so 'slow' are you!!</p>
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<title>Elizabeth Adelaide PRITCHARD mother or daughter ? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Year: 1857 <br />
Month: Oct <br />
Day: 18 <br />
Parents_Surname: PRITCHARD <br />
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth Adelaide <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Samuel <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth Adelaide <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Lower Mill <br />
Occupation: Tin man <br />
Officiating_Minister: Richard Davies Curate <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: PFC209 IN 1/5 <br />
Page_Number: 36 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney </p>
<p>Year Surname Forename Gender Parish Reference Occupation Catalog <br />
1871 pritchard eliz. adelaide U Lydney Q/Gc6/6 servant Gaol </p>
<p>in 1871 census<br />
Elizabeth A Pritchard  abt 1858  Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  Lydney, Gloucestershire <br />
at home of Samuel &amp; Elizabeth Pritchard</p>
<p>also </p>
<p>In 1871 census at the Reformatory at Hardwicke nr Gloucester<br />
Elizabeth Pritchard  abt 1834  N Inmate  Eastington, Gloucestershire <br />
{ down as &quot;Imbicile from Bitton&quot; also as &quot;Inmate&quot;, strange as it was a Boys place of &quot;correction&quot; }</p>
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<em>Could she have been sent to Goal at the age of 13/14 ?</em> -- yes , for what today we might consider trivial, stealing apples etc.</p>
<p><em>What info might the record contain ?  </em>- If you are lucky you could find details of the crime, the date of the trial , duration of sentence, and a description of the prisoner</p>
<p>It might be mother in Goal ??<br />
The record suggest a Servant so the daughter is favorite</p>
<p>Name: Samuel Pritchard<br />
Name: Elizabeth Adelaide Cole <br />
Year of Registration: 1850  <br />
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar  <br />
District: Bristol  <br />
County: Avon, Gloucestershire  <br />
Volume: 11  <br />
Page: 183</p>
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<title>Elizabeth Adelaide Pritchard - a criminal</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently been tracing my family tree particularly the Pritchards of Lydney c1850 - 1900. <br />
It has been brought to my attention by another interested party that there is the possibility that one of my great grandmother's sisters Elizabeth Adelaide Pritchard was sent to gaol in 1871. </p>
<p>This info has come from Gloucester Records Office Database. </p>
<p>1871 Elizabeth Adelaide Pritchard, ummarried, servant, born Lydney was sent to gaol.</p>
<p>The Elizabeth in my tree would only have been 13 - 14 at the time, is it possible she was jailed at this age in 1871?</p>
<p>If I go to the Records Office as I assume this is the only way of gaining further info, how much info is normally held to help confirm that this was indeed my gt aunt?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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