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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael continues:</p>
<p>&quot;A few years after Edward died, John Cleese, who had known him, told me he was writing a new film –  A Fish Called Wanda – in which one member of a dysfunctional gang had a stammer. He asked if I could help him understand how a stammer worked and where it came from; so my character Ken Pile was born.&quot; <br />
&quot;Ken Pile was the most sympathetic of the gang, and though bullied by the other gang-members because of his stammer, he rose up against his tormentor and squashed him with a steamroller.&quot;<br />
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The film was released in 1988.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fish_Called_Wanda">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fish_Called_Wanda</a></p>
<p>&quot;One of the fortunate by-products of the film’s success was something that never happened when my father was alive. People began to talk about stammering. Some stammerers thought Ken’s character was merely cruel, others were quite chuffed that a stammerer figured so prominently in such a much-loved film, and had a chance to wreak such dramatic revenge.<br />
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&quot;I was contacted by a successful businessman and altogether lovely man who had a stammer. He asked if I would support the establishment of a centre for the particular treatment of stammering in children. My father’s silent suffering came immediately to mind. Here was just the sort of thing that might have changed his life: a therapy whose aim was to spot a stammer from the first moment it manifests itself, which can be as early as three years old. I agreed, and five years after Ken Pile was born, the Michael Palin Centre for Stammering Children opened in the Finsbury Health Centre in central London. We had one full-time and one part-time therapist. And there was nowhere else quite like it in the country.<br />
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&quot;Nearly 18 years on, the centre has 10 full-time therapists, has changed the lives of many hundreds of children for the better, and in 2008 was given a £340,000 vote of confidence by the Government, to extend the expertise of the London Centre across the country. Discussions are well under way to create something similar in the north of England. At the core of  their therapy was the involvement of the family. Without this the stammering child would feel isolated, and only with their participation was it possible to fully understand where and how the stammer arose and could be treated. To meet the parents who have come along to the Centre and to see hope where there was once only fear and anxiety is both moving and deeply encouraging.</p>
<p>&quot;There is nothing I am more proud of in my life than the establishment and success of the Michael Palin Centre, though all the really hard work has been done by others.&quot;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stammeringcentre.org/">http://www.stammeringcentre.org/</a></p>
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<p>My cousin has a pronounced stammer which, despite causing childhood problems and subsequently his “failing” at school, he still become a very successful businessman now enjoying a luxurious and very early retirement. If you have the drive &amp; ambition and even a difficult stammer he proved that just one school qualification, in his case in Woodwork, can be turned into a very successful business in the building trade. However he is an exceptional character and was fortunate to be in the right place &amp; business at the right time. If he'd had more support with his stammer as a child who-knows what he'd have achieved, but more importantly what about those many other children less fortunate or strong-willed who suffer the pain of stammering ? </p>
<p>On behalf of cousin Alan and many others like him I wish to express sincere thanks to the lasting legacy of Edward Moreton Palin, who has given great hope to those who stammer.</p>
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<title>The Life of Edward Moreton Palin, 1900 - 1977 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Slowhands for reminding us about the interesting Palin family story during the week Michael was deservedly awarded his BAFTA Fellowship, I hope I can add a little to it, sorry it's a few weeks late.</p>
<p>I'm a huge fan of British alternative comedy particularly the crazy Goons who started it all, but the Python Flying Circus passed me by largely as they wern't considered suitable TV viewing by my parents !  I loved their later films though, after all &quot;what did the Romans do for us ???&quot;. </p>
<p>Recently I was amazed to find my father-in-law was a huge fan too before his premature death; I say &quot;amazed&quot; as his adoring wife was and still is a very &quot;good&quot; Catholic lady with similar TV views to my mum, so her husband took his daughters to see &quot;The Life of Brian&quot; at the cinema in secret, she still doesn't know this !!  :-)<br />
Sadly he passed away before I met him or his daughter, but I think we'd have got on well !</p>
<p>When I grew &quot;old enough&quot; I immensely enjoyed Michael's &quot;Ripping Yarns&quot; series, his film acting and travelogues so enjoyed reading his biography; his father in particular was an interesting character who made a great impression on young Michael, who surprisingly believes “my life has been a series of lucky accidents”.</p>
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<p>Edward Moreton PALIN was born Walshingham Norfolk in 1900 and studied engineering at Shrewsbury Public School and Cambridge University. He married Mary Rachel LOCKHART in Henley On Thames Oxfordshire in 1930. Mary was daughter of Lieutenant-Colonel Richard Lockhart Ovey, DSO, who had been High Sheriff of Oxfordshire in 1927.  As Slowhands suggested the Palins have ancestral roots in Letterkenny, County Donegal, Ireland.<br />
Edward &amp; Mary settled in Sheffield where Edward became the manager of a toilet paper factory. Their first child was Angela b1934 and then Michael b1943. Despite their limited income even after becoming export manager of the steel company Edgar Allen and Co., Edward managed to provide Michael with a private education, first locally at Birkdale Preparatory School, then Shrewsbury and finally Brasenose College Oxford. </p>
<p>I was pleased to read it wasn’t just me who didn’t understand some of the Monty Python work ! <br />
Edward Moreton Palin passed away in 1977, Michael was asked if his father liked the show ?. <br />
&quot;No, I don't think he quite got Python. Also, he was developing Parkinson's and the medication was giving him hallucinations. [Fellow Python] Graham Chapman was a medical man and was fascinated by the fact that my father was seeing hamsters running up his trouser leg. In fact, my mother would have to retrieve them and put them in a bag.&quot; Graham found it extraordinary that it was so surreal and Pythonic. My mother, bless her, defended Python. I don't know how much she understood it.&quot;</p>
<p>Young Edward had hopes of becoming a church organist, but appears – after a bright start – to have felt that his life failed to proceed as he'd wished. Although popular and witty even Edward’s friends describe him as a sometimes intimidating figure; a man whose frequent irritation was exacerbated or even caused by his painful lifelong stammer.</p>
<p>As Michael says,  “If you stammer, life is different for you. Simple things that the rest of us take for granted become potential minefields of embarrassment. No wonder my father had a short fuse. For him daily dialogue was an ordeal, frustration a way of life.” <br />
&quot;He was always confronting people, bus conductors, waitresses: he felt everyone was laying traps and should be treated with suspicion. There was always tension when he was around. I found it deeply embarrassing. That's why I hate rows and try to avoid confrontation.  I couldn't say I was frightened of my father, but I never felt totally comfortable with him. When you just can't get the words out, it distances you.&quot;<br />
&quot;And it placed me – an articulate child – in the awkward position of being able to do something which he, the adult, couldn't. I imagine that could be enervating”.<br />
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&quot;Edward was quite dour,&quot; recalls a lifelong friend of Michael, while mother Mary was &quot;wonderful. A tiny woman, but so full of love and laughter. I think a lot of Michael’s character comes from that.&quot;</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name:Edward Watson Palin<br />
Probate Date:18 Feb 1937<br />
Death Date:19 Jan 1937<br />
Death Place:Gloucestershire, England<br />
Registry:Norwich</p>
<p>of Cleeve Cottage Chalford Hill Gloucestershire died at St Thomas Hospital London SE 1<br />
probate to Agnes Rosa Palin widow</p>
<p>Name:Edward W Palin<br />
Birth Date:abt 1869<br />
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1937<br />
Age at Death:68<br />
Registration District:Lambeth<br />
Inferred County:Greater London<br />
Volume:1d<br />
Page: 187</p>
<p>1911 The Oaks, Oak St, Fakenham<br />
Edward Watson Palin 43 Medical Practitioner Linton, Herefordshire<br />
Agnes Rosa Palin 42<br />
Katharine Mary Palin 2<br />
Florence Emma Bartaby 25<br />
Florence Gertrude Park 25<br />
Laura Williamson 21</p>
<p>1911 Lindley School ? nr Nuneaton<br />
Edward Palin abt 1901 Gt Ryborgh, Norfolk, England Pupil Higham on the Hill, Leicestershire</p>
<p>Name: Edward Moreton Palin <br />
Year of Registration: 1900 <br />
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep <br />
District: Walsingham <br />
County: Norfolk <br />
Volume: 4b <br />
Page: 262 </p>
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Year: 1868 <br />
Month: Sep <br />
Day: 6 <br />
Parents_Surname: PALIN <br />
Child_Forenames: Edward Watson <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Edward <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Brita <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Linton Vicarage <br />
Occupation: Clerk in holy orders <br />
Officiating_Minister:  <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference:  <br />
Page_Number:  <br />
Parish_Chapel: Linton</p>
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<title>Brita PALIN nee GALLAGHER (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a rather intriguing nineteenth century romance set in Switzerland and France. The story begins with the birth of Michael's great grandmother, Brita Gallagher, around 1845, in Ireland.( Letterkenny, County Donegal ?)</p>
<p> Tragedy was to strike Brita at an early age, as both her parents perished in the potato famine. Orphaned, with only a label on her dress to identify her, she was sent to America like so many of her peers in one of the infamous 'coffin ships', so called because of the high mortality rate amongst those on board. She was brought up by a rich spinster called Caroline Watson, and was then sent back to Europe to receive an education aged 16.</p>
<p> She traveled for several years, before making a chance encounter with an English academic called Edward Palin in a hotel in Switzerland, who was an Oxford Don at the time at St John's College. Although there was a seventeen-year age gap, they were attracted to one another, but nothing came of things; according to his diary, he wistfully ponders on 'what might have been'. However, they kept in touch and in 1867 they got married in Paris once she'd attained the age of 21. </p>
<p>Their problems were not over, though; Edward was forced to give up his position in college but secured a living as the vicar of Linton, Herefordshire. The couple lived in some degree of comfort, bringing up their seven children with the help of a large domestic staff.</p>
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<title>Lance Corporal  Harry  PALIN 1884-1916 R I P (reply)</title>
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<em>At the going down of the sun and in the morning <br />
We will remember them.</em></p>
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Name: PALIN, HENRY WILLIAM BOURNE <br />
Initials: H W B <br />
Nationality: New Zealand <br />
Rank: Lance Corporal <br />
Regiment/Service: Canterbury Regiment, N.Z.E.F. <br />
Unit Text: 1st Bn. <br />
Age: 32 <br />
Date of Death: 27/09/1916 <br />
Service No: 6/319 <br />
Additional information: Son of Edward and Brita Palin. <br />
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead <br />
Memorial: CATERPILLAR VALLEY (NEW ZEALAND) MEMORIAL </p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3329304/Michael-Palin-My-guilt-over-my-great-uncle-who-died-in-the-First-World-War.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3329304/Michael-Palin-My-guilt...</a></p>
<p>1901<br />
Henry Wm Bonone Palin abt 1885 Linton, Herefordshire, England Boarder St Julian, Shropshire</p>
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Year: 1884 <br />
Month: Nov <br />
Day: 2 <br />
Parents_Surname: PALIN <br />
Child_Forenames: Henry William Bourne <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Edward <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Brita <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Linton Vicarage <br />
Occupation: Clerk in Holy Orders <br />
Officiating_Minister:  <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Fell in Great War 1914-1918 <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference:  <br />
Page_Number:  <br />
Parish_Chapel: Linton</p>
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<title>Edward PALIN 1825 -1903 Finsbury MDX  in Linton (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Edward Palin CBE FRGS was born on 5 May, 1943  in Broomhill, Sheffield, South Yorkshire,<br />
 the second child and only son of Mary Rachel Lockhart (née Ovey) and Edward Moreton Palin. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/831932">http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/831932</a></p>
<p>Name: Edward Moreton Palin <br />
Year of Registration: 1900  <br />
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep  <br />
District: Walsingham  <br />
County: Norfolk  <br />
Volume: 4b  <br />
Page: 262  </p>
<p><br />
1901<br />
 Edward W Palisi   abt 1869  Lenton, Herefordshire, England Head  Great Ryburgh, Norfolk <br />
Agnes B Palisi   abt 1869  Mackley, Staffordshire, England Wife  Great Ryburgh, Norfolk  <br />
 Edward M Palisi  abt 1900  Great Ryburgh, Norfolk, England Son  Great Ryburgh, Norfolk  </p>
<p><br />
Name: Agnes Rosa Buckley<br />
Name: Edward Watson Palin <br />
Year of Registration: 1899  <br />
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep  <br />
District: Newcastle Under Lyme  <br />
County: Staffordshire  <br />
Volume: 6b  <br />
Page: 85  </p>
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><p>Year: 1903 <br />
Month: Nov <br />
Day: 7 <br />
Surname: PALIN <br />
Forenames: Edward <br />
Residence: The Vicarage Linton <br />
Age_at_death: 77 <br />
Officiating_Minister: F. K. W. Ingram Rector of Ross &amp; Ruardean  <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes: [1]Vicar [2]Husband of Brita Palin <br />
Register_Reference: BM26/1 <br />
Page_No: 34 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Linton </p>
<p><br />
1901<br />
Edward Palin  abt 1826  Finsbury, London, England Head  Linton, Herefordshire  <br />
Brita Palin  abt 1844  N Jersey Burlington, United States Wife  Linton, Herefordshire  <br />
 Edith B Palin abt 1876  Linton, Herefordshire, England Daughter  Linton, Herefordshire  <br />
 Eleanor S Palin  abt 1879  Linton, Herefordshire, England Daughter  Linton, Herefordshire </p>
<p>1891<br />
Edward Palin  abt 1826 Finsbury, London, England Head  Linton, Herefordshire  <br />
Brita Palin  abt 1845 United States Wife  Linton, Herefordshire  <br />
 Brita E W Palin abt 1870 Linton, Herefordshire, England Daughter  Linton, Herefordshire  <br />
 <span style="color:#090;">Edward W Palin  abt 1869 Linton</span>, Herefordshire, England Son  Linton, Herefordshire  <br />
 Eleanor S Palin  abt 1879 Linton, Herefordshire, England Daughter  Linton, Herefordshire  <br />
 Henry W B Palin  abt 1885 Linton, Herefordshire, England Son  Linton, Herefordshire </p>
<p>Year: 1882 <br />
Month: Feb <br />
Day: 17 <br />
Surname: WATSON <br />
Forenames: Caroline <br />
Residence: Linton Vicarage <br />
Age_at_death: 84 <br />
Officiating_Minister: Henry Pailin Gurney <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes: [1]Nanny [2]employee of Palin family <br />
Register_Reference: BM26/1 <br />
Page_No: 12 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Linton </p>
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1881<br />
Edward Palinabt 1826 Finbrey, Middlesex, England Head  Linton in Newent, Herefordshire  <br />
Brita Palin  abt 1845 Pennsylvania, United States Wife  Linton in Newent, Herefordshire  <br />
 Brita E. W. Palin abt 1870 Linton, Hereford, England Daughter  Linton in Newent, Herefordshire  <br />
 Edith B. Palin  abt 1876 Linton, Hereford, England Daughter  Linton in Newent, Herefordshire  <br />
 Eleanor S. Palin  abt 1879 Linton, Hereford, England Daughter  Linton in Newent, Herefordshire  <br />
 Mary J. Palin abt 1874 Linton, Hereford, England Daughter  Linton in Newent, Herefordshire  <br />
 Richard M. Palin  abt 1872 Linton, Hereford, England Son  Linton in Newent, Herefordshire</p>
<p>1871<br />
 Edward Palin  abt 1826  London, England Head  Linton, Herefordshire  <br />
Brita Palin  abt 1843  United States Wife  Linton, Herefordshire  <br />
 Edwd Watson Palin abt 1869  Linton, Herefordshire, England Son  Linton, Herefordshire <br />
Brita Emily Watson Palin abt 1864  Linton, Herefordshire, England Daughter  Linton, Herefordshire <br />
Caroline Watson  abt 1800  United States Boarder  Linton, Herefordshire</p>
<p>Year: 1868 <br />
Month: Sep <br />
Day: 6 <br />
Parents_Surname: PALIN <br />
Child_Forenames: Edward Watson <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Edward <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Brita <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Linton Vicarage <br />
Occupation: Clerk in holy orders <br />
Officiating_Minister:  <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference:  <br />
Page_Number:  <br />
Parish_Chapel: Linton</p>
<p>1867 Paris; Edward PALIN marries Brita GALLAGHER</p>
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1851<br />
Edward Palin  abt 1826  London, Middlesex, England    Oxford St Mary Magdalen, Oxfordshire </p>
<p>1851<br />
Richard Polin  abt 1799  Mortlake, Surrey, England Head  St Luke Old Street, Middlesex  <br />
 Sophia Polin   abt 1803  St Lukes, Middlesex, England Wife  St Luke Old Street, Middlesex </p>
<p>1841<br />
 Richd Palin abt 1801    St Luke, Middlesex  <br />
 Sophia Palin abt 1806  Middlesex, England St Luke, Middlesex <br />
 Edward Palin abt 1826  Middlesex, England St Luke, Middlesex  <br />
 Eleanor Palin abt 1826  Middlesex, England St Luke, Middlesex  <br />
Sarah Palin abt 1761    St Luke, Middlesex</p>
<p>EDWARD PALIN <br />
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Event(s): <br />
 Birth:  21 NOV 1825    <br />
 Christening:  11 DEC 1825   Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England <br />
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Parents: <br />
  Father:  RICHARD PALIN  <br />
  Mother:  SOPHIA     <br />
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Messages: <br />
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The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.  <br />
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<p>RICHARD PALIN <br />
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Marriages: <br />
  Spouse:  SOPHIA FREEMAN <br />
  Marriage:  30 MAR 1821   Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England <br />
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<p>Richard &lt;Palin&gt; <br />
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Event(s): <br />
 Birth:  <br />
 Christening:  05 MAY 1799   Mortlake, Surrey, England <br />
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Parents: <br />
  Father:  Richard Palin <br />
  Mother:  Sarah     <br />
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wink, Wink, nudge, nudge, say no more, there I was happily sitting down reading my Family History when I read about Michael Palin's family history. It turns out that Edward Palin was the minster at Linton, Michael's Great Grandfather.<br />
I am proud to say it was Edward Palin who married my Great Grandfather Charles Probert.<br />
Good job there wasn't that many parrots around in those days.</p>
<p>Record_ID: 38066 <br />
Entry_Number: 165 <br />
Year: 1879 <br />
Month: Sep <br />
Day: 21 <br />
Grooms_Surname: PROBERT <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Charles <br />
Grooms_Age: 30 <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer <br />
Grooms_Residence: Bronmash <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Probert <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer <br />
Brides_Surname: GITTINGS <br />
Brides_Forenames: Sarah <br />
Brides_Age: 26 <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Residence: Bronmash <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Gittings <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Henry <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: He signs She marks <br />
Witness_1: Henry Gittings <br />
Witness_2: Mark of Elizabeth Gittings <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: E.Palin <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: AR91/8 <br />
Page_Number: 83 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Linton <br />
Soundex_Groom: P616 <br />
Soundex_Bride: G352 </p>
<p>Dave Probert</p>
<p>Probert's in the Forest</p>
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