Forest of Dean FHT Forum - - Base Child of Mary HARRIS 1775

Base Child of Mary HARRIS 1775 (reply)

lupine — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:05:29 +0000

thanks again for the info.

Base Child of Mary HARRIS 1775 (reply)

admin — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:05:39 +0000

"son of" and "base child" are common notations in parish records and would be correct.

Yes, base child and illegitimate do have the same meaning.

Base Child of Mary HARRIS 1775 (reply)

lupine — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:30:55 +0000

Hi,

My g-g-g-g-grandad Esau Harris was born in Awre 1775.

Can anyone clear up the memoranda notes? Number one says "son of" and number two "base child"

Am I right in thinking base child means illegitimate? If so, this confuses me as I have had paternal DNA testing done and I have a almost perfect match with another Harris and who can trace his paternal line back to the 1500's.

Finally, can anyone give me advice on where to go from here? I'm struggling to find any further information on Mary but mainly, is there anything I can do to find out who the father of Esau was or is this a virtually impossible task with him not being on the baptism record?

Thanks.

Year: 1775
Month: Jun
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: HARIS
Child_Forenames: Esau
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [1]Son of [2](Base Child)
Notes: Blakeney Chapel
Register_Reference: P30 1 IN 1 Part 2
Page_Number: 445
Parish_Chapel: Awre
Soundex: H620

Esau HARRIS born Coleford c1775 (reply)

lupine — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:47:06 +0000

thanks, i've seen Esaus name on the fod records now, i'd missed it before becauuse of the misspelling.

Esau HARRIS born Coleford c1775 (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:31:28 +0000

again this birth is on the FOD records (base child) 25.6.1775

Esau HARRIS born Coleford c1775 (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:29:18 +0000

I should have added - Elizabeth's christening is on the FOD Parish Records - and you'll see Mary HUGHES was a Widow

Esau HARRIS born Coleford c1775 (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:26:40 +0000

There is also a birth 28.9.1791 - christening 11.3.1792 of an Elizabeth (Awre with Blakeney) - John HARRIS and Mary HUGHES.

Esau HARRIS born Coleford c1775 (reply)

lupine — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:23:39 +0000

thanks for that, that's a great help.

Esau HARRIS born Coleford c1775 (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:18:37 +0000

I've had a quick look at the Church of Latter Day Saints and

Esaw HARIS - baptised 25.6.1775 Awre with Blakeney - Mother Mary HARIS

Esau HARRIS born Coleford c1775 (reply)

lupine — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:15:17 +0000

Thanks, his son Esau was my g-g-g-grandad...I've already got most of the census information for him and his family so its mainly pre-1800 that I'm looking for.

Esau HARRIS born Coleford c1775 (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:09:12 +0000

1841 Census - Glos Dean Forest - Ross - District 14 Page 5 of 15

RESFRIDGE

(all HARRIS and born in County

Esau - 40 - Coal Miner
Ann - 35
Richard - 25 - Coal Miner
Esau 12
Alice 10
Eliza 6
Timothy 2

Esau HARRIS born Coleford c1775 (reply)

ChrisW — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:50:12 +0000

Maybe this Esau & Ann?

Record_ID: 61835
Entry_Number: 457
Year: 1793
Month: Aug
Day: 8
Grooms_Surname: HARRIS
Grooms_Forenames: Esau
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Newland
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: JONES
Brides_Forenames: Anne
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newland
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of George Prout
Witness_2: Thos Bond
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Thos Thomas curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 698
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex_Groom: H620
Soundex_Bride: J520

Esau has already died before his son is baptised?

Record_ID: 174063
Entry_Number:
Year: 1802
Month: Apr
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: HARRIS
Child_Forenames: Esau
Fathers_Forenames: Esau
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname: [nee](Jones Sp[inste]r)
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Charles Sandiford Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [1]S[on] [2]b[or]n March 14 [3]Father dec[ease]d
Notes: Blakeney Chapel
Register_Reference: P30 1 IN 1 Part 2
Page_Number: 485
Parish_Chapel: Awre
Soundex: H620

Record_ID: 264240
Entry_Number:
Year: 1796
Month: Oct
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: HARRIS
Child_Forenames: Alice
Fathers_Forenames: Esau
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: at Bream Chapel
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 865
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: H620

Esau HARRIS born Coleford c1775

lupine — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:53:08 +0000

Hi, I'm looking for information on Esau Harris born in Coleford around 1775.

He was married to Ann, they had two children as far as I'm aware, Esau and Alice.

I believe his mothers name may have been Mary but I'm trying to find out details of his father mainly. Am also trying to find out exact birth place and place of burial if possible.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.