Forest of Dean FHT Forum - John AMPHLETT 1820 -1868 died Lydney / Ayleburton

John AMPHLETT 1820 -1868 died Lydney / Ayleburton (reply)

pennyanne — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:20:10 +0000

I have some Amphlett ancestors who came from Twyning. The oldest is Charles born 1801 and his wife Mary born 1811. They had 6 children - Elizabeth 1832, Thomas 1839, Joseph 1842, Comfort 1944, Henry 1848 and Emma 1850.

Some of the children were born in Twyning and some in Tewkwsbury where the family lived during the 1851 and 1871 censuses. I have some more information if you are interested.

Who is Alice Jane ? (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 11 May 2009 22:25:55 +0000

you should consider Alice Jane ROLLINS mentioned above and possible sibling Eliza Maria (?)

John AMPHLETT 1820 -1868 died Lydney / Ayleburton (reply)

saphire — Mon, 11 May 2009 22:09:00 +0000

hi susan
many thanks for getting back to me alice is as far as i can get back and many others here. i am now going to start looking for illagitimate child. i am going to the records ofice in worcester this week and sitting patiently looking through all the parishes around. if i get anything i will let you know.
regards
eileen

Alice Jane ROLLINS 1864 Aylburton /Lydney area (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 11 May 2009 10:31:10 +0000

This ALICE seems to have a sister.

23 July 1865 - Lydney

Eliza Maria ROWLINS - illegitimate

Mothers Forename: Jane

Residence: Aylburton

John AMPHLETT 1820 -1868 died Lydney / Ayleburton (reply)

susanbeamish — Mon, 11 May 2009 07:14:06 +0000

Ihave no information other than John Amphlett is listed as Alice Jane's father on her marriage certificate and census records show her place of birth as Lydney.

My grandfather's middle name is Amphlett but I don't recall any converstaions at all about the Amphlett family.

Unfortunately prior to Alices's marriage I can't find any census records - is her birth recorded under a different surname - dare I say - illegitimate!!

John AMPHLETT 1820 -1868 died Lydney / Ayleburton (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:36:27 +0000

the line appears to be from Clent / Pedmore Worcs. ( Stourbridge area)

John AMPHLETT 1820 -1868 died Lydney / Ayleburton (reply)

saphire — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:28:01 +0000

does anyone kniow if any of your Amphlett originated from worcestershire area and the twyning area in gloucestershire. Would love to know as i am trying to help a Amphlett grandson and keep hitting blanks
many thanks eileen

John AMPHLETT 1820 -1868 died Lydney / Ayleburton (reply)

Paul Andrews — Tue, 05 May 2009 12:00:20 +0000

Can't find a burial on Forest of Dean or my copy of National Burial Index for John Amphlett 1820-1868.
I wonder if he was buried in Saint Leonard, Clent, Worcestershire?

Alice Jane ROLLINS 1864 Aylburton /Lydney area (reply)

susanbeamish — Tue, 05 May 2009 11:42:39 +0000

Very interesting - this could explain the mystery...

thanks for all your digging!

Alice J MADELEY nee AMPHLETT 1864 - 1953 (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 04 May 2009 22:14:20 +0000

Name: Alice J Madeley
Year of Registration: 1953
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sept
Age 89
District: Birmingham
Volume: 9c
Page: 347

Alice Jane ROLLINS 1864 Aylburton /Lydney area (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 04 May 2009 21:20:17 +0000

I wonder if this is John Amphlett's child ?

Year: 1864
Month: Mar
Day: 6
Parents_Surname: ROLLINS
Child_Forenames: Alice Jane
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Aylburton
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: S.Swinford Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC209 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 102
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

Alice AMPHLETT Lydney (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 04 May 2009 10:00:56 +0000

1901
Herbert Madeley abt 1865 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Head Aston, Warwickshire
Alice J Madeley abt 1864 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Aston, Warwickshire
William H Madeley abt 1887 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Aston, Warwickshire
Herbert A Madeley abt 1889 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Aston, Warwickshire
Harold Madeley abt 1890 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Aston, Warwickshire
Percy A Madeley abt 1892 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Aston, Warwickshire
Dorothy A Madeley abt 1893 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Aston, Warwickshire
Harry Madeley abt 1895 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Aston, Warwickshire
Dora H Madeley abt 1897 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Aston, Warwickshire

1891
Harbert Madeley abt 1865 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Head Aston, Warwickshire
Alice Jane Madeley abt 1864 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Aston, Warwickshire
William H Madeley abt 1887 Birmingham Son Aston, Warwickshire
Hubert A Madeley abt 1889 Birmingham Son Aston, Warwickshire
Harold Madeley abt 1890 Birmingham Son Aston, Warwickshire

Name: Herbert Madeley
Name: Alice Jane Amphlett
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Aston (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 448

Where is Alice Jane in 1871 /1881 ?

What drew Alice to the West midlands / Black country ?

Was she already there ?

Name: Alice Amphlet
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Walsall
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 587

Were her parents not married - did she take mothers surname initially ?

Name: Alice Jane Rollins
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Chepstow
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 13

Did mother re-marry after John's death in 1868 ?

Is Alice orphaned ?

many more avenues to cover :-)

John AMPHLETT (reply)

susanbeamish — Mon, 04 May 2009 07:20:12 +0000

Great-grandmother actually - Alice Jane born 1864 or thereabouts in Lydney.
Married Herbert Madeley in Aston/Birmingham in 1886. Died approx 1952.

John AMPHLETT (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 04 May 2009 05:41:01 +0000

so... what else do you know about great great grandfather so that we might be able to help - your great grandfather details perhaps ?

John AMPHLETT 1820 -1868 died Lydney (reply)

susanbeamish — Mon, 04 May 2009 05:28:07 +0000

Thanks, Aristoteles. I've requested a copy of the death certificate - hope this givs me a bit more information

John Amphlett - Lydney (reply)

susanbeamish — Mon, 04 May 2009 05:24:30 +0000

Unfortunately I don't know much about him at all - keep drawing blanks at the moment

John AMPHLETT 1820 -1868 died Lydney / Ayleburton (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 03 May 2009 11:30:51 +0000

Inquest suggests that he died of injuries going under a gig, a witness being from Aylburton ( Trotter).

Name: John Amphlett
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 48
District: Chepstow
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 9

Is this "John" ? - it seems likely as John Amphlett of Clent is noted as dying in 1868

1851
John Amphlett abt 1820 Pedmore, Worcestershire, England Head Churchill, Worcestershire
Jane Amphlett abt 1824 Skipnitt, Yorkshire, England Wife Churchill, Worcestershire
John Amphlettabt 1845 Sydenham, Kent, England Son Churchill, Worcestershire
Jane Elizabeth Amphlett abt 1850 Churchill, Worcestershire, England Daughter Churchill, Worcestershire

1861
John Amphlett abt 1821 Pedmore, Worcestershire, England Head Clent, Worcestershire
Jane Amphlett abt 1816 Shipwith, Yorkshire, England Wife Clent, Worcestershire
Jane E Amphlett abt 1850 Churchell, Worcestershire, England Daughter Clent, Worcestershire

1871
Jane Amphlett abt 1813 Shepreth, Worcestershire, England Head St Peter, Worcestershire Widow
Jane A Amphlett abt 1840 Churchill, Worcestershire, England Daughter St Peter, Worcestershire
Emily Amphlett abt 1854 Worcestershire, England Servant St Peter, Worcestershire

Clent House

Before 1726 it had been bought by Joseph Amphlett of Clent, (fn. 73)
and the great tithes have since remained in his family, being now in
the possession of Mr. John Amphlett of Clent House. (fn. 74)

From: 'Parishes: Clent', A History of the County of Worcester: volume 3 (1913),
pp. 50-54. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43086
Date accessed: 05 May 2009.

John Amphlett - Lydney (reply)

Paul Andrews — Sun, 03 May 2009 10:14:19 +0000

Was he associated with the clergy?

John Amphlett - Lydney

susanbeamish — Sun, 03 May 2009 09:45:20 +0000

Hi - Entry appears in inquest listing April 68 - Feb 69
Think this may be my great great grandfather but can find no census records

Can anyone help?

Susan