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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you stayed on Broad street then it might have been the George or Belfry as it is now known <a href="http://www.thebelfryhotel.co.uk/">http://www.thebelfryhotel.co.uk/</a>  or the Littledean House Hotel <a href="http://www.fweb.org.uk/littledeanhouse/location.htm">http://www.fweb.org.uk/littledeanhouse/location.htm</a> . If it was the latter then you were 50 yards from the the Ruffett !</p>
<p>However there are few more in Littledean...</p>
<p>. at the top of the Ruffett on Littledean hill is the Royal Foresters hotel.</p>
<p>Not sure of the Cromwell link , but Coleford is where I associate Civil War events.</p>
<p>Littledean Hall is associated with Ghosts :-)</p>
<p><br />
Cinderford had its own rail station, Station St leads from the Triangle down to the old Rail station site.( towards Bilson Green and Valley Rd)  The line made its way, after a loop, south towards Cinderford Bridge / St Whites before leaving the town, or east from bilson towards Lydbrook/Monmouth, or north towards Drybrook.</p>
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<p>WRT the old newspapers I suspect the<br />
old Mercury office and print works at 3, Woodside Street, Cinderford.<br />
<a href="http://artspacecinderford.org/index.php/about/page/the-new-mercury/">http://artspacecinderford.org/index.php/about/page/the-new-mercury/</a></p>
<p>some papers at:-</p>
<p>Cinderford Local Studies Centre newspapers<br />
<span style="color:#f00;">•Dean Forest Mercury</span> on microfilm from 1881 to  2007. Some gaps exist - please ask the staff for further information<br />
•Newspaper cuttings about notable Forest people<br />
For further information please contact us at:<br />
Cinderford Library<br />
Belle Vue Road<br />
Cinderford <br />
Gloucestershire <br />
GL14 2BZ</p>
<p>Tel: Dean (0044 1594) 822581<br />
Fax: Dean (00 44 1594) 824907</p>
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<title>Marcia Patricia Millard (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if I mentioned it clearly but Marcia Patricia Millard/Beale is my grandmothers sister, she died in Reno California USA 1986. </p>
<p>It appears my Grandmother changed her name before 1914 but after 1906 when Lovell Glendower Smith was born. I have a marriage certificate for that marriage but am convinced (and the paper work points to this) that it was fake and that my grandmother took the identity of her Grandmothers daughter (born 4 years previous to her in 1884). </p>
<p>I believe that there was an article in the local newspaper in 1914 (or close to) where a man shot at his wife at the train station as she was seeing a male &quot;friend&quot; off to the war. Does anyone know what newspaper that might be? My grandmother and Grandfather located it when we stayed in Little Dean in 1980. Also is there a train station anywhere near? My grandmother told me that they walked up the road to Cinderford (I think) and there was a newspaper office and they went through the old copies and found the article. </p>
<p>Just for my edification can anyone tell me the name of the old hotel/guesthouse on the hill (Broad st, I think) where Cromwell stayed and or the witches were burnt (vague memories of the stories about the place now but we stayed for a week or so while my Grandmother tried to find out about her mother). I was constantly being told that the place was haunted (I was 9 so I imagine that they enjoyed my response to the possibility and kept telling me)...</p>
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<title>Charles SMITH 1888 - 1891 Ruspidge (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one to rule out I'm afraid</p>
<p>1901Ruspidge<br />
Mark Smith  abt 1851  East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Caroline Smith  abt 1852  East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Walter Smith  abt 1877  East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Emma Smith  abt 1884  East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Agnes Smith  abt 1891  East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Edith Smith  abt 1895  East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  East Dean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p>Year: 1891 <br />
Month: Aug <br />
Day: 16 <br />
Surname: SMITH <br />
Forenames: Charles Edward <br />
Residence: Ruspidge Cinderford <br />
Age_at_death: 3 years <br />
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes Vicar <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/14 <br />
Page_No: 4 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns </p>
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1891 Ruspidge<br />
Mark Smith  abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Caroline Smith  abt 1853 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Walter Smith  abt 1877 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 William Smith  abt 1879 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 John Smith  abt 1882 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Emma Beatrice  abt 1883 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Maryann Eliza Smithabt 1886 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  East Dean, Gloucestershire <br />
Charles Henry Smith  abt 1888 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Agnes Amelia Smith abt 1890 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  East Dean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p>Year: 1888 <br />
Month: May <br />
Day: 6 <br />
Parents_Surname: SMITH <br />
Child_Forenames: Charles Edward <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Mark <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Caroline <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Ruspidge Cinderford <br />
Occupation: Collier <br />
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes Vicar <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Born Mar 10 1878 or 1888 <br />
Notes: Yr. Of birth is unclear because the third number is overwritten <br />
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/2 <br />
Page_Number: 217 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns</p>
<p>1881<br />
Mark Smith  abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head  Westbury On Severn - East Dean, <br />
 Caroline Smith  abt 1853 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife  Westbury On Severn - East Dean,  <br />
 Walter Smith abt 1877 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  Westbury On Severn - East Dean,  <br />
 William Smith  abt 1879 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  Westbury On Severn - East Dean,  <br />
Jasper Edwards  abt 1866 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Boarder  Westbury On Severn - East Dean,  </p>
<p>Year: 1876 <br />
Month: Apr <br />
Day: 4 <br />
Grooms_Surname: SMITH <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Mark <br />
Grooms_Age: 26 <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Collier <br />
Grooms_Residence: New Road <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [DEAD] <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:  <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Surname: EDWARDS <br />
Brides_Forenames: Caroline <br />
Brides_Age: 24 <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Residence: Blakeney Hill <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: EDWARDS <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns: [not stated] <br />
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs <br />
Witness_1: Eliza Morse <br />
Witness_2: James Morse <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: S G Edwards <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P348 IN 1/3 <br />
Page_Number: 42 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill</p>
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<title>And some more scandal (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I located the details on Millard, interestingly: my Greatgrandmother used to say &quot;the brewery people are after me&quot; when she started to lose it near the end of her life. </p>
<p>It turns out that Samuel Millard was a brewery manager, he was 59 when they married in 1914 she was 26.</p>
<p>Thanks for the sorry, I'm trying to figure out how I explain all this to my Grandmother without hurting her feelings. Deep down I know she suspected that the tale would be bad. It certainly becomes sordid later on with Caldwell leaving his wife and daughters so no surprise it starts badly as well. </p>
<p>Thanks again for your help...</p>
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<title>Another husband... Arrrggh! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humbly, I say &quot;Sorry!&quot;</p>
<p><br />
Prozac in the post :-)</p>
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<title>Another husband... Arrrggh! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>Well your guess about Davis was interesting at first but right now I'm convinced your a genius because it led me directly to look at some different possibilities and it turns out that on the 1911 Census Lovell is living with his grandparents James and Elizabeth Smith and James is a county court Bailiff (they had 7 children, 1 dead) and lived high st Cinderford. I can't imagine that there were that many Bailiffs in the area...</p>
<p>I noted that Great Granny wasn't there so I looked for her in that census and found Olive Smith 22 married to Charles Smith 23 (coal miner) Church Road Cinderford. Perhaps there was another Olive Smith of the same age. I'll look tomorrow but otherwise the picture I'm getting is that this is yet another husband. She did say that she had done some terrible thngs...</p>
<p>I'll digest fully what you have written tomorrow, its late and I'm freezing...</p>
<p>Thanks again and I really really do want to send you that xmas present...</p>
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<title>Mrs Fred DAVIS 1883 nee SMITH - Cinderford (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#f00;">[<strong>James SMITH</strong> alert - the name keeps popping up ]</span></p>
<p>Year 1906 <br />
Month Apr <br />
Day 15 <br />
Grooms Surname DAVIS <br />
Grooms Forenames Fred <br />
Grooms Age 24 <br />
Groom Condition B[achelor] <br />
Grooms Occupation Collier <br />
Grooms Residence St. John's Cinderford <br />
Grooms Fathers Surname Davis <br />
Grooms Fathers Forenames George Henry <br />
Grooms Fathers Occupation Collier <br />
Brides Surname SMITH <br />
Brides Forenames Elizabeth <br />
Brides Age 23 <br />
Brides Condition S[pinster] <br />
Brides Occupation  <br />
Brides Residence St. Stephen's Cinderford <br />
Brides Fathers Surname Smith <br />
Brides Fathers Forenames James <br />
Brides Fathers Occupation County Court Bailiff <span style="color:#f90;">[ Collery Bailiff ? -update Court Bailiff is correct]</span><br />
Licence or Banns Banns <br />
Date of Banns [not stated] <br />
Signature or Mark Both sign <br />
Witness 1 <span style="color:#f00;">James Smith</span> <br />
Witness 2 Eleanor Smith <br />
Other Witnesses  <br />
Officiating Minister W. H. M. Hancock <br />
Event Marriage <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P85/2 1N 1/6 <br />
Page Number 108 <br />
Parish Chapel Cinderford St Stephens</p>
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Year 1908 <br />
Month Aug <br />
Day 2 <br />
Parents Surname DAVIS <br />
Child Forenames Monica Primrose Eleanor Edith May <br />
Fathers Forenames Fred <br />
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Lower High Street <br />
Occupation Collier <br />
Officiating Minister W H M Hancock <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P85/2 IN 1/2 <br />
Page Number 54 <br />
Parish Chapel Cinderford St Stephens </p>
<p>Year 1910 <br />
Month Jul <br />
Day 28 <br />
Parents Surname DAVIS <br />
Child Forenames Frederick John <br />
Fathers Forenames Fred <br />
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Ruspidge <br />
Occupation Collier <br />
Officiating Minister J Martin Vicar <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P85/2 IN 1/2 <br />
Page Number 71 <br />
Parish Chapel Cinderford St Stephens </p>
<p>Year 1912 <br />
Month Jun <br />
Day 20 <br />
Parents Surname DAVIS <br />
Child Forenames Richard Ernest <br />
Fathers Forenames Fred <br />
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Bilson Green Cinderford <br />
Occupation Collier <br />
Officiating Minister J Martin Vicar <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P85/2 IN 1/2 <br />
Page Number 86 <br />
Parish Chapel Cinderford St Stephens </p>
<p>Year 1914 <br />
Month Mar <br />
Day 18 <br />
Parents Surname DAVIS <br />
Child Forenames Olive Elizabeth <br />
Fathers Forenames Fred <br />
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Bilson Green Cinderford <br />
Occupation Collier <br />
Officiating Minister J Martin Vicar <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P85/2 IN 1/2 <br />
Page Number 95 <br />
Parish Chapel Cinderford St Stephens </p>
<p>1911  Buckslaft Ruspidge , Cinderford, Glos<br />
Fred Davis 28 Ruspidge Miner married 5 years<br />
Elizabeth Davis 27 Littledean<br />
Monica Davis 2 Ruspidge<br />
John Davis 1 Ruspidge</p>
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1901 ? <br />
Elizabeth Smith  abt 1883  Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Servant  Bristol, </p>
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1901<br />
George Davis  abt 1842  Ellwood, Gloucestershire, England Head  East Dean,  <br />
Edith Davis  abt 1842  Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England [Head ] East Dean,  <br />
 John Davis  abt 1865  Ruspidge, Gloucestershire, England Son  East Dean,   <br />
 Richard Davis  abt 1882  Ruspidge Son  East Dean,   <br />
 Fred Davis abt 1883  Ruspidge Son  East Dean, </p>
<p>1891<br />
 George Davis  abt 1842 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
Edith Davis abt 1841 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 John Davis  abt 1865 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 James E Davis abt 1875 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Thomas S Davis  abt 1875 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Eveline Davis  abt 1879 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Richard Davis  abt 1881 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Fred Davis  abt 1882 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Louisa Davis  abt 1885 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  East Dean, Gloucestershire</p>
<p><br />
Year: 1882 <br />
Month: Apr <br />
Day: 2 <br />
Parents_Surname: DAVIS <br />
Child_Forenames: Fred <br />
Fathers_Forenames: George <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Edith <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Cinderford <br />
Occupation: Mine Bailiff <br />
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes Vicar <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Born Mar 8 1882 <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/2 <br />
Page_Number: 189 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns</p>
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>the correct SMITH family which is the Cissie link and hence Aunt </p>
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1901 Roughet Lane<br />
James Smith abt 1856 Liberton,[TIBBERTON] Gloucestershire, England Head Littledean, Gloucestershire Carter on Farm<br />
Elizabeth Smith abt 1858 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Littledean, Gloucestershire <br />
Cissie Smith abt 1884 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Littledean, Gloucestershire <br />
Gertrude Smith abt 1889 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Littledean, Gloucestershire</p>
<p>1891<br />
<span style="color:#f00;">James Smith</span> abt 1843 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head  Littledean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Elizabeth Smith  abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife  Littledean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 James Smith  abt 1876 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  Littledean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 George Smith  abt 1880 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son  Littledean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Elizabeth Smith  abt 1883 East Eean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  Littledean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Eliza Smith  abt 1884 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  Littledean, Gloucestershire <br />
Charlotte Smith  abt 1886 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  Littledean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Emma Smith  abt 1889 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  Littledean, Gloucestershire</p>
<p>1881 Roughet<br />
<span style="color:#f00;">James Smith </span> abt 1843 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head  Little Dean,   Iron Miner<br />
 Elizabeth Smith  abt 1847 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Wife  Little Dean,  <br />
 James Smith abt 1876 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Son  Little Dean, G <br />
 Ellen Smith  abt 1878 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  Little Dean,  <br />
 George Smith abt 1880 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Son  Little Dean, <br />
Eli Gardner  abt 1827 Collafield, Gloucestershire, England Visitor  Little Dean,</p>
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<title>St Whites - Cinderford (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>St Whites is that part of Cinderford leading down from Littledean Hill /Mount Pleasant towards Cinderford Bridge / Ruspidge</p>
<p>Not sure which house was The Laurels</p>
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><p>Name: Samuel Millard<br />
Name: Olive Beale <br />
Year of Registration: 1914 <br />
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec <br />
Spouse's Surname: Millard <br />
District: Westbury On Severn <br />
County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 624</p>
<p><br />
Name: Marcia P Millard <br />
Mother's Maiden Surname: Beale  <br />
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1928 <br />
Registration district: Mutford  <br />
Registration county: Essex, Suffolk  <br />
Volume Number: 4a  <br />
Page Number: 1769</p>
<p>Name: Marcia P Caldwell <br />
Mother's Maiden Surname: Beale  <br />
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1928 <br />
Registration district: Mutford  <br />
Registration county: Essex, Suffolk  <br />
Volume Number: 4a  <br />
Page Number: 1769</p>
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<title>Mrs F Davis - Cinderford</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I've located a Canadian Immigration Service manifest which lists Olive Millard (married name of Olive Elizabeth Smith), her daughters Marcia Patrica Millard and Maud Olive Millard are listed as passengers with her on the &quot;Doric&quot; departing Liverpool Aug 29th 1931 to Quebec 5 Sept 1931.</p>
<p>The manifest lists </p>
<p>Mrs F Davis - The Laurals, St Whites, Cinderford</p>
<p>as an aunt of (Name: Olive Elizabeth Smith<br />
Year of Registration: 1888<br />
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep<br />
District: Westbury On Severn<br />
County: Gloucestershire<br />
Volume: 6a<br />
Page: 241)</p>
<p>Can anyone tell me anything about F Davis, The Laurals or St Whites?</p>
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