Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Samuel ELTON 1791 - 1859 Littledean

Samuel ELTON 1791 - 1859 Littledean (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 29 May 2009 05:53:04 +0000

Year: 1824
Month: Apr
Day: 22
Grooms_Surname: ELTON
Grooms_Forenames: Samuel
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: GRINDELL
Brides_Forenames: Esther
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Elijah Elton
Witness_2: Martha Matloe[?]
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma[s R Garnsey
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

1841 Bilson
Samuel Elton abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Esther Elton abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
William Elton abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Tryphena Elton abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Isabella Elton abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Nahome Elton abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Susannah Elton abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851 Cinderford Woodside St Johns Parish
Samuel Etton abt 1792 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Naomi Etton abt 1832 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Susanna Etton abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1859
Month: Apr
Day: 1
Surname: ELTON
Forenames: Samuel
Residence: Deans Hill
Age_at_death: 67 Yrs
Officiating_Minister: J.G.Smythies
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 in 1/12
Page_No: 40
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns

William ELTON 1761 WoS (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 29 May 2009 05:38:26 +0000

this may be the ELTON line; a son Samuel might be a clue to a later generation

Year 1755
Month Aug
Day 10
Grooms Surname ELTON
Grooms Forenames William
Grooms Age
Groom Condition
Grooms Occupation
Grooms Residence Of this Parish
Grooms Fathers Surname
Grooms Fathers Forenames
Grooms Fathers Occupation
Brides Surname MARSHALL
Brides Forenames Mary
Brides Age
Brides Condition
Brides Occupation
Brides Residence Of this Parish
Brides Fathers Surname
Brides Fathers Forenames
Brides Fathers Occupation
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns
Signature or Mark Names entered by Minister
Witness 1 Sarah Turner
Witness 2 Toby Cowles
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister J. Lewis Minister
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P 354 IN 1/4
Page Number 5
Parish Chapel Westbury on Severn

Year 1761
Month May
Day 3
Parents Surname ELTON
Child Forenames William
Fathers Forenames William
Mothers Forenames Mary
Mothers Surname
Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda Son of
Notes Born in the Hundred of St Briavels
Register Reference P 354 IN 1/3
Page Number 10
Parish Chapel Westbury on Severn

1756 ELTON Jane William Mary Westbury on Severn
1758 ELTON Samuel William Mary Westbury on Severn

Ann ELTON (nee WALDING / WALDEN)1766-1821 Littledean (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 29 May 2009 04:16:32 +0000

Richards Mother ?
Year: 1766
Month: Mar
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: WALDEN
Child_Forenames: Ann
Fathers_Forenames: Nathan
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Little Dean
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Whetham Hill minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 28
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

Entry_Number: 175
Year: 1821
Month: May
Day: 22
Surname: ELTON
Forenames: Anne
Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Age_at_death: 55
Officiating_Minister: R. M. Manwaring Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death: [not sta
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/11
Page_No: 22
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

William ELTON 1759 - 1851 Littledean ? (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 29 May 2009 04:11:41 +0000

Looks like father to Richard 1797 and William 1786
1786 ELTON William William Ann [not stated] Littledean

1841 Upper Bilson, Cinderford
Willam Elton abt 1787 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Elton abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Willam Elton abt 1760 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851
William Elton abt 1786 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizebeth Elton abt 1789 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Elton abt 1760 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Father East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1851
Month: Jun
Day: 28
Surname: ELTON
Forenames: William
Residence: East Dean
Age_at_death: 92
Officiating_Minister: H[enr]y M. Willis
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/12
Page_No: 20
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

Year: 1856
Month: Oct
Day: 5
Surname: ELTON
Forenames: William
Residence: Upper Bilson
Age_at_death: 70 years
Officiating_Minister: H.G Nicholls
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes: Burial details O.Y.
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/11
Page_No: 141
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

link ? (reply)

lavinia hemingway — Fri, 29 May 2009 03:51:26 +0000

After other inofrmation I have received on the subject of Richard Elton it's looking as though the baptism record you sent to me is right. I will have to do a bit more investigating before I am definatley sure, so thank you very much.

Richard ELTON / Sarah JONES marriage 1823 Panteg (reply)

lavinia hemingway — Fri, 29 May 2009 03:34:49 +0000

I have seen this marriage of Richard ALTON to Sarah Jones before and I think it is a spelling error and that it is Richard ELTON not ALTON. I was looking at something else not long ago as well that said HELTON which I am sure is meant to be ELTON.

I think you could well be right about the marriage witness George Walden,or Waldin, everything seems to fit in. Now I am wondering if the other witness Elizabeth Jones could have been the mother or sister of Sarah Jones.

Richard ELTON / Sarah JONES marriage 1823 Panteg (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 28 May 2009 23:59:54 +0000

This is the correct area around Trevethin / Pontypool - Griffithstown / Sebastopol

Panteg Parish Record Transcripts

28 Sep 1823
Richd Alton, X, otp, batch
Sarah Jones, X, otp, spin
Wit:- Elizth Jones, X; Geo Waldin; Edward Thomas
Banns

< WALDIN witness ?? i wonder if the FoD link is here too, there are WALDIN/WALDEN born Trethevin around 1820 and similar in East Dean around 1820, and a Littledean WALDEN family around 1760 >

Richards Uncle and witness ?
Year: 1776
Month: Feb
Day: 18
Parents_Surname: WALDING
Child_Forenames: George
Fathers_Forenames: Nathaniel
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Little Dean
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Whetham Hill minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 33
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

the marriage of Nathan and Ann

Year: 1760
Month: Jul
Day: 6
Grooms_Surname: WALDEN
Grooms_Forenames: Nathaniel
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Parish of Little Dean in the County of Glo{u}ceste
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: READY
Brides_Forenames: Ann
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: 1760 May 25 Jun
Signature_or_Mark: He signs she marks
Witness_1: [illegible] Adams
Witness_2: W[illia]m James
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Whet[ha]m Hill Min[iste]r
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Groom signs: Nathan Walden
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/8
Page_Number: [9]
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

Richard Elton (reply)

lavinia hemingway — Thu, 28 May 2009 09:59:37 +0000

All I know about Sarah Jones is that she was born in Trevethin so he could be related to her. As for Caroline Elton, I have her married to:

1. Daniel James Money b.1826 London, m.1869 Pontypool with children as follows:

Edwin Augustus Money b.1851 Sowhill, Trevethin
Sarah Sophia Money b.1853 Limerick, Ireland

2. William Griffiths b.1824 Kemey's Commander, Cwwmbran

Thomas Griffiths b.1857
Richard Griffiths b.1858
John Griffiths c.1858
Joseph Griffiths c.1860
Samuel Griffiths b.1861
Caroline Maud Griffiths b.1873 - all born in Panteg

I know this is right as I have a few contacts related to the Elton family who have the same husbands for her but none of my shared contacts have managed to go further back than Richard Elton and Sarah Jones.

Thank you for all your help and everyone else who have contacted me today, I'm sure I will get to the bottom of it eventually. I never expected to get such a big response so soon.

Richard Elton (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 28 May 2009 07:24:52 +0000

Monmouthshire Parish Register Transcripts (on the net) under PANTEG

baptism of Ann, daughter of Richard and Sarah ELTON, Cwmynysgoy - MINER (22 May 1825) (is this the same Richard and Sarah ?)

Richard Elton (reply)

lavinia hemingway — Thu, 28 May 2009 06:41:44 +0000

Thank you for sending this, you have the right family. I am beginning to think that Richard was not born in Trevethin as I thought as it seems there was a Richard Elton born in Littledean with parents William Elton and Ann Flaxley as someone has kindly sent me this information along with 8 siblings. I just have to find a way of proving that this is right. He was living in Trevethin and working as an Iron Miner but could easily have been born in Littledean.

Richard Elton (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 28 May 2009 06:19:38 +0000

Monmouthshire Parish Record Transcripts (on the net)

has under TREVETHIN

baptisms

20/8/1837 Elijah ELTON - son of Richard and Sarah ELTON, TROSNANT - Miner, 7 weeks *

* on the 1841 census with Richard and Sarah ELTON, Elijah/Eliza is first listed as a male/then a female + a younger sibling Hanah aged 1

burials

4/3/1867 Hannah ELTON, 21 months, Albion Road

29/9/1885 - Sarah ELTON - 41 - Workhouse

no sign of any ELTON marriage or a Richard ELTON baptism in Trevethin

siblings to Richard ELTON 1797 Littledean (reply)

lavinia hemingway — Thu, 28 May 2009 05:49:12 +0000

I'm starting to get excited now after reading this because there surely is a possibility that it could be him. I've been trying such a long time to get back another generation that I am hoping it is him.

Richard ELTON 1796 - 1855 (reply)

lavinia hemingway — Thu, 28 May 2009 05:41:11 +0000

That's the one alright, his youngest daughter Margaret was my gr, grandmother. Do you think that he could possibly have not been born in Trevethin? I know that sometimes the census it not always correct.

siblings to Richard ELTON 1797 Littledean (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 28 May 2009 05:37:20 +0000

Year: 1784
Month: Aug
Day: 23
Grooms_Surname: ELTON
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: this Parish [Littledean]
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: WALDING
Brides_Forenames: Ann
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: this Parish [Littledean]
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: 1784 Aug 8 15 22
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of John Cooper
Witness_2: Anthony Cooper
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Benj[amin] Webb Min[iste]r
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 30
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

year surname first name parents parish
1785 ELTON Ann William Ann [not stated] Newnham
1786 ELTON William William Ann [not stated] Littledean
1789 ELTON David William Ann [not stated] Littledean
1791 ELTON Samuel William Ann Flaxley
1794 ELTON John William Ann [not stated] Littledean
1797 ELTON Richard William Ann [not stated] Littledean
1798 ELTON Mary William Ann [not stated] Littledean
1805 ELTON James William Ann Flaxley
1807 ELTON Sophia William Ann Flaxley

Richard ELTON 1796 - 1855 (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 28 May 2009 05:25:38 +0000

The 1841 gives a possibility that the Richard 1797 from Littledean is yours, but it needs further work to "claim" him :-) I cannot find the Littledean Richard in other census data, he may have died before 1841.

1841
Richard Elton abt 1800 [out of county] Llanvrechra, Monmouthshire
Sarah Elton abt 1804 Monmouthshire, Wales Llanvrechra, Monmouthshire
Eliza Elton abt 1822 Monmouthshire, Wales Llanvrechra, Monmouthshire
Anne Elton abt 1825 Monmouthshire, Wales Llanvrechra, Monmouthshire
Caroline Elton abt 1827 Monmouthshire, Wales Llanvrechra, Monmouthshire
Richard Elton abt 1834 Monmouthshire, Wales Llanvrechra, Monmouthshire

1851
Richard Elton abt 1796 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Sarah Elton abt 1808 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Richard Elton abt 1833 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Elizah Elton abt 1836 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Hannah Elton abt 1841 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Sarah Elton abt 1844 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Margaret Elton abt 1849 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Trevethin, Monmouthshire

Name: Richard Elton
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pontypool
County: Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 82

1861
Sarah Elton abt 1807 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Mother Wife Lord Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Sarah J Elton abt 1845 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Sister-in-law Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Margret Elton abt 1849 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Sister-in-law Trevethin, Monmouthshire

link ? (reply)

lavinia hemingway — Thu, 28 May 2009 05:23:47 +0000

I would like to think that was right Chris and I appreciate you sending it to me, but I have been on Ancestry.co.uk in the past and there is a record of him and his family which says that he was born in Trevethin where he lived with his family and was an Iron Miner.

As I can't seem to get any further back I thought that there may have been a possibility that his parents could have come from a different part of Wales, but as I don't have any names for them I will probably never find out.

link ? (reply)

lavinia hemingway — Thu, 28 May 2009 05:12:15 +0000

I have nothing to support this, but I was just hoping that I could find other siblings or his parents as I have tried everywhere else without any luck.

link ? (reply)

ChrisW — Thu, 28 May 2009 02:06:29 +0000

I wonder if this is him? I couldn't find a christening in Trevethin on IGI.

Record_ID: 185051
Entry_Number:
Year: 1797
Month: Feb
Day: 5
Parents_Surname: ELTON
Child_Forenames: Richard
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: [not stated]
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: [not stated]
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 7
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: E435

link ? (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 28 May 2009 00:26:42 +0000

I am hoping there may be other Elton's who were living in the Forest of Dean who may have been related to Richard as I can't get back any further than this.

Do you have any evidence to support this Hope ?
Why might their be a connection ?

Richard Elton

lavinia hemingway — Thu, 28 May 2009 00:23:08 +0000

I am a new member and I am looking for any connection to my ELTON family who lived in Trevethin. Richard Elton was born c.1796 Trevethin and married to Sarah Jones c.1808 Trevetihn. I am hoping there may be other Elton's who were living in the Forest of Dean who may have been related to Richard as I can't get back any further than this.