Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Harriet FROWEN 1855 ish Lydney

Harriet FROWEN 1855 ish Lydney (reply)

pclark — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:33:44 +0000

I am descended from the Shillam Line.

Alice Shillams' Grandfather John was the younger brother of Sarah Shillam my GGG Grandmother.

Pete

Harriet FROWEN 1855 ish Lydney (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:02:31 +0000

Its 3 children ( at least ! )

Harriet FROWEN 1855 ish Lydney (reply)

rolymo — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:49:04 +0000

cheers slowhands - that was another lead i was tracking too !! looks like she mooved and had 2 more children -still not married tho ?
this looks like quite an interesting family line to follow - as there may be relatives that my mother (fredericks granddaughter )does not know about.

Frederick Albert FROWEN 1871 -1958 Woolaston (reply)

rolymo — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:43:12 +0000

which part of the family are you researching / related to ? - i am currently researching frederick as he was my gt grandfather -his daughter annis mary was my gran

Harriet FROWEN 1855 ish Lydney (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:41:47 +0000

Name: Harriet Frowen ???
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 62
District: Ledbury
County: Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 353

1901
Harriet Frowen abt 1852 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Head Ledbury, Herefordshire Single
Fanny Frowen abt 1887 Ledbury, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ledbury, Herefordshire

1891
Harriet Frowen abt 1858 Ledbury, Herefordshire, England Head Ledbury, Herefordshire Single
Florence Frowen abt 1883 Ledbury, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ledbury, Herefordshire
Fanny Frowen abt 1888 Ledbury, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ledbury, Herefordshire

Name: Florence Frowen
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Ledbury
County: Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 475

Name: Fanny Frowen
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Ledbury
County: Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 447

1881
Harriet Trower abt 1856 Sydney, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Ledbury, Herefordshire
Ernest Trower abt 1878 Gloucestershire, England Lodger Ledbury, Herefordshire

Name: Ernest George Frowen ??
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Gloucester (1837-1937)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 319

Frederick Albert FROWEN 1871 -1958 Woolaston (reply)

pclark — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:31:51 +0000

Its the 2nd story of such a thing happening in the tree.

Pete

Frederick Albert FROWEN 1871 -1958 Woolaston (reply)

rolymo — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:55:42 +0000

ahhh....i thought harriet may of been his mother, as she was the right age and dissapears !!
so he was born in the workhouse-then taken on by his grandparents ? that is so sad. especially as i think that harriets mother was pregnant when she married her father !!

Frederick Albert FROWEN 1871 -1958 Woolaston (reply)

pclark — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:50:38 +0000

1871 Census as Slowhands has put I would say confirms her to be the mother. Although a birth certificate would confirm it for sure

Pete

Frederick Albert FROWEN 1871 -1958 Woolaston (reply)

pclark — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:23:17 +0000

See this I would say this was him

Chepstow Union Workhouse Births 1866 - 1914

26-Jun 1871 Harriet Frowen(Mother) Woolastone Blank Blank Blank Illegitimate/male

The blanks refer to the name of the child.

Pete

Frederick Albert FROWEN 1871 -1958 Woolaston (reply)

pclark — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:07:56 +0000

On the marriage it shows grooms age as 26 If he was born in 1871 and married in 1910 he should be 39?

Pete

Frederick Albert FROWEN 1871 -1958 Woolaston (reply)

pclark — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:11:20 +0000

They are part of my tree

Pete

Frederick Albert FROWEN 1871 -1958 Woolaston (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:02:24 +0000

Name: Frederick Albert Frowen
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Chepstow
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 10

Year: 1910
Month: Jun
Day: 29
Grooms_Surname: FROWEN
Grooms_Forenames: Frederick Albert
Grooms_Age: 26
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Platelayer
Grooms_Residence: Woolaston
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Frowen
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: SHILLAM
Brides_Forenames: Alice Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 35
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Aylburton
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Shillam
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: (George) John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Shoemaker
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Herbert Shillam
Witness_2: Edith Minnie Shillam
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Willis F A Lambert
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: the correction is initialled WFAL
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 183
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

This Henry could be his grandfather or "Harry"

Year: 1958
Month: Aug
Day: 23
Surname: FROWEN
Forenames: Frederick Albert
Residence: Woodside Woolaston
Age_at_death: 87
Officiating_Minister: T C P Gould rect Shrawley
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/18
Page_No: 147
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

His "grandparents ETC"
1871
Henry Frowen abt 1826 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Head Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Mary Frowen abt 1831 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Harriet Frowen abt 1853 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Harrey Frowen abt 1856 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston, Gloucestershire
William Frowen abt 1861 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Hannah Frowen abt 1864 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston, Gloucestershire

1861
Henry Frowers abt 1829 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Head Woollaston, Gloucestershire
Mary Frowers abt 1831 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Woollaston, Gloucestershire
Harriett Frowers abt 1853 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woollaston, Gloucestershire
Harry Frowers abt 1856 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woollaston, Gloucestershire
William Frowers abt 1860 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woollaston, Gloucestershire

Frederick FROWEN born 1871 Woolaston

rolymo — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:55:01 +0000

i am trying to find the parents of Frederick Frowen - born 1871 -woolaston,

i have found him in the 1881 census living in woolaston with his grandparents mary and henry and their children,

i have also found him in 1891 again with his grandmother (now widowed) and grans daughter lizzie (elizabeth) in woolaston

he crops up in 1901 this time with his aunt lizzy (elizabeth) and her husband albert biggs with their children -again in woolaston also there is an edith there born 1890. his gran died in 1896 -explaining him living with his aunt.

i can find no record of his birth -and no record of him before 1881 - and i am trying to find out who his parents were -and why he was living with his grandparents?

i have him marrying alice shillam jun 1910.

anyone able to offer any advice ?