Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Harriet Cooper

Harriet Cooper (reply)

mcdonald74 — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:56:47 +0000

Am i right in thinking the Buck family would be living next door or are they somehow related to the Coopers?

Harriet Cooper (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:26:11 +0000

Looking at the 1851 census - with Harriot and her brother Thomas + Edward Aston (visiting), born Newland, and Mary Aston - born West Dean.

Next door to them is their brother

William COOPER - age 34, Charcoal Carrier
Mary Ann - age 25 - born Bicknor
Mary Jane - age 3 - born West Dean
Sarah Ann - Age 1 - born West Dean

Sophia BUCK, Nursemaid - age 10 - born Bicknor
Richard Burgan? - Servant - age 12 - born Bicknor
Jane BUCK, Visitor,unmarried- age 17 tinplate cleaner, born Little Marston

Harriet Cooper (reply)

shepway — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:22:25 +0000

This appears to be Harriet in the 1851 Census (GFHS transcript)
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
2444 0360 043 Anchorberry COOPER Thomas HD U 26 Labourer GLS Angerbuary [Hangerbury]
2444 0360 043 Anchorberry ASTON Edward VR M 62 Coal Miner [GLS] Newland
2444 0360 043 Anchorberry ASTON Mary VR M 62 - [GLS] West Dean
2444 0360 043 Anchorberry COOPER Harriot DA - 18 Chair Woman [GLS] Angerbuary [Hangerbury]

and the baptisms of Harriet and brother Thomas:
Year: 1833
Month: Jun
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: COOPER
Child_Forenames: Harriet
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Angerbury (Extraparochial)
Occupation: Coal-carrier
Officiating_Minister: J.A.Harrison Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P138 in 1/5
Page_Number: 50
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

Year: 1825
Month: Jul
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: COOPER
Child_Forenames: Thomas
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Angerbury
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: T Marwood Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P138 in 1/5
Page_Number: 35
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

This tells us that parents are Thomas and Mary.
Cannot find Thomas in 1851 Census so we look for a burial and find this one:
Year: 1837
Month: Dec
Day: 25
Surname: COOPER
Forenames: Thomas
Residence: Angerbury
Age_at_death: 54
Officiating_Minister: Edward Field Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: from 1813
Page_No: 62
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

and a marriage for Mary COOPER:
Year: 1840
Month: May
Day: 9
Grooms_Surname: ASTON
Grooms_Forenames: Edward
Grooms_Age: 52
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Coalminer
Grooms_Residence: Ancrebury Forest of Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: ASTON
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Benjamin
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Woodman
Brides_Surname: COOPER
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age: 49
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: The same
Brides_Fathers_Surname: JONES
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Coal-miner
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Tho[ma]s Hawkins Coleford Lane Inn
Witness_2: Nancy Hawkins Coleford Lane Inn
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: George Cox Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 6
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

So Thomas and Harriet are living with mother and stepfather at time of 1851 Census.

and this would appear to be parents marriage:
Year: 1811
Month: Sep
Day: 12
Grooms_Surname: COOPER
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: [not stated]
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: living on land adjoining this Parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: JONES
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age: [not stated]
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: living on land adjoining this Parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [no register found]
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: William Jones
Witness_2: Ann Symons
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Prosser
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P138 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 78
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

Hangerbury is in Lydbrook. Lydbrook Parish Church opened in 1851 and nearest parish church to Hangerbury beforehand would be English Bicknor.

Mike

Harriet Cooper (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:28:25 +0000

To find out where Harriet was born (on her marriage, Thomas (father) occupation Labourer) - Looking at the 1861 Census, Cornelius & Harriet MASON are in Ruardean (District 7 Page 20) - all the family 'say' they were born in Ruardean

Cornelius - 32 (Stonemason)
Harriet - 28
John - 7
Thomas - 4
Dinah - 2

Possible ?
On the 1841 Census, for Dean Forest Ross, District 12a Page 6 - Anchorbury
(Monmouth - Coleford) - also listed on the FOD records (Submenu) census index

Wm COOPER age 25 - Carrier (christened EB 1816- father Thomas, Labourer)
Sarah - 20 (christened English Bicknor 1818)
Mary - 20 (christened EB 1820)
Thomas - 15 (christened EB 1825)
Hannah - 12 (christened EB 1828)
Harriot - 8 (christened 16 June 1833 EB)

On FOD records, parents Thomas & Mary

Ruardean is about 3 miles from English Bicknor

Harriet Cooper (reply)

mcdonald74 — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:12:29 +0000

hi there im hoping one of the readers maybe help me to trace Harriet Coopers lineage thanks to the feedback on the site ive discovered she married Cornelius Mason in 1853 and her Father was a Thomas Cooper would anyone know anything about Thomas who he married and his Mother?Father etc? Many Thanks Duncan

Mason/Cooper (reply)

jimashton — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:35:29 +0000

I'm sorry, I should have explained more clearly.

As has been noted from the marriage details for Cornelius Mason & Harriett Cooper, his father was John Mason baptised 23 Oct 1808, this is also confirmed by the 1841 Census entry added by Slowhands (which I didn't have). Not shown here is that his mother was Diana Ford who married John Mason 4 Mar 1835 at Ruardean.

John Mason 1808 was the son of George Mason B. 1765 & Mary Tippins B. 1765, married 7 November 1787 Ruardean. They had 8 children including John as above, also Thomas Mason B. 1804 who married Zilpah Chivers, they had 7 children including Noah B. 1837.

if you are descended from Noah, then we too are related. I only have details of one more generation for 3 of their 10 children; Jacob, Thomas & Joseph and would be interested in more details if you could contact me via my email address, using the envelope icon.

My interest in this line is that Mary Tippins 1765 was the daughter of William Tippins 1744 and Sarah Wilce 1745, Sarah Wilce 1745 being the daughter of Thomas Wilce 1707 & Susannah Marfell 1706.

It will be of interest to you to search the Forum for Winifred Foley. She is descended from Nathanial Mason 1798, also a son of George Mason 1765 & Mary Tippins.

Jim Ashton

Mason/Cooper (reply)

mcdonald74 — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:55:12 +0000

i must of read the post wrong so they are cousins,Noah Mason was my Great Grand mothers Grandfather so i must be loosely related to Cornellius as well

Mason/Cooper (reply)

jimashton — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:38:48 +0000

Cornelius & Noah Mason are both in my family tree, they are first cousins.

Both are related to me as 6th cousins 3 times removed.

I have as usual however gained additional information as supplied by Slowhands.

Jim Ashton

MASON COOPER marriages (reply)

mcdonald74 — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:32:37 +0000

Thanks for that slowhands i see that Cornellius was Noahs uncle then and that Harriets Father was a Thomas Cooper thats brilliant now i can try and look up the Coopers many thanks Duncan

MASON COOPER marriages (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:23:08 +0000

1841
John Mason abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Mason abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Cornelius Mason abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
James Mason abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Mason abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire

1851
Cornelius Mason abt 1832 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Year: 1853
Month: Oct
Day: 24
Grooms_Surname: MASON
Grooms_Forenames: Cornelius
Grooms_Age: 21
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Stone Mason
Grooms_Residence: Coalway Lane End
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Mason
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Stone Mason
Brides_Surname: COOPER
Brides_Forenames: Harriet
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Coalway Lane End
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Cooper
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks; she signs
Witness_1: Thomas Wilcox
Witness_2: Harriet Wilcox
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Hawksley Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/13
Page_Number: 42
Parish_Chapel: Newland

<< << << << Thomas MASON relationship to John MASON ?

Year: 1828
Month: Feb
Day: 2
Grooms_Surname: MASON
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: [not
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: CHIVERS
Brides_Forenames: Zilpah
Brides_Age: [not
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Joseph Chivers
Witness_2: Mary Herbert
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Berkin A M Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Bride signs: Zilpah Chives
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 22
Parish_Chapel: Hope Mansell

1841
Lilpah Mason abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Ann Mason abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Joshan Mason abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Amelia Mason abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Noah Mason abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851
Zilpha Mason abt 1811 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Noah Mason abt 1837 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Mason abt 1841 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1860
Month: Jun
Day: 17
Grooms_Surname: MASON
Grooms_Forenames: Noah
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Parish of East Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: BARNARD
Brides_Forenames: Charlotte
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Parish of East Dean
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns:
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark:
Witness_1:
Witness_2:
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Joseph Lander
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: D6026 8/1
Page_Number: 76
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean Congregational

Mason/Cooper (reply)

mcdonald74 — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:17:25 +0000

Sorry about that Cornelius Mason married Harriett Cooper i beleave in 1832 in Ruardean( i think?)Noah Mason married Charlotte Barnard around 1850ish,im just trying to work out as i say maybe that the 2 are related?

Mason/Cooper (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:50:53 +0000

Some dates / locations would help - please :-)

Mason/Cooper

mcdonald74 — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:40:00 +0000

Firstly many thanks to everyone who has sent me info on the forums about my Family it really is much appreciated.I have another query if anyone can help does anyone know if the Cornelius Mason who was married to Harriet Cooper was anyway related to Noah Mason? I earlier posted there was rumour in my Family that the Masons married into a Romany family once and this has been told to me again recently and that there wasa Cooper romany family in the Forest of Dean area maybe this could be the link?