Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Briscoe's

Briscoe's (reply)

jimashton — Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:59:46 +0000

I would be interested in the information you have and will send an email via the link.

A descendant - of sorts - via a complex relationship Briscoe/Thomas/Mountjoy, Owen Robinson Briscoe born 4 Dec 1889, son of Elizabeth Sophia Mountjoy Thomas 1855, married my Great Aunt Bernice Lily Marfell 1890 in the Register Office Westbury on Severn 3 Feb 1904. They were on Hazel Hill on the 1911 Census but moved to South Wales, Owen and his wife Bernice were both buried in Abertillery.

Regarding the complex relationship; I have the birth and marriage certificates for Owen - Owen Robinson Thomas on the Birth certificate, Owen Robinson Briscoe on the Marriage certificate.

Elizabeth Sophia Mountjoy Thomas 1855 was the daughter of John Thomas 1827 and Mary Ann Mountjoy 1817, they married 7 Jun 1853. Following the death of John Thomas circa 1861, Mary Ann Thomas nee Mountjoy married William Briscoe 1825 on 21 Oct 1861.

It is thought a possibility that the father of the 9 children of Elizabeth Sophia Mountjoy Thomas 1855 was William Briscoe 1825, they were all born with the surname Thomas but changed their names to Briscoe.

Jim Ashton

Briscoe's (reply)

Hartspen — Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:43:27 +0000

Hello

May be of no use to you but I am also descendant of Wlliam and Johanna and then William and Sophia --- I have traced that particular line through to South Wales (and my own grandmother who was a Briscoe).. if of interest I can provide relevant details.

BRISCOE - MOUNTJOY / Sallow Valletts prior thread (reply)

grbriscoe — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:06:48 +0000

It took many months and lots of hard work but Elizabeth Sophia Thomas who then became Elizabeth Sophia Briscoe born 1880 and married a Frederick Meek in 1897 and thus became Elizabeth Sophia Meek emigrated to New Zealand in 1920 with her son Leslie John Randolph Meek aged 17. After searching the New Zealand archives it says he became a school headmaster and retired in 1971. No date of death for him. On the 1911 census they are living in Quabbs Lane Drybrook. There is Frederick Meek (35), Elizabeth Sophia Meek (31), William Frederick Howard Meek (13) and Leslie John Randolph Meek (9) and when she emigrated 9 years later she just went with the youngest boy. No sign of the husband or the oldest boy. Can't find UK death records for them either. I am guessing that they both died in WW1 but after many searches of WW1 records I can't find either so it is purely a guess.

William BRISCOE 1795 - 1860 (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:07:34 +0000

probably Littledean St Ethlebert
He was at Littledean Lodge in the 1841 census - probably known as Chestnuts lodge now.

1851 near Latimer Lodge
William Burcar abt 1795 Kilkeney, Ireland Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Joanna Burcar abt 1810 Kilkeney, Ireland Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry Burcar abt 1827 Kilkeney, Ireland Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Richard Burcar abt 1828 Kilkeney, Ireland Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Catherine Burcar abt 1835 Kilkeney, Ireland Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Burcar abt 1837 Kilkeney, Ireland Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane Burcar abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Joanna Burcar abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Burcar abt 1844 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1860
Month: Mar
Day: 20
Surname: BRIVEOC
Forenames: William
Residence: East Dean
Age_at_death: 65
Officiating_Minister: John J. Hedges
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes: In this record a surname was not clear so the best guess was given
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/12
Page_No: 43
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

BRISCOE - MOUNTJOY ( MEEK ) (reply)

ghbriscoe — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:46:06 +0000

Many thanks for the info slow hands

The William you mentioned however is the William (b1825) not the William (b1795) who married Johanna Aylward. As Johanna was buried in St John's I would assume her husband would be also but I was hoping for confirmation.

Cheers anyway!!

BRISCOE - MOUNTJOY ( MEEK ) (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:11:48 +0000

1901 Hawthorns
Fredk Meeks abt 1876 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Hope Mansel Herefordshire
Elizabeth S Meeks abt 1880 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife Hope Mansel Herefordshire

1911
MEEK FREDERICK M 1876 35 Ross Herefordshire
MEEK ELIZABETH SOPHIA F 1880 31 Ross Herefordshire
MEEK LESLIE JOHN RANDOLPH M 1902 9 Ross Herefordshire
MEEK WILLIAM FREDERICK HOWARD M 1898 13 Ross Herefordshire

so we have a long drawn out process after this point as the 1921 census is not published - we may find some hints in the BMD index

Yes its this church
St John the Evangelist, Cinderford http://www.stjohnscinderford.org/page8.html

Year: 1878
Month: Oct
Day: 18
Surname: BRISCOE
Forenames: Johanna
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 75
Officiating_Minister: G.A. Allan Rector of Puckington
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/13
Page_No: 91
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns

This looks like your William
buried at the Forest Church http://www.forestchurch.org.uk/

Year: 1897
Month: Mar
Day: 20
Surname: BRISCOE
Forenames: William
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Age_at_death: 71
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/13
Page_No: 106
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

BRISCOE - MOUNTJOY / Sallow Valletts prior thread (reply)

ghbriscoe — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:48:04 +0000

Cheers Slow hands.

Do you have any info on Frederick Meek and Elizabeth Thomas/Briscoe his wife. Can't find their deaths anywhere.

We visited the Forest last week and saw Sallow Vallets Lodge and also Hawthorns. It says Johanna Briscoe was buried in St John's Cinderford. As I'm not familiar with the area would this be St John's the Evangelist does anyone know? Also does anyone know where the William Briscoe (Johanna's husband) is buried?

BRISCOE - MOUNTJOY / Sallow Valletts prior thread (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:45:36 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=1087

Sallow Vallets

New Regard Number 19
Page 10
" Also known as Longhill Lodge .. situated near Worral Hill..... built 1811, once home of William Briscoe... it is now privately owned"
( photograph Wm. J Mountjoy)

http://79.170.40.163/forestofdeanhistory.org.uk/LHSpublications.html

Briscoe's

ghbriscoe — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:08:06 +0000

Hi all - new to this site. What a fantastic site it is.

My family dates back to the Forest of Dean. My great grandfather (paternal) is William Briscoe (registered as William Thomas at birth). His mother was Elizabeth Sophia Mountjoy Thomas and as far as we can gather his father was William Briscoe (b1825) from Kilkenny. We have done a lot of research and also obtained many certificates.

I am just wondering if anyone has any new information other than what is already on here. In particular I am surprised that there does not appear to be any photos of any of them. As many of them were forest keepers I would have thought that more photos would be available. Is there anyone out there who has any photos of this family?

Also my great grandfather William moved in with Frederick Meek after his parents died and I am wondering what became of Frederick and Elizabeth? Did they move away as I can not find any records for their deaths in the Forest area.

Any info would be gratefully received.