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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UB 54<br />
Type UB III  <br />
Shipyard A.G. Weser, Bremen (Werk 266)  <br />
Ordered 20 May 1916  Laid down 5 Sep 1916 <br />
Launched 18 Apr 1917  Commissioned 12 Jun 1917 <br />
Commanders 12 Jun 1917 - 7 Feb 1918  Egon von Werner <br />
 8 Feb 1918 - 31 Mar 1918  Erich Hecht <br />
Career 6 patrols  <br />
 8 Aug 1917 - 31 Mar 1918 Flandern Flotilla<br />
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Successes 14 ships sunk for a total of 7.200 tons.   <br />
Fate 1 Mar 1918 - Sailed on March 1, 1918 for patrol off Portland area and was never heard from again. 29 dead (all hands lost).   </p>
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Ships hit by UB 54<br />
Date U-boat Commander Name of ship Tons Nat.  <br />
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20 Aug 1917 UB 54 Egon von Werner Vala 1,016 BR￼  <br />
25 Aug 1917 UB 54 Egon von Werner Frigga 1,046 NW  <br />
13 Dec 1917 UB 54 Egon von Werner Chili 1,318 FR  <br />
20 Dec 1917 UB 54 Egon von Werner Noris 583 NW  <br />
21 Dec 1917 UB 54 Egon von Werner Orne 928 FR  <br />
23 Dec 1917 UB 54 Egon von Werner Ragna 1,747 NW  <br />
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27 Jan 1918 UB 54 Egon von Werner Nr. 14 26 BEL  <br />
29 Jan 1918 UB 54 Egon von Werner De Julia 13 BEL  <br />
29 Jan 1918 UB 54 Egon von Werner De Twee Marcels 13 BEL￼  <br />
29 Jan 1918 UB 54 Egon von Werner H. Debra Huysseme 46 BEL￼  <br />
29 Jan 1918 UB 54 Egon von Werner Jean Mathilde 12 BEL￼  <br />
29 Jan 1918 UB 54 Egon von Werner Le Jeune Arthur 25 BEL￼  <br />
29 Jan 1918 UB 54 Egon von Werner Marie 16 BEL￼  <br />
30 Jan 1918 UB 54 Egon von Werner Ferryhill 411 BR  <br />
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    7,200   <br />
14 ships sunk (7,200 tons).       </p>
<p>Vala<br />
Name Vala<br />
Type Q ship<br />
GRT 1.016 tons<br />
Country ￼British<br />
Built 1894<br />
Builder Ramage &amp; Ferguson, Ltd., Leith<br />
Operator Royal Navy<br />
History Peace-time operator: J. T. Salvesen &amp; Co., Grangemouth</p>
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U-boat attacks on Q ship Vala</p>
<p> Date U-boat Loss type Position Location Route Cargo Casualties<br />
1 20 Aug 1917 UB 54 (Egon von Werner) Sunk 120 miles SW of Scilly Island<br />
 48.37N, 09.28W<br />
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 43</p>
<p> Q ship Q.8<br />
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<p>Egon von Werner<br />
Oberleutnant zur See (Crew 4/08)<br />
Successes<br />
68 ships sunk for a total of 60.918 GRT<br />
1 warship sunk for a total of 320 tons<br />
10 ships damaged for a total of 53.071 GRT</p>
<p><br />
Born: 31 Dec 1888  Sigmaringen (Baden-Württemberg) <br />
Dead: 23 Jun 1955  Sigmaringen (Baden-Württemberg) </p>
<p><br />
U-boat Commands<br />
UC 1 7 May 1915 -  13 Apr 1916<br />
UC 16 26 Jun 1916 -  22 Apr 1917<br />
UB 54 12 Jun 1917 -  7 Feb 1918<br />
UB 111 5 Apr 1918 -  11 Nov 1918</p>
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Built in 1894 by Ramage &amp; Ferguson Ltd. of Leith, the Q-Ship Vala was a former rather slow Collier vessel with a tonnage of 1,016 GT, and was later armed with four 12-pounder guns and two 6-pounders. After as many as seven close encounters with enemy U-Boats, she was sunk in the Bay of Biscay by the German submarine U54 under the command of Egon von Werner on the 20th of August 1917. Perhaps having inadvertently aroused some suspicion, having been recognised, or perhaps simply through a judicious use of caution, the Vala was sunk by torpedo with 43 casualties, including Lieutenant Mark Norman Rennie.<br />
The German captain announced on the 8th of September , 1917 in a radio broadcast from Berlin, that ‘…the English U-Boat trap, Q-8, the former steamer Vala, an unknown steamer of about 4000 tons, from appearance, and judging by the arms and searchlight carried and the uniform of the crew, was an auxiliary cruiser’. Once the Vala was overdue, the Q-Ship Heather was sent to look for her, but found no trace of ship or crew</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SERVICE NO. J/47206<br />
ABLE SEAMAN RAYNOR HENRY LEONARD CHARLES<br />
H.M.S VALA ROYAL NAVY<br />
Baptised 9th October 1896<br />
Died 21st August 1917<br />
Age 20<br />
Son of Mr and Mrs Leonard Charles of Aylburton<br />
H.M.S VALA  displacement 1016 tons was a special service Q boat sunk by UB54 in the Atlantic. The last known position was Lat 48.37N Long 9.32W</p>
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Pete</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry great great uncles son!</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you everyone, that is another puzzled solved.  I have looked on the Commonwealth War Graves Commision websie and found Raynor Charles, he was my great uncles son, so a cousin of sort - I think.<br />
Rosemarie</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raynor Henry Leonard Charles was the son of Leonard George Charles (1868) and Matilda Howells, his Great Grandparents being James Charles and Tamar Pritchard through their eldest son William James Charles.  </p>
<p>Raynor was a Seaman during the 1st World War on the ship HMS Vala and is remembered on the Plymouth Naval Memorial.   I hadn't realised he was also on a local memorial.    Details of his death can be found on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website.</p>
<p>His sevice number was J/47206 and the next time I get to Kew I will see if I can find his service history.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Val</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris has given you the Baptism</p>
<p>here is the Birth reg. ref.</p>
<p>Name: Henry Charles <br />
Year of Registration: 1859 <br />
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun <br />
District: Chepstow <br />
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire <br />
Volume: 11a <br />
Page: 18</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>There is a Raynor Henry Charles on the Aylburton WW1 War memorial.<br />
Maybe a family relative?</p>
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Pete</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's Emma and Thomas GRIFFIN </p>
<p>1871 Census, Glos, Flaxley, District 33a, Page 10<br />
43 Woodside Road</p>
<p>Thomas - 37 - Collier - born L/Dean<br />
Emma - 33 - Aylburton<br />
Emily H - 5 - Cinderford - E<em>mily Hannah - 11 March 1866, Cinderford St John</em><br />
Charles W - 3 - Cinderford - <em>Charles William - 25 June 1871, Cinderford St John</em><br />
Wm H - 1 - Cinderford - <em>William Henry - 25 June 1871, Cinderford St John</em><br />
Edith - under 1 month - born Cinderford - <em>Edith Melinda - 25 June 1871 Cinderford St John</em><br />
Mary GRIFFIN - Mother age 68, born Newent</p>
<p>Obviously, Emma and Thomas had their 3 youngest children baptised on the same day - which was a Sunday, <em>looking on the net at the 1871 Calendar.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.hf.rim.or.jp/~kaji/cal/cal.cgi?1871">www.hf.rim.or.jp/~kaji/cal/cal.cgi?1871</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Yes it looks like it, Henry must have been born before she was married.<br />
Thanks for your help<br />
Rose</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can only assume from Chris' reply - he may be Emma's Son.</p>
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Henry CHARLES age 9 buried 23 June 1868, Lydney (Residence Aylburton)</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Thanks for that, but still not sure who the parents were....</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1841 Census, Lydney, District 2, Page 7</p>
<p>James CHARLES - 35 - Ag Lab - Y<br />
Tamar - 30<br />
William - 5<br />
James - 2<br />
Emma - 5 months</p>
<p>1851 Census, Aylburton, District 4 Page 11</p>
<p>James CHARLES - 44 - born Aylburton<br />
Tamar - 49 - Awre<br />
William - 14<br />
James - 12<br />
Emma - 10<br />
Mary - 7 <br />
George -1</p>
<p>All children born Aylburton</p>
<p>1861 Census, Aylburton, District 2, Page 4</p>
<p>James CHARLES - 56, Coalhewer, born Aylburton<br />
Tamar - 40 - Blakeney<br />
Emma - 21 - Aylburton<br />
George -11 - Aylburton<br />
Henry - Grandson age 1 - Aylburton</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Thanks for the very quick reply.  <br />
If it is the same Emma as I have she would have had Henry when she was about 17 and unmarried as far as my records go, as I have DOB as March 1841 and her marriage to Thomas Griffin in 1864.  But of course I might be completely wrong.</p>
<p>Thanks for your help<br />
Rose</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rose</p>
<p>I wonder if this is the other Henry?</p>
<p>Record_ID: 39183 <br />
Entry_Number: 417 <br />
Year: 1859 <br />
Month: Jul <br />
Day: 7 <br />
Parents_Surname: CHARLES <br />
Child_Forenames: Henry <br />
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated] <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Emma <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Aylburton <br />
Occupation: Servant <br />
Officiating_Minister: George Cholmondeley Curate <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: illegitimate son <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: PFC209 IN 1/5 <br />
Page_Number: 53 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney <br />
Soundex: C642</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I am new to this and was hoping for some help.<br />
On looking through the inquests on this very useful website I found 2 Henry Charles, who died in 1868.  The Henry who died when he was 3 I aready know about, but there is also a Henry who drowned aged 10 (DOB about 1858).  He has the same grandparents as the other Henry, but I cannot find out where he fits in.  He is on the 1861 census living with his grandparents James and Tamar Charles in Aylburton, gloucestershire.  I am not sure if his parents were James and Louisa as they both died the same year, but a few months earlier.<br />
Thanks for any help anyone can give.<br />
Rose</p>
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