Forest of Dean FHT Forum - A. Ellis living at Bank St. Coleford 1907

A. Ellis living at Bank St. Coleford 1907 (reply)

rookancestrybest — Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:52:00 +0000

That makes you my cousin four times removed! I only have the two post cards, the front of which are the old photographs of Coleford I posted on this site. They were sent to Loui/Louisa Jane Rook who was my great-great Auntie. Her photograph has already been posted on this site in the photographs section along with that of May Gwendoline Pritchard. Do you know who Cousin Zita Pritchard was? I have a very tiny picture of her which might not scan well but if you want it I can try to do it for you. I have now scanned both sides for you and will work out how to send them by e-mail in a few moments as I think there's a way without needing to post your e-mail address on here!

A. Ellis living at Bank St. Coleford 1907 (reply)

nigel — Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:47:49 +0000

Arthur William Morgan Prichard married Mary Teresa Rooke (bmd Sept 1872 Aston 6d 548). They had six children Fanny, Joseph, Wilfrid Augustine, Arthur, David Thomas and May Gwendoline. Arthur, David Thomas and Joseph all died in WW1 1915, 1916 and 1917.

Wilfrid married Caroline Elizabeth Esther Ann Ellis (known as Annie) and after losing their first child went on to have a daughter Florence Mary and son Kenneth Arthur William.

I would grateful if you could send me a copy of any correspondence/photos you may have relating to Wilfred and Annie and Arthur and Mary or the originals if you don’t need them as I am Kenneth’s son (Wilfred’s Grandson).

Morgans (reply)

rookancestrybest — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:39:52 +0000

I have never managed to find how the Morgans were related but I think my Morgans were of an earlier generation. The problem is that researching Morgan in that part of Britain is almost as difficult as Smith and Brown due to the sheer numbers involved!!! My mother always said that there were people called Morgan in the family, one of whom she said had an M.A. from Oxford. She said it was Henry. She also used to speak of Fanny Morgan. Slowhands once found some info. on the latter but I could find no links with my own family apart from them living close by. However, I have found a scrap of paper in the last three and a half years with Thomas Morgan's name written on it, in copperplate handwriting with the date Sept. 8th [or 6th?]1854 and Culham College, Oxon. after it (there is some geometry on the back of it in the same handwriting). Culham College was a teacher training college then and seems to be an institute for religious studies now.
This does not necessarily rule out your Morgans. I have found that the Forest of Dean was a very small close community and it is possible that people are related in more complex ways e.g. my great-great grandmother married her stepfather's brother and it is also possible that the Addams family married into the Rooke family in two different generations too.

Thank you again for pointing me in the correct direction - (reply)

rookancestrybest — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:09:32 +0000

Again everyone's help on this is much appreciated.
I agree with Slowhands as there is a Wilfred Pritchard who I have as the son of Arthur Pritchard and Mary Teresa (nee Rooke). Caroline E.A. Ellis is therefore likely to be the wife and to have called herself by one of her middle names, as the cards were sent the year before they married they would probably have been engaged then which explains it all. I think I'll go with Wilfrid A Pritchard as I had him on my family tree as Wilfred A or N Pritchard. I know that May Gwendoline Pritchard and Zita were also both related to Arthur, the former being his sister and the latter being either his sister or cousin, I have photographs of both of these so I think you've solved the mystery for me.
P.S. I had somehow overlooked this Wilfred when I had scanned my family tree for Wilfreds to see if there were any to fit the bill!

A. Ellis living at Bank St. Coleford 1907 (reply)

Nick Morgan — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:32:14 +0000

I notice you mention the name Morgan, in my family tree I have an Elsie Morgan who married a Harold Pritchard they had a son James born 1935 is this of any help

Annie PRITCHARD nee ELLIS living at Bank St. Coleford 1907 (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:40:01 +0000

looks more likely !

A. Ellis living at Bank St. Coleford 1907 (reply)

pamclark — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:38:16 +0000

I am wondering if this could be the link?
1911 census Bank Street, Coleford.
Wilfrid A. Pritchard born 1881 West Dean
Annie Pritchard born 1883 English Bicknor
Married for 2 years had 1 child which had died.

Marriage June 1/4 1908 Monmouth 11a 97
Wilfrid Augustine Prichard
Caroline Elizabeth E.A. Ellis

1901 census Folly Farm English Bicknor
Thomas Ellis 1838
Fanny Ellis 1847
William Ellis 1874
Caroline Ellis 1883
Thomas 1876

on baptisms for English Bicknor there is a Elizabeth Ann Ellis Baptiseed 15 October 1882 parents Thomas and Fanny

Are Annie, Elizabeth Ann and Caroline Elizabeth E.A. one and the same person and could they also be A. Ellis prior to her marriage to Wilfrid ?

Just a thought!

Wilfred ELLIS 1896 Palmers Flat (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:24:23 +0000

assuming the Wilfred is an ELLIS; then a candidate

1901 Palmers Flat
Bertha Elles abt 1858 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Monmouthshire
Charles Elles abt 1890 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Blanch Elles abt 1893 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Beatrice Elles abt 1895 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Wilfred Elles abt 1897 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Ruben Elles abt 1866 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Brother-in-law West Dean, Monmouthshire
Thomas Garton abt 1884 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Boarder West Dean, Monmouthshire

Name: Thomas Wilfred Ellis
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 26

1891
Charles Ellis abt 1857 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Bertha Ellis abt 1861 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Ellis abt 1881 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charles Ellis abt 1890 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Winifred Ellis abt 1891 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Reuben Ellis abt 1865 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire

1881
Charles Ellis abt 1857 Edenwall, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Bertha Ellis abt 1859 Milkwall, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Bertha Ellis West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Charles Ellis
Name: Decima Bertha Jenkins
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 49

Amelia. ELLIS 1836, Coalway Lane End (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:47:26 +0000

long shot time. ROOK / TYLER family in Coalway. Does this name mean anything ??

struugling with an ELLIS in Coleford in 1911

1911
ELLIS AMELIA F 1839 72 Monmouth Monmouthshire
ELLIS TOM M 1849 62 Monmouth Monmouthshire (?)

Year: 1911
Month: Apr
Day: 20
Surname: ELLIS
Forenames: Amelia
Residence: Wife of Tom Ellis
Age_at_death: 72
Officiating_Minister: Edward H. Brice
Event: Interment
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: (1) Coalway Lane End (2) South Div[ision] : Adults Gr[ave] (3) S10 (4) Consecrated (5) West Dean
Notes:
Register_Reference: DA25 / 204 / 2
Page_No: 7
Parish_Chapel: Coleford Cemetery

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Tom seems to have a sister Winifred ( not Wilfred )

1901 Coalway lane End
Tom Elles abt 1852 Newland Head West Dean, Monmouthshire
Amelia Elles abt 1848 West Dean Wife West Dean, Monmouthshire

1881
Tom Ellis abt 1848 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Amelia Ellis abt 1835 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Tom Ellis
Name: Amelia Dobbs
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 54

1861
Thomas Ellis abt 1825 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Ellis abt 1848 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Wiweford Ellis abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Ellis abt 1853 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charles Ellis abt 1857 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Richard Ellis abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1836
Month: Jan
Day: 17
Parents_Surname: DOBBS
Child_Forenames: Amelia
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Amelia
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Lane End
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: G Ridout Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 125
Parish_Chapel: Newland

A. Ellis living at Bank St. Coleford 1907

rookancestrybest — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:57:37 +0000

Postcards from Coleford sent to members of my family in 1907 were signed by A. Ellis of Bank Street. They were beautifully written (both handwriting-wise and linguistically) and mention someone called Wilfred/Wilfrid. Does anyone know how A. Ellis and Wilfred might connect with the Rooks, Prossers, Pritchards, Steads, Morgans...? My family members (surname Rook) were in touch with them, probably on an ongoing basis, as the cards thank them for postcards which they had sent to A. Ellis and Wilfred/Wilfrid. I know that members of my family visited The Forest of Dean for decades after they had moved away (they moved away in the 1870s and members of the family visited through to about the 1920s or 1930s) and that at least one member of my family regularly went on holiday with some relatives from Coleford and S. Wales e.g. to North Devon and to coastal resorts in Wales e.g. Mumbles.
Thanks.