Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Fred WATKINS1870 Oakwood Mill Hill Bream - Prior Thread

Fred WATKINS1870 Oakwood Mill Hill Bream - Prior Thread (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:47:22 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=1835

he did not remarry before 1911

1911
WATKINS FRED M 1870 41 Monmouth Monmouthshire
WATKINS MABEL KATHERINE F 1873 38 Monmouth Monmouthshire
WATKINS BADEN FREDERICK M 1901 10 Monmouth Monmouthshire
WATKINS CLEOPATRA KATHLEEN F 1906 5 Monmouth Monmouthshire
WATKINS DOROTHY ELIZABETH F 1903 8 Monmouth Monmouthshire
WATKINS MOSTYN RICHARD M 1896 15 Monmouth Monmouthshire

Frederick Watkins DOB abt 1871 (reply)

Rosemarie — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:37:27 +0000

Hi
Thanks for your reply, Mabel was the only wife I found in the census, but these marriages are on here.

Year: 1894
Month: Apr
Day: 22
Grooms_Surname: WATKINS
Grooms_Forenames: Frederick John
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Bream
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: TOOMEY
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann
Brides_Age: 24
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Bream
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Toomey
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Farm Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: William Toomey
Witness_2: Jane Hughes
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: H.E. Dandy
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 156
Parish_Chapel: Bream

Year: 1909
Month: Oct
Day: 31
Grooms_Surname: WATKINS
Grooms_Forenames: Frederick John
Grooms_Age: 38
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Bream
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: WATKINS
Brides_Forenames: Selina
Brides_Age: 32
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Bream
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Watkins
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Charles
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Charles Watkins
Witness_2: Effie Watkins
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: G.W.Leonard Cass
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 235
Parish_Chapel: Bream

So still a bit confused.
Thanks
Rosemarie

Frederick Watkins DOB abt 1871 (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:04:59 +0000

Can only find one on the 1871 census (so far)

Oakwood, Mill Hill

all WATKINS - born West Dean

Richard - 27
Elizabeth - 26
Warren - 4
Albert - 3
Fred -1
Martina P - 4 weeks/months?

1881 Census Bream

WATKINS

Richard - 38 - Iron Miner (Bream)
Elizabeth - 37
Warren 14, Albert 13, Fred 11, Martina P 10, Minnie A 7, Orland 5, The Kate 3

On FreeBDM

June Qtr 1893, Monmouth

Fred WATKINS/Mabel Catherine LAURENCE/LAWRENCE
also on FOD records, Bream 1893 (10 April)

* one of the witnesses was Herbert Rowe LAWRENCE (there is a marriage 1900 on in NewportM which covers LLanmartin) -

1901 Wales Census, West Dean, District 12

Park? Villa

Fred WATKINS 31, Iron Mine Proprietor, Employer, born Bream
Mabel C - 27, born Llanmartin? Newport
Richard - 5, born Bream

Just above them (another family inbetween)

Celia WATKINS - 52, born Hewlesfield
William WATKINS - 23, Collier Hewer, born West Dean Bream
James WATKINS - 18 - Collier Hewer Filler, born ditto
Susan MORGAN 35- Visitors, born Yorkley
Minnie J MORGAN - 6 - born Frostburg, Allaghany (America)

Frederick Watkins DOB abt 1871

Rosemarie — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:35:34 +0000

Hi
I am having trouble finding Fredericks wife. I have found possible marriages to Mabel, Mary Ann Toomey and also a Selina Watkins as a widower.
Can anyone help.
Or were there 2 Frederick Watkins born around the same time in Bream?
Thanks