Forest of Dean FHT Forum - EYNON/ALDER/COOPEY marriage

EYNON/ALDER/COOPEY marriage (reply)

jhuggett — Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:45:35 +0000

We gave a whole lot of family papers about the Oregon connection to the museum in Portland, Oregon - my uncle gave them the papers without telling me and showing them to me

EYNON/ALDER/COOPEY marriage (reply)

jhuggett — Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:39:25 +0000

The wool trade makes sense - John Coopey moved to Oregon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coopey_Falls

EYNON/ALDER/COOPEY marriage (reply)

jhuggett — Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:38:04 +0000

I have Clara Coopey's birth certificate

EYNON/ALDER/COOPEY marriage (reply)

jhuggett — Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:36:04 +0000

Interesting - I am descended from Clara Coopey who was a daughter of Haywood Coopey and Ann Onions - someone in this line discovered Coopey Falls in Oregon and a deceased uncle of mine gave the family papers to the museum in Portland Oregon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coopey_Falls
The falls were discovered by Charles Coopey who was a tailor and emigrated to Oregon. I believe that line died out

EYNON - Port Eynon (reply)

rookancestrybest — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:29:58 +0000

Isn't there also a Port Eynon in South Wales? I appear to have some Eynons in my family history, they appear to have come originally from Pembroke, and I was assuming that they might have originated from Port Eynon way back, but perhaps I now should revise this view?

EYNON/ALDER/COOPEY marriage (reply)

spellweaver — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:18:57 +0000

Hi Janice
Some of the parish records for Ashleworth are available on the web via Genuki, as well as through this site. I've found these useful in tracing the various bits of my tree.
Jasper Alder's will says he was a Horse trader, and that he owned a messuage and garden in Newpond. Jasper was buried 22/6/1800 in Ashleworth, which would fit with the IGI record tidily, and his eldest son was John, which would fit too.
Though over half of the Alder children died young, the "survivors" all seem to have made old bones....The Sauls were also a long lived lot.
Louisa Saul, daughter of Josiah Saul and Elizabeth Alder, married George Moorfield and had 9 children. The demise of the wool trade caused the family to move out of the area, and the children and grandchildren settled all over the UK, from Kent to Yorkshire.
Angela

EYNON/ALDER/COOPEY marriage (reply)

talmac — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:24:57 +0000

hi spellweaver

I found a christening for Jasper Alder 5th Jan 1744 in Kings Stanley and it gives his father as John but no mother.
John Alder christening 1725 in Kings Stanley

Sarah Phillips christening 28th Aug 1748 Ashleworth her father was
Francis Phillips christening 1721 in Ashleworth
her mother is named as Eliz I found these on th Latter Day Saints site.

Mary & job Eynon's daughter Ann m Hayward Coopey 11th Feb 1848 they had
Martin abt 1849 who died ? Julia abt 1851 Charles abt 1855
William hubert abt 1857 my ggrandfather
Martin abt 1860 who died
Clara abt 1864 Leah abt 1868

Julia had a son Jesse abt 1867 out of wedlock
Charles wife Grace died and he took his son Raymond to Oregon USA. He was a tailor & had his own Factory where they made uniforms for the forces. If you Google Coopey Falls Oregon you will see the waterfall named after the family & read about him.
Janice

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SAUL/GABB marriage (reply)

spellweaver — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:21:07 +0000

Hi talmac
I have nine children of Jasper Alder and Sarah Phillips, but only 4 who survived to adulthood. I have a copy of the will of Jasper Alder, which names them as son John b1775, Ann Smith (Ann Alder married Thomas Smith 26/2/1799 at St Nicholas in Gloucester), Elizabeth and Mary Alder. Would love to know more about Mary and her descendants.
I believe Jasper Alder was born in Kings Stanley in 1744, but have not managed to access any records from there. Does anyone know if these records are available anywhere online?
Angela

SAUL/GABB marriage (reply)

talmac — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:07:10 +0000

I would like to thank all of you on this link for your information as I have been looking for information on Job Eynon/Onions from Dymock married to Mary Alder for ages. My ancestor was their daughter Ann she married Hayward Coopey on 11/02/1848 in the parish of St John the Baptist and I had been trying to find any siblings of hers, as I know a lot about Hayward. Ann's mother Mary Alder was one of at least 8 children born to Jasper Alder & Sarah Phillips who married llth July 1775 in Ashelworth. Jasper Alder died aged 55years about 22/6/1800 & Sarah Alder died aged 57 about 10/3/1805.
Again many thanks to you all & I will be on this site more often as I have just joined.

EYNON surname -> BAYNHAM (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:24:31 +0000

This surname derives from an Old Welsh personal name Eignion or Enion - from 'einion' meaning stability or fortitude.

The forename is first recorded in the Pipe Rolls of Shropshire (1159), 'Ennian filius (son of) Gieruero' and as Eynon or Eynun (1221). It is first recorded as a surname in the late 13th Century. Alternate spellings were Heizhnon (1327), Eynon (1327) John Eynon - The Subsidy Rolls of Worcestershire, Onnyon (1568) and Ineon (1593).

In the modern idiom the name has twelve spelling variations including Eynon, Inions, Anyan, Onion(s), O'Nions, Hennion etc.. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of William Anyun, which was dated 1279, The Hundred Rolls of Buckinghamshire, during the reign of King Edward 1, 'The Hammer of the Scots', 1272 - 1307.

The Welsh form - Ap EYNON may be responsible for BAYNHAM, which as we know is found around the Forest and Borders

SAUL/GABB marriage (reply)

spellweaver — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:11:52 +0000

Thanks a lot - you are an absolute star! Loved the comment about the Gloucestershire accent. Some of my ancestors came from the Midlands, and judging by the permutations of their surnames, they must have had very strong Black Country accents.
Mary Alder was the sister of Elizabeth Alder, who married Josiah Saul in 1801 in Maisemore. The connection between the Eynons and Sauls was one of my "loose ends" - I hate those!

SAUL/GABB marriage (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:33:44 +0000

Possible Dymock baptism sometimes IRONS, sometimes EYNONS, but parents Job and Sarah

21 February 1796, born 18 September 1795
Job IRONS, parents Job and Sarah

James Winniate EYNONS - 15 July 1783
John EYNONS - 16 May 1784
Elizabeth EYNONS - 14 April 1786
Sarah IRONS - 15 May 1788
Mary EYNONS - 15 January 1792
Robert IRONS - 20 April 1794

There is a death at Dymock 21 February 1871 of a Job PYNON age 74 of Bromsberrow Heath Dymock.

The surname ONIONS appears on various census for DYMOCK - so a few variants of this surname (Gloucestershire accent!!)

SAUL/GABB marriage (reply)

spellweaver — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:45:20 +0000

Thanks to both of you for this information - much appreciated, and gives me many more lines to follow up.

SAUL/GABB marriage (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:12:38 +0000

I am having to search my CD by Christian name 'Job' as the surname is spelt different ways.... and seeing by the census', Job was a Bricklayer. (1841 census, Gloucs. St Mary De Lobe Job EYNON - 45 Bricklayer)

Looks like the surname started off as ONIONS (or transcribed as)

Marriage: Gloucester St Mary De Crypt
21 November 1815 by Banns

Job ONIONS married Mary ALDER

CHILDREN

Sandhurst St Lawrence

ONIONS (Henrietta)

Parents: Job & Mary
Occupation: Bricklayer
Address: Sandhurst
Baptised 14 August 1816

so far in baptisms at Dymock St Mary

ONIANS (William)

Parents: Job and Mary
Occupation: Mason
Address: Dymock
Baptised: 11 July 1819 (on FOD records also as ONIONS) at Dymock

ONIONS (Jane)

Parents: Job and Mary
Occupation: Mason
Address: Bromsberrow Heath
Baptised 27 October 1822 (on FOD records also as ONIONS)

AYNONS (Ann)

Parents: Job and Mary
Occupation: Mason
Address: Broms Heath
Baptised : 10 April 1825 (on FOD records also as AYNONS)

London, England, Births and Baptisms 1813-1906
Westminster Christ Church - Marylebone

Jane Esther GABB - parents Jaz & Jane (Labourer) - 24 March 1832, 8 North? Street
(Jane married Robert HALES 2 April 1855)

James Frederick GABB - parents James & Jane - 9 February 1834, Carlisle Street
Harriet E GABB - ditto - 11 October 1835, Richmond Place (died 3 July 1836 - 10 months old)
Robert GABB - ditto - 19 November 1837, Salisbury Street
Georgina GABB - ditto - 21 June 1840 - Carlisle Street

re: Reuben Caleb SAUL

Reuben Kellep (Kelless) GABB (occ Stonemason - Bachelor - father James GABB) - married at Christ Church Marylebone - 7 September 1858 to Emma WATSON (Reuben died JFM Qtr - 1860, Marylebone)

possible 1851 census, Middlesex, St Paul, Convent Gardens
Langley Court, Model Lodging (but this one is a Clerk)

Reuben GABB - 21, Clerk, - born Middx. London

Harriet GABB SAUL 1832 Ashleworth area (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:47:25 +0000

http://www.sole.org.uk/saulashlew.htm

Martha Saul [1809] had an illegitimate daughter, Harriet Gabb Saul, born 1832. She
then married Robert Davis

Year: 1832
Month: May
Day: 13
Parents_Surname: SAULL
Child_Forenames: Harriett Gadd
Fathers_Forenames: not stated
Mothers_Forenames: Martha
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hasfield
Occupation: Servant
Officiating_Minister: William Gilkes: Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: base born Daughter of
Notes: Father's surname may be Gadd
Register_Reference: P166 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 23
Parish_Chapel: Hasfield

Jane SAUL 1806 Ashleworth area (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:31:57 +0000

http://www.sole.org.uk/saulashlew.htm

Jane Saul [1806] had an illegitimate son, Reuben Caleb Saul, in 1828, but I can find no details
of either on the 1841 census

Year: 1828
Month: Dec
Day: 28
Parents_Surname: SAUL
Child_Forenames: Reuben Caleb
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ashelworth [sic]
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: R Smith
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P20 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 36
Parish_Chapel: Ashleworth

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Year: 1801
Month: Dec
Day: 10
Grooms_Surname: SAULL
Grooms_Forenames: Josiah
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Hartpury
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: ALDER
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hartpury
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: 15 November 22 N
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Jonathan Williams
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Scriven
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Beale Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P165 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 22
Parish_Chapel: Hartpury

Year: 1806
Month: Aug
Day: 31
Parents_Surname: SAUL
Child_Forenames: Jane
Fathers_Forenames: Sier
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P20 IN 1/2
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Ashleworth

1841
Jane Gabb abt 1806 St Marylebone, Middlesex
James Gabb abt 1806 Middlesex, England St Marylebone, Middlesex
Reuben Gabb abt 1828 St Marylebone, Middlesex
Jane Gabb abt 1831 Middlesex, England St Marylebone, Middlesex
James Gabb abt 1833 Middlesex, England St Marylebone, Middlesex
Robert Gabb abt 1837 Middlesex, England St Marylebone, Middlesex
Georgina Gabb abt 1839 Middlesex, England St Marylebone, Middlesex

1851
Jane Gabb abt 1807 Cheltenham Wife St Marylebone, Middlesex
James Gabb abt 1811 London, England Head St Marylebone, Middlesex
Robin Gabb abt 1826 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son St Marylebone, Middlesex
Jane Gabb abt 1833 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter St Marylebone, Middlesex
Robert Gabb abt 1838 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son St Marylebone, Middlesex
Georgian Gabb abt 1842 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter St Marylebone, Middlesex
John Gabb abt 1844 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son St Marylebone, Middlesex
Harriett Gabb abt 1846 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter St Marylebone, Middlesex

1861
James Gabb abt 1801 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Head St Marylebone, Middlesex
Jane Gabb abt 1802 Gloucestershire, England Wife St Marylebone, Middlesex
James Gabb abt 1833 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son St Marylebone, Middlesex
Robert Gabb abt 1839 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son St Marylebone, Middlesex
Georgiana Gabb abt 1841 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter St Marylebone, Middlesex
John Gabb abt 1843 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son St Marylebone, Middlesex
Harriet Gabb abt 1846 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter St Marylebone, Middlesex

1871 Marylebone, Middlesex
James Gabb 75
Jane Gabb 69

1881
Richard Bull abt 1850 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Head Marylebone, London
Harriett Bull abt 1848 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Wife Marylebone, London
Richard Bull abt 1870 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son Marylebone, London
Mary L. Bull abt 1878 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter Marylebone, London
Samuel R. Bull abt 1878 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son Marylebone, London
Wm. G. Bull Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son Marylebone, London
Jane Gabb abt 1801 Ashyworth, Gloucestershire, England Mother in Law Marylebone, London
Henry Gabb abt 1866 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Grandson Marylebone, London

SAUL/GABB marriage

spellweaver — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:26:59 +0000

Seeking any record of a marriage between JANE SAUL b1806 in Ashleworth and JAMES GABB. Expected marriage date between 1827 and 1830, location unknown.

Also any information on JOB EYNON b.c.1795 in Dymock(?), wife MARY, possibly nee MARY ALDER b1787 in Ashleworth. Possible children, HENRIETTA EYNON b1817 and WILLIAM b1819. Job and Mary Eynon were living at Bromsberrow Heath at the time of the 1851 and 1861 censuses.

Any help on either of these would be much appreciated.

Angela