Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Hannah Louisa DANCE 1837 Plymouth -> Newland

Hannah Louisa DANCE 1837 Plymouth -> Newland (reply)

colindance — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:41:53 +0000

Hi Judith,
Im related through William Henry Dance .Hannah Louise brother.Is that correct I see in your post Hannah Louise daughter Hannah maried a Joseph Dance through her second marriage?

Regards

Colin

Hannah Louisa DANCE 1837 Plymouth -> Newland (reply)

jleadbeater — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:16:03 +0000

Hannah Louisa Dance was also the Great great Grandmother of my Husband. He is a Leadbeater and comes from Hannah Dance & Richard Berrows' daughter Hannah Berrow's second marriage to Frederick Leadbeater in 1902. She had previously married Joseph Dance who died in 1898. Joseph also had been married previously to Elizabeth Wright so Hannah was left with 'step' children when he died. I don't know the full story but I think they went to live with relatives. Hannah & Joseph had 2 children, William & Clarice (Clarys/Clarissa??. Hannah & Fred had 2 children Frederick George Leadbeater & Emily Leadbeater. I still have a long way to go!! Would be interested to know which Dance you are descended from?

Judith Leadbeater

DANCE William Henry Iron Miner 1800's (reply)

tomsand — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:14:56 +0000

One family tree on Ancestry shows that Joseph Dance the Royal Marine originated from the Forest area. Baptised at Staunton near Newent on June 29th 1800, he was the son of John and Hannah Dance. John Dance and Hannah Hart were married at Churcham in 1783. They had three children in the Longdon area before moving to Staunton.

DANCE William Henry Iron Miner 1800's (reply)

colindance — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:08:06 +0000

Thanks for the tip.Iwill make contact soon

Kind regards

Colin

Ann DANCE nee PEPRELL Starcross /Torcross DEV (reply)

colindance — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:58:36 +0000

Thanks for your help slowhands.

Ann DANCE nee PEPRELL Starcross /Torcross DEV (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:24:02 +0000

I'm 60% sure that Starcross is what it says - its a "poor" transcription of the Census data.

transcribed as in Breconshire [!] rather than Devon in
1851
Ann Danes abt 1800 Starcross, Breconshire, Wales Head Newland, Gloucestershire

The modern parish of Starcross was created in 1828 from parts of Kenton and Dawlish.

However the other 40% of me goes to :-

In 1861
Ann Dance abt 1800 Stockinham, Devon, England Mother-in-law Newland, Gloucestershire

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Stokenham/index.html
STOKENHAM, or Stockingham, a small pleasant village, 5½ miles E. by S. of Kingsbridge and near Torcross !

... and I should say the more I look at this, the more I favour Torcross !!

Looking in 1841 & 1851 cencus - established PEPPERELL familes are certainly in the Stokenham/Torcross area.

example
1841
Roger Pepperell abt 1761 Devon, England Stokenham, Devon
Jane Pepperell abt 1786 Devon, England Stokenham, Devon
Philip Pepperell abt 1786 Devon, England Stokenham, Devon
Saml Pepperell abt 1786 Devon, England Stokenham, Devon
Jane Pepperell abt 1811 Devon, England Stokenham, Devon
George Pepperell abt 1816 Devon, England Stokenham, Devon
Sally Pepperell abt 1826 Devon, England Stokenham, Devon

Ann DANCE nee PEPRELL 1799 - 1878 Starcross DEV -> Newland (reply)

colindance — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:15:35 +0000

Hi Slowhands,
Thanks for helping.Can I ask what the reference to Starcross Devon is.I see from the 1871 census AnnDance birth place listed as Farcrogs Devon
Thanks
Colin

Hannah Louisa DANCE 1837 Plymouth -> Newland (reply)

colindance — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:15:24 +0000

Thanks for your post Bronwen,

Very interesting .If I am correct looking at all the information that has been posted so far.My Great ,great grandfather was William Henry Dance brother to your Great great grandmother Hannah Louisa Dance.If that is correct would that make us distantly related cousins?!
Both William and Henry were born in Plymouth and from your information Louisa was born in east Stonehouse which I see from google is the Royal Marine Barracks and Hospital.Thank you for the information of Ann Dance maiden name .Can you let me know the soure reference number of Hannah Louisa Dance birth certificate .I hope to trace her father Joseph back to the Forest of Dean.Good luck in your research of the Berrows side of your family

Kind regards

Colin

Hannah Louisa DANCE 1837 Plymouth -> Newland (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:20:47 +0000

Feel free to join in - your extra information confirms and expands the original hypothesis !

Hannah Louisa DANCE 1837 Plymouth -> Newland (reply)

Bronwen — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:07:28 +0000

Hope it is ok to post this here!
The original post refers to William DANCE and may well be related to
Hannah Louisa (Anna Louisa on the birth certificate) DANCE born 1837 in East Stonehouse in Devon who is my great great grandmother. The occupation of her father Joseph DANCE on her birth certificate is given as Private Royal Marines. Her mother’s name was Ann DANCE nee PEPRELL.
When Hannah married Richard BERROW on 4 November 1856 at St Peters Church in Clearwell her father Joseph was 'late' and a Royal Marine. The death you give in 1847 could well be that of the above Joseph.
I have really been concentrating on the BERROW (also Forest of Dean) side of the family but was very interested to read all the above and below comments. Especially the census returns with different spellings!

Would I be wrong to presume that when Joseph left the Royal Marines he would have returned to family in The Forest of Dean with his family? Ann Dance gives her birth place as Devon (Stockingham, Devon or Plymouth, Devon depending on which year), so I would I be right to think it might be Joseph that is referred to in the 1841 Census for DANEL born 1801, his age would be about right for marriage and children?

Thank you this has given me some more to look at!

Bronwen

DANCE William Henry Iron Miner 1800's (reply)

DavidFromScowles — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:57:00 +0000

Hi Colin
You've probably already come across this site: http://www.dance-family.com/ but if not it's worth making contact with Tom Bint who's put it together. As you'll see he's done an enormous amount of work and, I'm sure, would be helpful.

Connections with the Sea! (reply)

rookancestrybest — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:23:30 +0000

I notice he was a Royal Marine. I have noticed a lot of people in the Forest of Dean and South Wales had connections with the Royal Navy or other sea based professions. Ibn my family album I have a picture of a woman in a crinoline and it was taken at Devonport. I can only assume her husband may have had something to do with the Royal Navy or Royal Marines but she remains, for the time being at least, a mystery person! She will be related to my Forest of Dean relatives but I have yet to make the link!

William Henry DANCE 1835 -1871 Plymouth -> Newland (reply)

colindance — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:28:25 +0000

Thank you so much for all your help .I thought I may have come to an end .I will look through all the information you sent and keep you informed.Thanks for taking the time.

Kind regards
Colin

DANCE William Henry Iron Miner 1800's (reply)

colindance — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:20:28 +0000

Fantastic Chris .Thanks for the quick reply.I only started researching my family name 3 weeks ago and thought i might have come to an end now I have loads to work on .

Kind regards

Colin

Ann DANCE nee PEPRELL 1799 - 1878 Starcross DEV -> Newland (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:20:39 +0000

1871 Alms House Clearwell
Ann Dance abt 1799 Farcrogs [Farcross], Devon, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire

Year: 1878
Month: Dec
Day: 27
Surname: DANCE
Forenames: Ann
Residence: Ruspidge
Age_at_death: 82 y[ea]rs
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/13
Page_No: 92
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns

Hannah Louisa DANCE 1837 Plymouth -> Newland (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:55:53 +0000

Sister Hannah ( and mother Ann in 1861)

Name: Ann Louisa Dance
Year of Registration: 1837
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: East Stonehouse
County: Devon
Volume: 9
Page: 266

Year: 1856
Month: Nov
Day: 4
Grooms_Surname: BERROW
Grooms_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Age: 27
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Mason
Grooms_Residence: Trow Green
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Berrow
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Mason
Brides_Surname: DANCE
Brides_Forenames: Hannah Louisa
Brides_Age: 19
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Clearwell
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Dance
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Joseph (late)
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Royle Marine
Licence_or_Banns:
Date_of_Banns: Banns
Signature_or_Mark: She signs he marks
Witness_1: William Harris
Witness_2: Mark of Eliza Harris
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Howard Parry off. Min.
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: rr looks like n see Harris Witness 1 Surname indistinct
Register_Reference: P88 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 1
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell

1861
Richard Bearrow abt 1831 Landogo, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Hannah Bearrow abt 1838 Plymouth, Devon, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Charles Bearrow abt 1858 Clearwell, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
William Bearrow abt 1860 Clearwell, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Ann Dance abt 1800 Stockinham, Devon, England Mother-in-law Newland, Gloucestershire

Ann HARDING 1833 Baunton GLO (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:17:33 +0000

There are 2 contenders in this area

this is my favoured candidate

1841
William Harding abt 1771 Gloucestershire, England Baunton, Gloucestershire
Rachael Harding abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Baunton, Gloucestershire
George Harding abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Baunton, Gloucestershire
Ann Harding abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Baunton, Gloucestershire
William Harding abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Baunton, Gloucestershire

1851
Ann Harding abt 1833 Barnton, Gloucestershire, England Servant Richmond, Surrey

William Henry DANCE 1835 -1871 Plymouth -> Newland (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:47:22 +0000

1841 Clearwell
Ann Danel abt 1800 Newland, Gloucestershire
Joseph Danel abt 1801 Newland, Gloucestershire Labourer
John Danel abt 1827 Newland, Gloucestershire
William Danel abt 1835 Newland, Gloucestershire
Hannah Danel abt 1836 Newland, Gloucestershire

Year: 1842
Month: Oct
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: DANCE
Child_Forenames: Alice Ann
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Clearwell
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: M. [Illegible] Lautry [?] Off[iciatin]g M[inister]
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Privately on the 12th. Admitted into the Church 16 Oct[obe]r
Notes:
Register_Reference: 8811
Page_Number: 30
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell

Year: 1847
Month: Oct
Day: 2
Surname: DANCE
Forenames: Joseph
Residence: Clearwell
Age_at_death: 46
Officiating_Minister: G. Ridout Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/27
Page_No: 8
Parish_Chapel: Newland

1851
Ann Danes abt 1800 Starcross, Breconshire, Wales Head Newland, Gloucestershire
William Danes abt 1837 Plymouth, Breconshire, Wales Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Hannah Danes abt 1839 Plymouth, Breconshire, Wales Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Allin Danes abt 1843 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire

I wonder if William was an Army man at the time - Pembroke was a garrison as was Plymouth , following father Joseph as a Royal Marine

Name: William Henry Dance
Name: Ann Harding
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Pembroke
County: Dyfed, Pembrokeshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 787

1861
William Henry Dance abt 1836 Plymouth, Devon, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Ann Dance abt 1833 Pranton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Joseph Dance abt 1857 Clearwell, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
William Dance abt 1859 Clearwell, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
John Dance abt 1860 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire

1871 Cirencester
William Danco 35 Polmouth ?
Anne Danco 38 Bampton ?
Joseph Danco 14
William Danco 12
John Dance 10 Clearwell
Hannah Dance 9
Rachel Dance 7
Aster Dance 5
Annie Dance 3
Kate Dance 2 months
John Woodman 43
Ellen Woodman 42

Name: William Henry Dance
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 36
District: Cirencester
County: Gloucestershire, Wiltshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 257

I suspect Ann marries the widowed Henry Major

Name: Ann Dance
Name: Henry Major
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Cirencester
County: Gloucestershire, Wiltshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 687

1881
Ann Mayor abt 1834 Baunton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Stratton, Gloucestershire
Henry Mayor abt 1837 Hankerton, Wiltshire, England Head Stratton, Gloucestershire
Henry E. Mayor abt 1868 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Son Stratton, Gloucestershire
Ellanor E. Mayor abt 1869 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Stratton, Gloucestershire
Eden J. Mayor abt 1871 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Son Stratton, Gloucestershire
Wilfred C. Mayor abt 1872 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Son Stratton, Gloucestershire

1891
Ann Magor abt 1834 Barnston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Stratton, Gloucestershire
Henry Magor abt 1835 Hankerton, Wiltshire, England Head Stratton, Gloucestershire
Wilfred Magor abt 1872 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Son Stratton, Gloucestershire

1901
Ann Major abt 1834 Baunton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ampney Crucis, Gloucestershire
Henry Major abt 1835 Hankerton, Wiltshire, England Head Ampney Crucis, Gloucestershire

Name: Ann Major
Death Registration Month/Year: 1917
Age at death (estimated): 83
Registration district: Cirencester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 462

Name: Henry Major
Death Registration Month/Year: 1919
Age at death (estimated): 84
Registration district: Cirencester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 401

DANCE William Henry Iron Miner 1800's (reply)

ChrisW — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:54:00 +0000

This couple maybe?

Marriages Mar 1856
Dance William Henry Pembroke 11a 787
HARDING Ann Pembroke 11a 787
Mills Martha Pembroke 11a 787
Owen Thomas Pembroke 11a 787

From FreeBMD.

Records from this site that may fit:

Record_ID: 116003
Entry_Number: 548
Year: 1857
Month: Mar
Day: 17
Parents_Surname: DANCE
Child_Forenames: Joseph
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Clearwell
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: H. L. Parry Incumbent
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 8811
Page_Number: 69
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell
Soundex: D520

Record_ID: 116040
Entry_Number: 585
Year: 1858
Month: Jun
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: DANCE
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Clearwell
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: H. L. Parry Incumbent
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 8811
Page_Number: 74
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell
Soundex: D520

Record_ID: 116125
Entry_Number: 670
Year: 1861
Month: Feb
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: DANCE
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Stow
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: H. L. Parry Incumbent
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 8811
Page_Number: 84
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell
Soundex: D520

Record_ID: 116164
Entry_Number: 709
Year: 1862
Month: Apr
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: DANCE
Child_Forenames: Anna Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: William Henry
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Clearwell
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: H. L. Parry Incumbent
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 8811
Page_Number: 89
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell
Soundex: D520

DANCE William Henry Iron Miner 1800's

colindance — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:38:41 +0000

Hello I am a new member trying to trace familly and in need of assistance.

I am looking for any information ( Birth/Marriage/Death/Census) for my great great grandfather William Henry DANCE.Details from his son Johns birth certificate show that his occupation was an Iron Minor in 19th February 1860 and married to Ann Harding and living at Lane West Dean.

Thank you for any help