this is all connection to my previous threads about her mother Elizabeth Howell nee Ward listing on the 1911 census that she had 14 children.. I know she was carrying another at the time, making it 15. I had 12 including the one she is carrying so I am still missing 3 !

determined to find them.. I wonder about stillbirth's though?.. would they have been registered... she wasn't one for getting them baptised until a couple in 1896 Gladys and Lizzie who seem to have been baptised the same day as 3 of her brother's and sisters who were baptised as older children.

Think I am also going to have to check that none of her siblings were actually her children but may hve been brought up by her parents.. yikes..

with the price rise if I don't get it sorted soon it could cost me a fortune!!

Simone x

1901
Evans G Howells abt 1874 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Head Coleford, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Howells abt 1873 Joyford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Coleford, Gloucestershire
Gladys Howells abt 1896 Joyford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Coleford, Gloucestershire
Annie Howells abt 1900 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Coleford, Gloucestershire
Baby Howells abt 1901 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Coleford, Gloucestershire

Year: 1898
Month: Apr
Day: 13
Grooms_Surname: HOWELL
Grooms_Forenames: Evan George
Grooms_Age: 24
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Coalway Lane End
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Howell
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Noah
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: WARD
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 25
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Joyford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Watkins
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Mark of John Watkins
Witness_2: Anna Ward
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: A W Cornwall
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 150
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

1891 Joyford Hill
John Watkins abt 1853 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Watkins abt 1851 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Ward abt 1878 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Stepdaughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Ward abt 1891 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Georgina Watkins abt 1882 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Watkins abt 1885 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charlotte Watkins abt 1886 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1878
Month: Feb
Day: 17
Grooms_Surname: WATKINS
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Lane End
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Watkins
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: WARD
Brides_Forenames: Sarah
Brides_Age: 27
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Joyford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Ward
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Henry Gunter
Witness_2: Phoebe Ward
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Jo[hn] Jo[seph] Elsworth Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/21
Page_Number: 182
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

That clears that up for me then... trying to find mising siblings so that rules her out for me.

Thanks again

Simone x

Steve Davies

1901 Edge End
William Dobbs abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Monmouthshire
Ruth Dobbs abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Monmouthshire
George Ward abt 1885 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson West Dean, Monmouthshire
Florrie Ward abt 1891 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter West Dean, Monmouthshire

1911
WARD FLORENCE AMELIA F 1891 20 Monmouth Monmouthshire

{Spouse option Clifford J Bosley - rejected !}

Spouse Alfred Davies
Name: Florence A Ward
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 86

Steve Davies
Coleford

In the birth indexes is a Florence Amelia Ward Mar q 1891 monmouth. I was hoping she may be twin to my Elizabeth Ward b 13/12/1890 (mother Elizabeth, no father named), listed under the same year, quarter, Vol and page number as Florence.

However I have found a possible for Florence on the 1891 census with William and Emily as parents RG12; Piece: 4339; Folio 96; Page 19

Name Age
William Ward 30
Emily Ward 27
William G Ward 6
Anne L Ward 4
Emily E Ward 2
Florence A Ward 3/12

by 1901 Florence is not with them but I can't see a death anywhere
RG13; Piece: 4922; Folio: 130; Page: 2.

Name Age
William Ward 41
Emily Ward 38
Annie Ward 14
Emily E Ward 12
Esther H Ward 8
Sydney Ward 6
Jessie C Ward 4
James H Ward 7 months

juat want to find out what happened to her so I can rule out that she is not mine. Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Simone x