As for the Ballingers, there are plenty of them around too. Elizabeth Bowery Ballinger married Joseph Manns and she was a Widow but I haven't been able to find a previous marriage. According to the census Elizabeth Bowery was single when she was a servant for John Ballinger in 1851 and 1861, she married Joseph Manns in February 1871 which means that if she did previously marry and was widowed it would have to be between 1861 and 1871. She could, of course, have said that she was widowed when she hadn't been married. I wonder when John Ballinger died.

I am beginning to wonder if I will ever find the right family, I shall have to keep looking.

Year: 1819
Month: Oct
Day: 17
Parents_Surname: BOWRY
Child_Forenames: Enoch
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Mitchel Dean
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Edmund Probyn Officiating. Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 220 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 21
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

Parents ?

Year: 1816
Month: Aug
Day: 25
Grooms_Surname: BOWER
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Hundred of St. Briavals
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: WEBB
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St. Briavals
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He signs she marks
Witness_1: John Parker
Witness_2: Elizabeth Greening
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Thos K Mallet Rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P310 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 4
Parish_Chapel: Staunton

1891
Emma Bowery abt 1851 [1821] East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alfred Bowery abt 1880 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson East Dean, Gloucestershire

1881
Emma Bowery abt 1821 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth An. Bowery abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alfred Bowery abt 1880 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Enoch Bowery
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 60
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 161

1871 Harry Hill
Enoch Bower 51
Emma Bower 50
Leata Bower 18
Elizabeth Ann Bower 11
Clara Bower 7
Robert Toppings 11


1861
Enoch Bowey abt 1820 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Bowey abt 1821 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Bowey abt 1841 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Bowey abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Enoch Bowey abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Leah Bowey abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Bowey abt 1854 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Bowey abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1851
Enoch Bower abt 1819 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Amey Bower abt 1820 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Bower abt 1842 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Bower abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Bower abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Enoch Bower abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1841
Enoch Boway abt 1817 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Emma Boway abt 1820 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Boway abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Name:Emma Tippens
Name: Enock Brown
Year of Registration: 1840
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 703

Year: 1840
Month: Oct
Day: 11
Grooms_Surname: BROWN
Grooms_Forenames: Enoch
Grooms_Age: Full Age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Brown
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Sawyer
Brides_Surname: TIPPENS
Brides_Forenames: Emma
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Tippens
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Thomas Jones
Witness_2: William Hale
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Crawley
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 24
Parish_Chapel: Flaxley

That name "rings a bell" somewhere in this research..... I wonder if he was the Thatcher ?

BALLINGER / MANNS / Jabez BOWRY

http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=5112

I have just received a marriage certificate for Rosa Bowry and John Hughes for 1873 and the names of the witnesses are William Manns and Emma Bowry. Her name also appeared on another marriage in 1870 of Julia Ann Bowry to Jacob Whitehouse. Funnily enough the other witness to that marriage was a William Hughes who might be the father of John Hughes as his name was William. Rosa Bowry had a sister Julia and both marriages give their father as John Bowry so it looks like it's Rosa's sister but I haven't come across an Emma Bowery in my research, only Emily, so that's another lead I shall have to follow in the search for my Isabelle. Thanks again for your help.

1911
BOWERY HANNAH F 1858 53 Newent Gloucestershire - born Spain
BOWERY ALBERT M 1900 11 Newent Gloucestershire
BOWERY ISABEL F 1893 18 Newent Gloucestershire

Name: Thomas Bowery
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 61
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 169

1901
Thomas H Bowery abt 1849 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Head Taynton Gloucestershire
Hannah Bowery abt 1856 Spain Wife Taynton Gloucestershire
Albert Bowery abt 1900 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Son Taynton Gloucestershire
Delores Bowery abt 1894 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Taynton Gloucestershire
Edith Bowery abt 1883 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Taynton Gloucestershire
Ernest Bowery abt 1891 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Son Taynton Gloucestershire
Percival Bowery abt 1887 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Son Taynton Gloucestershire

Name: Isabel Bowery
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 277

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http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=5092#p5092

Rose BOWERY appears with several siblings and mother Elizabeth, living with a John BALLINGER in the 1851 and 1861 census in Longhope but I can't find a marriage, only of Elizabeth BOWERY BALLINGER, widow, marrying Joseph MANNS in February 1871. I wonder if this Elizabeth is the mother of Rosa and the reason for the BOWERY/BALLINGER name change.

In 1873, just after Julia was born, Rosa married a John HUGHES and the 1881 census shows Rosa, a widow, living with her two children Eliza Hughes and John Hughes in Ledbury. I wondered if Rosa wanted to look "respectable" on the census form so gave her children her deceased husband's name. By the time of the 1891 census there is an Isabel BOWRY aged 19 living in Gloucester and with a place of birth of Ledbury. I would like to find out definitely if my Isabelle Bowery is Julia Elizabeth Bowry/Elizabeth Ballinger and that she perhaps dropped the Julia for Elizabeth and, because of the Spanish connection, thought that Isabelle was more exotic and changed it to Isabelle. It doesn't help that there are so many different spellings of Bowery as well as surname changes.

Please can anyone recognise any of these names?

My Isabelle Bowery names a William Bowery, thatcher,deceased on the marriage certificate but I believe this was a lie to cover up the fact that she was base born. I have found that a Julia Elizabeth Bowery was born in Newent in 1871 and hope this might be her but I could be totally wrong. A Rosa Bowry entered the Newent workhouse and came out, so I was told, as Rosa Ballinger with a baby named Julia Ballinger born 1st October 1871 (birth certificate info) but there is a Julia Elizabeth Bowry (mother Rose) baptised 19th November 1871 on this website.

I wondered if it was likely that a baby could be baptised with one name and registered with another?

Rose Bowry appears with several siblings and mother Elizabeth, living with a John Ballinger in the 1851 and 1861 census in Longhope but I can't find a marriage, only of Elizabeth Bowery Ballinger widow marrying Joseph Manns in February 1871. I wonder if this Elizabeth is the