Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Harriet DALLY (Freereg & Wills of Herefordshire)

Harriet DALLY (Freereg & Wills of Herefordshire) (reply)

bramcor — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:34:06 +0000

Thank you, M.P. I have found most of this info but it is always interesting to see it written up by someone else, with the extra comments.
On paper, it looks very promising that the James & Mary of Broadlays who baptised Harriet in 1815 are the same couple who baptised the children we know to be in our family - but I think I have to be wary.
The story of Joseph Skinner & Harriet Dally intrigued me - I thought Joseph might already have been married but so far haven't found anything definite. The Skinner name seems to be well known in Ledbury - wonder if Joseph was connected?
I must check out that will reference to Thomas Dally that you listed - always glad to have another area to check.

Regards...Judy

Harriet DALLY (Freereg & Wills of Herefordshire) (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:01:08 +0000

? Harriet christened 3 December 1815 parents James & Mary

1881 Census - Ledbury, Back Homend

Joseph SKINNER, age 70 - labourer, born Ashperton
Harriet SKINNER - age 65 - born Ledbury

1871 census, Ledbury, Back Homend

Joseph SKINNER- 60 - Labourer, born Ashperton
Harriet SKINNER - 51, born Ledbury

March Qtr 1864, Ledbury - Joseph SKINNER married Harriet DALLY (married at last...30 years after the birth of Mary )

1861 Census, Ledbury, District 14

Joseph SKINNER - Head - unmarried 51, Stone Quarry Labourer, born Heref. Applerton
HARRIET DALLY - Boarder, unmarried age 44 (c1817) - born Heref. Ledbury
Mary MARSH, daughter-in-law - married age 25, born Ledbury - *may be named after her mother?
George DALLY - Boarder, mar - age 26 born ditto
Eliza DALLY - Boarder - mar - age 21- born ditto
Ann DALLY - age 3, Scholar, born ditto

house next door

Mary DALLEY - Head, W - age 47, - Charwomen, born Ledbury
John - " - unmarried, age 24, Railway Labourer, born ditto
Charlotte DALLEY - dau - unmrried, age 21, Ag. Servant - born ditto
Elizabeth DALLEY - dau - unmrried, age 18 - ditto
Emma DALLEY - dau - age 9 - Scholar - ditto
Benjamin DALLEY - son - age 7 - ditto

1851 Census, Ledbury
Home End Common Gardern

Joseph SKINNER, age 40, Timber Feller
Harriet DALLEY, age 34, Housekeeper, born Ledbury

next door

Hannah DAVIS - age 60, washerwomen
Ann DAVIS - age 44
Mary DALLY - visitor, age 16, Charwomen, born Ledbury

1841 Census, Ledbury, Page 11
Home End Street

Joseph SKINNER - age 30, ag. lab
Harriet DALEY - age 20
Mary DALEY - age 7 FOD records - 28 April 1834,
address Homend (baseborn daughter of Harriet DALLY )
George DALEY - age 5 (FOD records)

also on the site -

Freereg

Ledbury, Herefordshire, St Michael - 23 December 1836

George DALLY, baseborn, mother Harriett DALLY, address Homend

Looking at the children of James & Mary (including Benjamin c1807) - he has a daughter christened Emma - 1 February 1839 - address Homend - Ledbury - so the family appear to be in the same location (next page - 12) - 1841 census

On this page is

Richard DALEY age 20, (FOD & *Freereg http://www.freereg.org.uk/ -useful and 'growing' site for other County searches) - son of Thomas & Elizabeth, christened 4 February 1821, Homend, Ledbury)
Sarah age 20 and Thomas - 3 months

a few houses away

Benjamin DALLY, 35, Hester DALLY 35,
Elizabeth EVANS- 15, Mary EVANS- 15, Eliza EVANS 11 - William DALLY - 6, and Emma DALLY - 3

Genuki - Wills of Herefordshire

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/ProbateRecords/

(under initial 'P' )Will of Elizabeth PENNELL of Acton Beauchamp - 7 February 1724, mentions Thomas DALLY of Ledbury and Margaret his sister.

Broadlay nr Colwall HEREF (reply)

bramcor — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:14:33 +0000

That's pretty detailed information, Slowhands. Thanks very much. I had checked out the maps & Geograph but it was interesting to revisit with new place names.
Now I have to wait & see if anyone can tell me about James & Mary - long shot, I know, but maybe someone is researching the family.

Broadlay nr Colwall HEREF (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:41:50 +0000

Where exactly is Broadlays?

Following the 1841 census "route" it appears to be close to Brockbury Hall ( Farm)

in 1851 census "route" Barton Court, Upper Mill and The Green are mentioned either side of Broadley.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1072291

I place it in the triangle between Colwall, Mill Lane to Colwall Green and Barton Court, probably as exact as I can be without a Tithe map for the period.

http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&gazName=g&...

Old maps
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
co ords 374600 241900

and of course this was a time before the Ledbury - Malvern railway line was laid down.

Barton Court to Colwall Green is on the turnpike road from Chances Pitch to the Wyches ( on the Malvern Hills)

James & Mary DALLY, connection between Broadlays & Ledbury (reply)

bramcor — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:06:40 +0000

I tend to agree that Broadlays or Broadlay is near Colwall - maybe it's the name of a farm, if not an area. I think that's pretty close to Ledbury & I suppose it's possible that my family moved closer to Colwall. Of course Maria & Harriet could have been born to a completely different James & Mary.

James & Mary DALLY, connection between Broadlays & Ledbury (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:56:49 +0000

If you 'Google'

The Parish Church - Colwall, Herefordshire, - there are about 10 baptisms from around 1820/1829 address being given as Broadlay

including a Lucy Stanley, baptised 2 April 1829

Page 3 - 1841 Census, Colwall, Ledbury, Herefordshire - Gates End

Richard STANLEY - age 41
Charlotte STANLEY - age 35
Lucy STANLEY - age 11 etc.

On page 2 of this census, (Colwall District 17 - page 2) there are two houses with occupants - address BROADLAY.. so Richard STANLEY and family are just a few houses away from Broadlay.

District 17 - 'all that part of the Parish of Colwall, which lies to the western side of the Turnpike road leading from Chancespitch? to the Wyche'

James & Mary DALLY, connection between Broadlays & Ledbury

bramcor — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:14:17 +0000

The FoD records show James & Mary Dally (she was most likely Buffin) baptised several children between 1803 & 1812 at the Ledbury Parish Church, including my ancestor Thomas. No other residence is given.
Using the Advanced Search feature, I also found a James & Mary Dally of Broadlays baptised Maria & Harriet in 1814 & 1815 at the Ledbury Parish Church. I haven't found Broadlays on any map, though I did find Bradlow is close to Ledbury & there is another place called The Leys nearby.

I would like to know two things:
1. Where exactly is Broadlays?
2. Are the Broadlays Dally couple likely to be the same couple as the earlier couple?