Forest of Dean FHT Forum - McNeil/ Wintour marriage

McNeil/ Wintour marriage (reply)

fernman2 — Wed, 05 May 2010 12:23:15 +0000

May I send an enormous collective 'thank you' to everyone for all the very helpful information which you have provided. It will take me a while to try to sort it all out and to evaluate what I have got. The references to Sydenham are of interest as I know my grandmother's family (McNeils) lived there for some time. Someone has asked me for my mother's first names. These were Irene Violet. I shall e-mail a couple of you directly to follow up some points, but please accept this collective message. I thank you all very much for your help. Of course, any further comments will be much appreciated.
Neil Rumbol

Blacksmiths Arms Alvington (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 05 May 2010 11:50:24 +0000

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1793876

McNeil/ Wintour marriage (reply)

pclark — Wed, 05 May 2010 11:39:50 +0000

The Thorns are my family and ran the Blacksmiths Arms in Alvington for many years.

I have the names you mentioned in my tree and would be glad to share info with you.

Here is a bit for you

Beatrice Wintour Mcneil marries William Edmonds Banham in 1908. One daughter arised from the marriage.
Beatrice Banham then marries Albert William Thorn in 1912.

Pete

McNeil/ Wintour marriage (reply)

Simone — Tue, 04 May 2010 19:53:34 +0000

from this site

108298
Entry_Number:
Year: 1880
Month: Jul
Day: 11
Grooms_Surname: McNEIL
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: engineer
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: McNeil
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Robert
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: papermaker
Brides_Surname: WINTOUR
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 29
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Alvington
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Wintour
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: farmer
Licence_or_Banns: Licence

hmm Wintour? coincidental.. wonder if you are connected to Judith on the other Wintour threads? :)

Beatrice Wintour McNeil (reply)

Simone — Tue, 04 May 2010 19:51:10 +0000

FROM THIS SITE

2431
Entry_Number: 360
Year: 1883
Month: Sep
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: MCNEIL
Child_Forenames: Beatrice Wintour
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Sydenham near London
Occupation: District Foreman of rhe Lambeth Waterworks
Officiating_Minister: W.H. Cotes M.A. Offic[iatin]g Min[iste]r
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Aug 9th 1883
Notes:
Register_Reference: P12 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 45
Parish_Chapel: Alvington
Soundex: M254

possible William Edmonds Banham 1891 & 1901 (reply)

Simone — Tue, 04 May 2010 19:49:24 +0000

1891 RG12; Piece: 523; Folio 44; Page 42
4 The Chestnuts, Bell Green

William Felix Banham 40 corndealer, b Suffolk Stratford St Mary
Mary Ann Banham 40 b Somerset Lopen?
Edith M Banham 12 b Sydenham Kent
William E Banham 6 b Sydenham Kent
Beatrice M Banham 4 b Sydenham Kent

1901 RG13; Piece: 556; Folio: 55; Page: 50.
still at the Chestnuts
Mary A Banham 48 widow
Edith M Banham 22
William E Banham 16
Beatrice M Banham 14

Banham/McNeil marriage 1908 & Banham death 1909 (reply)

Simone — Tue, 04 May 2010 19:41:47 +0000

Marriages Sep 1908
BANHAM William Edmonds Lewisham 1d 2174
MCNEIL Beatrice Wintour Lewisham 1d 2174

death for William in West Ham district?

Deaths Jun 1909
BANHAM William Edmonds 24 W. Ham 4a 91

Simone x

Families named BANHAM, Lydney area, 1905-1915 (reply)

Simone — Tue, 04 May 2010 19:30:34 +0000

could grandad be William Albert rather than Albert William

Marriages Dec 1912
BANHAM Beatrice W Thorn Chepstow 11a 1
THORN William A Banham Chepstow 11a 1

from this site

710
Entry Number 145
Year 1912
Month Nov
Day 17
Grooms Surname THORN
Grooms Forenames William Albert
Grooms Age 23
Groom Condition Bachelor
Grooms Occupation Bootmaker
Grooms Residence Alvington
Grooms Fathers Surname THORN
Grooms Fathers Forenames Albert William
Grooms Fathers Occupation Licensed Victualler
Brides Surname BANHAM
Brides Forenames Beatrice Wintour
Brides Age 28
Brides Condition Widow
Brides Occupation [not stated]
Brides Residence Alvington
Brides Fathers Surname McNEIL
Brides Fathers Forenames James
Brides Fathers Occupation Superintendant [illegible] Water Board
Licence or Banns Licence
Date of Banns [not stated]
Signature or Mark Both sign
Witness 1 Kate Knight
Witness 2 Albert Wintour
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister A.J.W. Harris
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P12 IN 1/11
Page Number 73
Parish Chapel Alvington

Families named BANHAM, Lydney area, 1905-1915 (reply)

gwrmad — Tue, 04 May 2010 19:24:46 +0000

Hi There what was your mothers christian names as this will help us to sort this out.Regards Kelvin

Families named BANHAM, Lydney area, 1905-1915

fernman2 — Tue, 04 May 2010 18:18:47 +0000

Have recently discovered that my actual grandfather had the name BANHAM and was not the person I knew as my grandfather. My mother was born with the name Banham in 1909 although I always knew her as being a 'Thorn'. I understand that this man died sometime before 1912 when my grandmother married Albert W. Thorn whom I knew as my grandfather, and who later kept the shoe makers/repairers in Newerne Street (Lydney) until the 1960s. I should be grateful for any information on the name of Banham. Unfortunately I have no Christian name or even initial for this person and I have no idea whether he even came from the Forest area at all. Any comments gratefully received.
Neil Rumbol.