Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Watkins (Hoppy)

Watkins (Hoppy) (reply)

Lincolnian — Thu, 06 May 2010 19:59:56 +0000

Thank you for that theory rookancestrybest, but I've come to the conclusion
that if Admin & Slowhands don't know the answer then nobody does, having said that I shall keep on looking & if I ever do find the answer I shall post it on this board for anyone & everyone to see.

Watkins (Hoppy) (reply)

rookancestrybest — Thu, 06 May 2010 18:52:16 +0000

Could it be related to Mr. Jones' occupation as a publican?! On a serious note, transcription is difficult, I saw an original record (census) of one of my ancestors born in a place I could not make out for the life of me and searched in vain for places which looked like the same spelling, but the transcriber saw what I hadn't and the town they transcribed made far more sense! There's another original record of someone's marriage and I know for a fact the religious minister wrote what he thought he heard rather than the name, he'd crossed out attempts at real name, probably because he'd never heard of it and changed it to a name which sounded similar which he would have known! Some of it also relies on the literacy of the person who wrote it originally too. One American record I have seen refers to Cheltenham as Cheltinghom or something similar!!!!

Watkins (Hoppy) (reply)

Lincolnian — Wed, 05 May 2010 18:47:59 +0000

Thanks for your replies, I remain nonplussed, but it was worth a try.

Elizabeth JONES 1844 Pillowell (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 05 May 2010 06:41:37 +0000

1851 Pillowell
George Jones abt 1816 Aisby, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire Cordwainer
Sarah Jones abt 1816 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Jones abt 1842 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jones abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Susan Jones abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Jones abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Jones abt 1851 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1841 Pillowell
Sarah Jones abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
George Jones abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Alice Jones abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Year: 1839
Month: Apr
Day: 1
Grooms_Surname: JONES
Grooms_Forenames: George
Grooms_Age: of full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Shoemaker
Grooms_Residence: Yorkley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Jones
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Sailor
Brides_Surname: JAMES
Brides_Forenames: Sarah
Brides_Age: of full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: none stated
Brides_Residence: Yorkley
Brides_Fathers_Surname: James
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Hallier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: John James
Witness_2: Richard Morgan
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: H W Sheppard Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 59
Parish_Chapel: Newland

Richard WATKINS 1843 of Mill Hill / Oakwood - prior thread (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 05 May 2010 05:38:38 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=1835

Year: 1868
Month: Feb
Day: 23
Parents_Surname: WATKINS
Child_Forenames: Albert
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Mill Hill
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: H Morgan Offg Minr
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 71
Parish_Chapel: Bream

Year: 1871
Month: [not stated]
Day: 0
Parents_Surname: WATKINS
Child_Forenames: Martina Patience
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Mill Hill
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: J. F. Gosling
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [1] Annunciation of the Virgin Mary [2]Sponsors Richard Watkins Elizabeth Watkins Ann Hayward
Notes: Memoranda [1] entered instead of date which was probably March 25
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 94
Parish_Chapel: Bream

still looking to understand where HOPPY might fit in !

Year: 1843
Month: Mar
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: WATKINS
Child_Forenames: Richard
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bream
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: H. G. Poole Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 72
Parish_Chapel: Bream

Watkins (Hoppy) (reply)

admin — Wed, 05 May 2010 03:43:07 +0000

Generally having the brackets around a surname indicates that the transcriber was unable to accurately decipher the spelling and their best guess was given.

Having (HOPPY) inserted beneath names of both groom and grooms father, I have no answer, so will leave it to your imagination.

Watkins (Hoppy) (reply)

Lincolnian — Tue, 04 May 2010 22:30:47 +0000

ChrisW, you are so right. Have you a clue as to what it means?

Watkins (Hoppy) (reply)

ChrisW — Tue, 04 May 2010 21:54:46 +0000

This will confuse you even more!

Record_ID: 1800
Entry_Number: 88
Year: 1865
Month: Jul
Day: 6
Grooms_Surname: WATKINS
Grooms_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Quarryman
Grooms_Residence: Oakwood Hill Bottom
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Watkins
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Quarryman
Brides_Surname: JONES
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Servant
Brides_Residence: Warren Aylburton
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Jones
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Shoemaker & Publican
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: George Smith
Witness_2: Eliza Bevan
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Cornelius Witherby
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: [Inserted beneath names of both groom and grooms father] (Hoppy)
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 44
Parish_Chapel: Bream
Soundex_Groom: W325
Soundex_Bride: J520

Watkins (Hoppy)

Lincolnian — Tue, 04 May 2010 19:33:01 +0000

Transcript details for the Baptism of Warren Watkins 1866 describes the mother as being Elizabeth (HOPPY); can anyone please tell me if HOPPY is her surname
or am I missing something? as I can't find another instance of "HOPPY" anywhere.