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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the marriage of Mary White to James Stibbs in 1809. </p>
<p>Searching FreeBMD suggests Stibbs is a rare surname in Glos, it seems associated more with Stroud and especially Bristol, but not the FoD.   Ditto struggling to find our family in the 1841 census anywhere ?</p>
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<p>Who are the WARLOCK witnesses ?, this is the only PR I can find for this surname, which looks like our couple.<br />
<span style="color:#006;"><br />
Record_ID: 124752<br />
Entry_Number: 18<br />
Year: 1812<br />
Month: Apr<br />
Day: 27<br />
Grooms_Surname: WARLOCK<br />
Grooms_Forenames: John<br />
Grooms_Age: <br />
Groom_Condition: Batchelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation: <br />
Grooms_Residence: of this Parish<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Surname: BREEN<br />
Brides_Forenames: Dorcas<br />
Brides_Age: <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Residence: of the same<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns: <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark<br />
Witness_1: The mark of Ann Parry<br />
Witness_2: The mark of John Thomas<br />
Other_Witnesses: <br />
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Jones curate<br />
Event: Marriage<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/9<br />
Page_Number: 7<br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney<br />
Soundex_Groom: W642<br />
Soundex_Bride: B650<br />
</span><br />
However there are several PRs for spelling variations, tick the Soundex box !<br />
<span style="color:#006;"><br />
Record_ID: 201085<br />
Entry_Number: 489<br />
Year: 1864<br />
Month: Sep<br />
Day: 5<br />
Surname: WARLICK<br />
Forenames: Dorcas<br />
Residence: Lydney<br />
Age_at_death: years 85<br />
Officiating_Minister: B.Philpot Vicar<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/12<br />
Page_No: 62<br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney<br />
Soundex: W642<br />
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So Dorcas was born abt 1779.<br />
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Record_ID: 200019<br />
Entry_Number: 1025b<br />
Year: 1843<br />
Month: May<br />
Day: 24<br />
Surname: WARLICK SHIREMAN<br />
Forenames: John<br />
Residence: Lidney<br />
Age_at_death: 73<br />
Officiating_Minister: Charles Taylor<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: C.T.<br />
Notes: Warlikeshire alias Warlick Shireman<br />
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/11<br />
Page_No: 129<br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney<br />
Soundex: W642<br />
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Born abt 1770.<br />
Is this our John ??.</p>
<p>Where now... ???</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi MPG, <br />
glad to see you back onboard, hope all is well with you.<br />
I must apologise for not posting my efforts, as poor as they are, when researching this post late yesterday. I thought of you M as it seems to me the witnesses are indeed key, sorry for not posting sooner. </p>
<p>For what they're worth here are all my findings on this query, was trying to find some common / useful ground but not a lot I'm afraid, the Whites seem to be an elusive family (altho I deliberately only searched STIBBS not Stubbs etc). Hopefully this info may help you or others, apologies for any duplication, this is what I found from the PRs and also FamilySearch etc.</p>
<p>From this site's PRs;<br />
<span style="color:#006;"><br />
Record_ID: 124727<br />
Entry_Number: <br />
Year: 1809<br />
Month: May<br />
Day: 22<br />
Grooms_Surname: STIBBS<br />
Grooms_Forenames: James<br />
Grooms_Age: <br />
Groom_Condition: <br />
Grooms_Occupation: <br />
Grooms_Residence: of this Parish<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Surname: WHITE<br />
Brides_Forenames: Mary<br />
Brides_Age: <br />
Brides_Condition: <br />
Brides_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Residence: of this Parish<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns: <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark<br />
Witness_1: The mark of John Warlock<br />
Witness_2: The mark of Dorcas Warlock<br />
Other_Witnesses: <br />
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Jones curate<br />
Event: Marriage<br />
Memoranda: Monday<br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/8<br />
Page_Number: 145<br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney<br />
Soundex_Groom: S312<br />
Soundex_Bride: W300</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#006;">Record_ID: 337359<br />
Entry_Number: <br />
Year: 1813<br />
Month: Jul<br />
Day: 20<br />
Parents_Surname: STIBBS<br />
Child_Forenames: Sarah<br />
Fathers_Forenames: James<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Mary<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: of this parish<br />
Occupation: labourer<br />
Officiating_Minister: <br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: <br />
Page_Number: <br />
Parish_Chapel: Monmouth<br />
Soundex: S312<br />
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<p>Children;<br />
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Record_ID: 289845<br />
Entry_Number: 137<br />
Year: 1815<br />
Month: Dec<br />
Day: 24<br />
Parents_Surname: STIBBS<br />
Child_Forenames: Hester<br />
Fathers_Forenames: James<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Mary<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Lidney<br />
Occupation: Labourer<br />
Officiating_Minister: Wm. Jones<br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: D[aughte]r of<br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/3<br />
Page_Number: 18<br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney<br />
Soundex: S312</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#006;"><br />
Record_ID: 125018<br />
Entry_Number: 38<br />
Year: 1840<br />
Month: Aug<br />
Day: 22<br />
Grooms_Surname: SHEPHERD<br />
Grooms_Forenames: George<br />
Grooms_Age: Of full age<br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer<br />
Grooms_Residence: Lydney<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: SHEPHERD<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer<br />
Brides_Surname: STIBBS<br />
Brides_Forenames: Sarah<br />
Brides_Age: Of full age<br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation: Servant<br />
Brides_Residence: Lydney<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: STUBBS<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Navigator<br />
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]<br />
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]<br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark<br />
Witness_1: The mark of Alexander Shepherd<br />
Witness_2: The mark of Esther Shepherd<br />
Other_Witnesses: <br />
Officiating_Minister: Charles Taylor<br />
Event: Marriage<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/15<br />
Page_Number: 19<br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney<br />
Soundex_Groom: S163<br />
Soundex_Bride: S312</span></p>
<p>Struggling to find them in the Census', but do have;</p>
<p><span style="color:#006;">Name  Sarah Shepheard<br />
Event Type  Census<br />
Event Date  1841<br />
Event Place  Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Residence Note  Village Newern<br />
Gender  Female<br />
Age  25-29<br />
Age (Original)  25<br />
Birth Year (Estimated)  1812-1816<br />
Birthplace  Gloucestershire<br />
Registration District  Chepstow<br />
Parish  Lydney<br />
County  Gloucestershire<br />
Page Number  5<br />
Registration Number  HO107<br />
Piece/Folio  350/18<br />
Affiliate Record Type  Household<br />
</span><br />
From Familysearch which is my only references at this time, and in this instance one of those &quot;odd&quot; individual returns they occasionally throw-up, so unable to see the rest of this Census page, I wonder if other family members are on it ??</p>
<p>But evetually found this, <br />
<span style="color:#006;"><br />
Name  George Shephard<br />
Event Type  Census<br />
Event Date  1841<br />
Event Place  Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Residence Note  Village Of Newern<br />
Gender  Male<br />
Age  25-29<br />
Age (Original)  25<br />
Birth Year (Estimated)  1812-1816<br />
Birthplace  Gloucestershire<br />
Registration District  Chepstow<br />
Parish  Lydney<br />
County  Gloucestershire<br />
Page Number  4<br />
Registration Number  HO107<br />
Piece/Folio  350/18<br />
Affiliate Record Type  Household<br />
</span></p>
<p><br />
Some of the names below fit the witnesses at Sarah Stibbs' marriage. Is Ester WHITE possibly Ester Sheppard's mother ?. Suspect &quot;Elic Sheppard&quot; (male) = Alec aka Alexander Sheppard, witness ?</p>
<p><span style="color:#006;">1841     Althorp House, Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace<br />
Ester White   F 70-74  <br />
Elic Sheppard   M 40-44  <br />
Ester Sheppard   F 20-24  Gloucestershire<br />
Thomas Sheppard  M 7  Gloucestershire<br />
George Sheppard  M 5  Gloucestershire<br />
William Sheppard  M 4  Gloucestershire<br />
Charles Sheppard  M 2  Gloucestershire<br />
John Sheppard   M 0  Gloucestershire<br />
Betsy Reece   F 10  Gloucestershire<br />
James Prosser   M 10  Gloucestershire</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#006;">Record_ID: 201655<br />
Entry_Number: 1058<br />
Year: 1873<br />
Month: Apr<br />
Day: 28<br />
Surname: SHEPHERD<br />
Forenames: George<br />
Residence: Tutshill Lane<br />
Age_at_death: 57<br />
Officiating_Minister: John J.Trollope<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: [note in Name field] By Warrant from Coroner<br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/12<br />
Page_No: 133<br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney<br />
Soundex: S163</span></p>
<p>So born abt 1816, which fits nicely.</p>
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Record_ID: 202963<br />
Entry_Number: 256<br />
Year: 1895<br />
Month: Nov<br />
Day: 11<br />
Surname: SHEPHERD<br />
Forenames: Sarah<br />
Residence: Lydney<br />
Age_at_death: 80<br />
Officiating_Minister: J.C.E.Besant<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: [Besant underlined]<br />
Register_Reference: Lydney P209 IN 1/14<br />
Page_No: 32<br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney<br />
Soundex: S163</span></p>
<p><br />
So born abt 1815, which fits nicely.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHITE/SHEPPARD</p>
<p>?  Ancestry - as transcribed</p>
<p>1841 Census, Lydney</p>
<p><strong>Ester</strong> WHITE - 70 - not born in County<br />
Elie SHIPPARD - 40 - not born in County<br />
Ester SHIPPARD - 20<br />
Thomas SHIPPARD - 7<br />
George SHIPPARD - 5<br />
William SHIPPARD 4<br />
Charles SHIPPARD - 2<br />
John SHIPPARD 1 mon</p>
<p><br />
These are the children of Ester &amp; Alexander SHEPHERD -</p>
<p><br />
?</p>
<p>Think Ester's husband was Richard WHITE</p>
<p>Marriage at Lydney: 9 July 1787</p>
<p>Richard WHITE of this Parish<br />
Esther DAVIS of this Parish</p>
<p>witnesses: William BURROWS and William WHITE etc etc</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For starters</p>
<p><br />
One clue is the witness :<strong> William WHITE</strong> who is a witness at the marriage of Esther STIBBS to Alexander SHEPHERD - 22 December 1832 in Lydney, the other witness is Elisabeth JONES.</p>
<p>Hester/Esther's sister:  Sarah  STIBBS = christened - Monmouth - 1813 </p>
<p>married George SHEPHERD - at Lydney - 22 August 1840 - and her father James <strong>STUBBS</strong> occupation Navigator</p>
<p><br />
George &amp; Sarah SHEPHERD on the 1871 census Lydney</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Great, Great, Great Grandmother was a Mary White who married James Stibbs at Lydney in<br />
1809. Their daughter Esther was my Great Great Grandmother.</p>
<p>Esther who was born in 1815 married Alexander Sheppard, but was widowed when Alexander died<br />
in 1851. She then married my Great Great Grandfather Charles Nelmes at Lydney.</p>
<p>I have been unable to establish who Mary's parents were. Have you any suggestions please?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello I have just researched my grampy parents and grandparents and James white is his grandfather would be good to find out more about the whites many thanks Carl J White</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1841<br />
James White abt 1797 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  Mariner<br />
 Harriet White abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Richard White abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Caroline White abt 1825 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 William White abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Hester White abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Eliza White abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Charles White abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire </p>
<p><br />
Year: 1798 <br />
Month: Jul <br />
Day: 8 <br />
Parents_Surname: WHITE <br />
Child_Forenames: James <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Esther <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence:  <br />
Occupation:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: Wm. Jones Curate <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Son of <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/2 <br />
Page_Number: 69 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney</p>
<p><br />
Year: 1787 <br />
Month: Jul <br />
Day: 8 <br />
Grooms_Surname: WHITE <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Richard <br />
Grooms_Age:  <br />
Groom_Condition:  <br />
Grooms_Occupation:  <br />
Grooms_Residence: of this Parish <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:  <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:  <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Surname: DAVIS <br />
Brides_Forenames: Esther <br />
Brides_Age:  <br />
Brides_Condition:  <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: of this Parish <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname:  <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:  <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:  <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns: 20th 27th June 1 <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark <br />
Witness_1: W[illia]m Burrows <br />
Witness_2: William White <br />
Other_Witnesses: John Davis <br />
Officiating_Minister: Morgan Evans Curate <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda: Sunday <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/8 <br />
Page_Number: 13 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney</p>
<p><span style="color:#fc6;">&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;&lt; possibles </span></p>
<p>1841<br />
 Ester White abt 1771   Lydney, Gloucestershire <br />
Elie Shippard abt 1801   Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Ester Shippard abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Thomas Shippard abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 George Shippard abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 William Shippard abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Charles Shippard abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 John Shippard abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Lydney, Gloucestershire  </p>
<p>Year: 1842 <br />
Month: Oct <br />
Day: 23 <br />
Surname: WHITE <br />
Forenames: Hester <br />
Residence: Lydney <br />
Age_at_death: 87 {inferred 1755 ish}<br />
Officiating_Minister: Charles Taylor <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_No: 124 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney </p>
<p><br />
Year: 1824 <br />
Month: Sep <br />
Day: 29 <br />
Surname: WHITE <br />
Forenames: Richard <br />
Residence: Lidney <br />
Age_at_death: 57 {inferred 1766 ish}<br />
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m. Jones <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_No: 48 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone researching the White family in Lydney.  I am particularly interested in the time before 1864 when my grandfather Charles David White left Lydney with his wife Susan nee Wingate and daughter Rose.  </p>
<p>Charles parents were James (1798 to 1859) and Harriet nee Robins (1800 to 1870).  Charles is described in the 1841 census as a Tin Plate Dust Boy and in the 1851 census as Tinner.  His father James is described in various census and documents as Mariner, Waterman and Coal Shipper.  </p>
<p>I have a lot more information about the family but would love to contact someone else who is researching them and may be related to me.</p>
<p>Elaine Corby (nee White)</p>
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