Forest of Dean FHT Forum - LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945

LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945 (reply)

Scott B Lavender — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:27:29 +0000

Thanks for the message Jeff. yes I thought it was a bit of a long shot when I saw the date of the last post.
cheers
scott

LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945 (reply)

Jefff — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:22:28 +0000

Hi Scott, and warm welcome to the forum and website.
I hope to be proven wrong and Andrew does see your message, however I must warn that he may not. He's not been active on the forum for well over a year now, as denoted by his username displaying in black on his posts. Active users appear in blue, these are hyperlinks which can be opened to enable other users to contact them direct, plus see their last visits and posts, etc.

Meanwhile please continue to post, this is a very helpful & friendly forum so hopefully we'll be able to help with any specific questions you may have, altho as you've already discovered the best plan is to search for existing relevant posts first.

atb J

LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945 (reply)

Scott B Lavender — Sun, 17 Jul 2016 17:23:51 +0000

Hi Andrew

James Lavender (Born 1791) is my 4th great-grandfather. I was wondering if you've been able to trace the Lavender family any further back than James?

all the best

Scott

Scott Lavender

LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945 (reply)

10noyrum — Mon, 24 May 2010 10:20:04 +0000

A Lavender was a pupil at Newbridge Grammar School in Mnmouthshire in 1968. He was born about 1950.

LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945 (reply)

margaret M — Mon, 24 May 2010 10:14:26 +0000

Hi Andrew
I'm an Aussie descendant of Charlotte LAVENDER, daughter of James Lavender and Ann Jones. I've just discovered this web site, and am quite overwhelmed with the amount of info you have about this family. I have only been able to get back as far as James Lavender and Ann Price. I'm most interested to know where you discovered the PRICE details for Ann's family.
I've also struggled with the fact that some of their children were christened R.C and others at the Mary St. Independent chapel in Monmouth. A recent discovery on the internet led me to the records of the Monmouth (Catholic) Mission, where in 2 christening records James is described as "non-Catholic". This would possibly explain the different church records.
Their son, James, married Ann Jones at the established church in Llanllwch in 1837, and their daughter, Charlotte (my ancestor) married John James in the Hermon Baptist chapel in 1863.
I have the certificates for my branch of the family if you need any more details.
Is there any chance of finding more about James b. c.1778?
Thanks for sharing so much with all of us, Lavender descendants, scattered all over the world!

Margaret from Melbourne

Violet LAVENDER nee EVANS 1905 -1944 (reply)

ladis — Sat, 22 May 2010 07:03:29 +0000

Thanks for the help and extra info,
Eileen, Iris, and Evelyn, are the daughters of Amos, but somehow, I hadn't been able to locate Evelyns details, I have heard of a niece Susan, but not about the other, I will get back in touch with Amos's dau. and ask if she knows, she had not heard of Rosamond, or Derek.

LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945 (reply)

andrew walford — Fri, 21 May 2010 19:05:23 +0000

Lynn,

I am now home from work and can see my records and Mark Lavender c 1856 who lived at Machine Houses who married Mary Ann Huzzey was the younger brother of my great great grandfather John Lavender c 1850.

The direct ancestors of John and Mark that I have found are as follows:-

Their parents were Amos Lavender born Monmouth 30 Sept 1825 died Lydbrook 26 Dec 1876 and Elizabeth Elsmore c Ledbury 21 July 1822 died Abercarn Dec 1906.

The parents of Amos were James Lavender born about 1779 (1841 census has him born Monmouthshire, 1851 census Glamorganshire, and 1861 Ebbw Vale, I have found no baptism for James!) he died 25 April 1865 at Pontymister and Ann Price who was a Catholic c 4 April 1790 at Perthir, Rockfield died Monmouth Dec 1860.

The parents of Ann Price were William Price of Mitchel Troy a Carpenter and Frances Rosser who was a Catholic c 18 April 1762 at Perthir died Monmouth 20 Feb 1841.

The parents of Frances Rosser were James Rosser and Ann his wife.

Elizabeth Elsmore's parents were John Elsmore a Plumber and Glazier c Little Marcle 15 April 1787 died Ledbury July 1837 and Ann Lewis c Ledbury 3 Aug 1788 died Ledbury Feb 1828.

The parents of John Elsmore were Thomas Elsmore born about 1757 died Ledbury Sept 1829 and Susannah Robinson c Much Marcle 25 April 1762 died Ledbury Feb 1835.

The parents of Ann Lewis were Benjamin Lewis and Elizabeth Hankins who married at Ledbury 27 July 1778.

The parents of Susannah Robinson were William Robinson a Blacksmith c Brockhampton 2 Dec 1725 died Much Marcle 6 Jan 1794 and Hannah Drew born about 1730 died Much Marcle 14 Feb 1793.

The parents of William Robinson were Richard Robinson also a Blacksmith of Much Marcle born about 1695 died Much Marcle 1742 and Anne Terry c Brockhampton 29 July 1699.

I am pretty sure you can go further back than Richard Robinson as the Much Marcle records are now on this site!

The parents of Anne Terry were James Terry and Ann his wife.

Andrew.

LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945 (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 21 May 2010 13:43:36 +0000

This extra info helps make more sense !

I have now ruled out Amos 1888 - he had died prior to 1891

Violet LAVENDER nee EVANS 1905 -1944 (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 21 May 2010 13:19:16 +0000

Name: Violet M Lavender
Death Registration Month/Year: 1944
Age at death (estimated): 39
Registration district: Caerleon
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 298

Name: Violet Mary Evans
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 317

possible relatives

Eileen M Lavender Jul Aug Sep 1927 Newport M. Wales
Rosamond E Lavender Jan Feb Mar 1927 Newport M Wales
Derek Lavender Apr May Jun 1930 Newport M Wales
Iris R Lavender Jul Aug Sep 1932 Newport M Wales

Evelyn O M Lavender Oct Nov Dec 1937 Caerleon Wales
Diane E Lavender Apr May Jun 1945 Caerleon Wales
Susan M Lavender Apr May Jun 1950 Caerleon

possible
1911
EVANS VIOLET MARY F 1906 5 Newport Monmouthshire

Forest of Dean Inquests - LAVENDER (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 21 May 2010 13:18:49 +0000

On the FOD Inquests

Edward Albert LAVENDER - died age 15 in 1875

Amos LAVENDER was an attendee in 1870 & 1874

Thomas LAVENDER was an attendee in 1874

Mary Ann LAVENDER was an attendee in 1891

LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945 (reply)

ladis — Fri, 21 May 2010 13:16:26 +0000

Hi Andrew,
Thanks so much for the link to your Lavender family tree, I have had a quick glance and it appears that there definitely is a connection, I will go thru tomorrow and bring you up to date with what I have on Amos . Its heading for midnight down in OZ and my brain is getting fuddled
Lynn

LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945 (reply)

ladis — Fri, 21 May 2010 12:56:04 +0000

No I don't have a certificate of the marriage, and I didn't know if transcriptions would have been done of Abercarn Marr. or not.

His dau. told me he lied about his age to go to War 1, and that he told her he was a twin. That fits in with the Amos who was born in 1891 to Amos and Elizabeth ELSMORE, and also a John who was born at the same time, who may be his twin. His daughter has told me her address when she was in primary school, was 1 Machine House, Abercarn, and there is an Amos LAVENDER in the 1911 census living at 1 Machine House, with his father Mark, Mother Mary Ann and siblings, Lottie, Mark, James, and Stepen David, this is where I got the link back to Amos & Elizabeth ELSMORE

His daughter also told me that is where they were living when her mother died and her father died either the next year or year after, she thinks it was about 18 months after her mother.

LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945 (reply)

andrew walford — Fri, 21 May 2010 12:14:04 +0000

Hello Lynn,

My great grandmother was Mary Ann Lavender who married Samuel Walford (his picture is on this site), Mary Ann was the daughter of John Lavender and Anie Voice, John is the John you mentioned who was the son of Amos Lavender and Elizabeth Elsmore. I have a Lavender tree which is attached, they were in Monmouth before Lydbrook and Abercarn:-

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=maryann1&id=I1

Andrew

LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945 (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 21 May 2010 12:05:07 +0000

do you have the marriage cert ?

Name: Amos Lavender
Spouse : Violet M Evans
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1926
Registration district: Newport Market
Registration county (inferred): Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 322

If I assume this is Amos

Name: Amos Lavender
Death Registration Month/Year: 1945
Age at death (estimated): 56
Registration district: Caerleon
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 251

his birth in 1888/9 ?
can eliminate :-

Year: 1888
Month: Feb
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: LAVENDER
Child_Forenames: Amos
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Fanny
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Lydbrook
Occupation: Rowller
Officiating_Minister: C.Lane
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: D2598/3/5
Page_Number: 4
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook Primitive Methodist Circuit

1901
Thomas Lavender abt 1858 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Fanny Lavender abt 1858 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Pamela Lavender abt 1882 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Mary Lavender abt 1883 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Ethel Lavender abt 1890 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Thomas John Lavender abt 1892 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Son Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Edward Rd Lavender abt 1894 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Son Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Daniel Lavender abt 1897 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Son Llanelly, Carmarthenshire

1891
Thomas Lavander abt 1860 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Fanny Lavander abt 1862 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Annie Lavander abt 1881 Wales Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Pamila Lavander abt 1883 Wales Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Lavander abt 1886 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edith Lavander abt 1889 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas J Lavander abt 1891 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Amos Lavender
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 1
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 19

1861
Amos Lavender abt 1826 Monmouthshire, Wales Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Lavender abt 1816 Ledbury, Herefordshire, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire
James Lavender abt 1846 Monmouthshire, Wales Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
William Lavender abt 1848 Risca Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
John Lavender abt 1850 Monmouthshire, Wales Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Amos Lavender abt 1852 Monmouthshire, Wales Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Emma Lavender abt 1854 Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Mark Lavender abt 1856 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Tom Lavender abt 1858 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Annie Lavender abt 1861 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire

1851 Monmouth
Ames Lavender 26
James Lavender 6
William Lavender 4

Year 1845
Month Aug
Day 3
Parents Surname LAVENDER
Child Forenames James
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence The Forge Monmouth
Occupation forgeman
Officiating Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference
Page Number
Parish Chapel Monmouth

1841 Monmouth Forge
James Launder abt 1791 Monmouthshire, Wales Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Ann Launder abt 1786 Monmouthshire, Wales Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Mary Launder abt 1821 Monmouthshire, Wales Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Charles Launder abt 1823 Monmouthshire, Wales Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Amos Launder abt 1826 Monmouthshire, Wales Monmouth, Monmouthshire
James Launder abt 1831 Monmouthshire, Wales Monmouth, Monmouthshire

James Lavender
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Marriages:
Spouse: Ann Price
Marriage: 01 APR 1813 Bts, Monmouth, Monmouth, England
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The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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LAVENDER family 1786 to 1945

ladis — Fri, 21 May 2010 10:48:21 +0000

I am trying to confirm the family tree of Amos and Violet LAVENDER

James Lavender wife Ann had 5 Children -Mary, Charles, Amos, James, John,

Amos, marries Elizabeth ELSMORE and they have 9 children
James Samuel, William, John, Amos George, Emma, Mark, Thomas, Annie, Edward Albert,

Mark marries Mary Ann HUZZEY and they have 9 children
William, Charlotte, Edward, Amos, John, Mark Richard, James Albert, Harriet, Stephen David,

The son Amos marries Violet Mary EVANS on 3 Oct 1926, Abercarn, Newport,
Amos died in 1946, and Violet in 1944.

I am doing this research for an elderly family friend, who is the daughter of Amos Lavender, both her parents dying when she was a small child, and she was raised an an orphan. I think the family tree above is correct, but I was wondering if anyone has access to transcriptions of the marriage, of Amos and Violet, which would give parent details and which would confirm that I am correct, or if anyone has links to this family. I would appreciate any help in this matter.
Lynn