Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Elizabeth PENN (TRIGG) 1871 Cinderford

Elizabeth PENN (TRIGG) 1871 Cinderford (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:42:24 +0000

1891 Haywood lane, Cinderford
John Trigg abt 1831 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Trigg abt 1832 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Perin abt 1872 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1881 Littledean Hill
John Trigg abt 1831 (East Dean), Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizebeth John abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizebeth Fen abt 1872 Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Elizabeth Penn
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 228

1871
John Trigo 40
Elizabeth Trigo 36
John Broben Trigo 10

1861
John Trigg abt 1831 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Trigg abt 1832 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire
John Trigg abt 1853 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Son Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire

1841
Ann Trigg abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Jeremiah Trigg abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Trigg abt 1822 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Charlotte Trigg abt 1825 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
John Trigg abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Trigg abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire

possible :-

Name: Elizabeth Brobin
Name: John Trigg
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 393

Year: 1833
Month: Sep
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: BROBIN
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Newnham
Occupation: Waterman
Officiating_Minister: T Leach Tovey Off[iciating] Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Daughter of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P228 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 84
Parish_Chapel: Newnham

Henry HILLMAN 1872 Cinderford (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:21:21 +0000

1911
HILLMAN HENRY M 1873 38 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HILLMAN ELIZABETH F 1872 39 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HILLMAN JAMES M 1898 13 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HILLMAN THOMAS M 1894 17 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HILLMAN LILIAN F 1901 10 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HILLMAN FLORRANCE F 1899 12 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HILLMAN AGNES F 1907 4 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HILLMAN ALBERT J M 1904 7 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HILLMAN AMELIA F 1909 2 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HILLMAN EVA G F 1903 8 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HILLMAN GEORGE M 1905 6 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HILLMAN WILFRED M 1910 1 Bedwellty Monmouthshire

Name: Henry Hillman
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 238

Henry HILLMAN - Lydbrook (reply)

jimashton — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:18:49 +0000

Thanks Reporter & M P Griffiths

I have corrected my Family Tree thanks to your input. I had the Emily Hillman 1898 who married my 8th cousin once removed Francis Cyril Tippins 1895 on 19 Aug 1922 as being the daughter of Henry Hillman and Elizabeth Trigg (and I have only gained her surname from this posting) I have now moved her to be the daughter of Henry Hillman & Amelia Jones.

I was probably influenced by the fact that I have connections to the Henry who married Elizabeth Trigg, his brother James Walter Hillman married Kate Colwell and their daughter Edith Lillian married Arnold Dennis Nelmes, Arnold being the son of Frederick Nelmes and Laura Emily Marfell.

Jim Ashton

Henry HILLMAN Cinderford (reply)

peterandpat — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:04:37 +0000

I do not have an Emily Hillman listed as a child of my Henry Hillman, and I have all the names of his 17 children. Sorry to disappoint. Peter Hillman

Henry HILLMAN - Lydbrook (reply)

peterandpat — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:00:45 +0000

Thank you for this information but it is not the Henry Hillman I am looking for from detail I already have, but appreciate the contact.. Peter Hillman

Henry HILLMAN - Lydbrook (reply)

reporter — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:17:18 +0000

Thanks - looks right!
Regads
Bob

Henry HILLMAN - Lydbrook (reply)

m p griffiths — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:38:36 +0000

This may be Emily/Emilia c1898 with her family in Lydbrook 1901 census - East Dean (as Emily married in 1822 Lydbrook)

Henry HILLMAN - 56, General Labourer, all born East Dean
Amelia - 46
Henry Joseph - 20, Collier, Hewer below ground
Jonas - 16 - Belt Boy
Lottie - 13
Amelia - 10
Florrie - 6
Jim - 4
Emilia - 2

1891 Census, East Dean, District 14

HILLMAN
Henry - 46, Tin Plate Worker - born Lydbrook
Amelia - 36 - born L
William H - 15 - born L
Annie R - 13 - born L
Henry Joseph HILLMAN - age 10, born Springigreef? STAFFORD - Dec Qtr Dudley 1880 (Sedgley)
Elizabeth L - 8 born ditto
James - 6 - born Lydbrook
Charlotte - 3 - born L

? Marriage: March Qtr 1874, Henry HILLMAN, m Amelia JONES - Westbury S

Henry HILLMAN Cinderford (reply)

reporter — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:21:37 +0000

Name: Emily Hillman
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 241
married Francis Cyril Tippins (my 2nd cousin) in 1922; father listed as Henry. Any connection?? - I can't find her in 1901 England or Wales census though.

Henry HILLMAN Cinderford (reply)

peterandpat — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 09:24:00 +0000

Thank you for this information. Some bits I have but this gives a lot more detail and will follow it up. Peter

Henry HILLMAN Cinderford (reply)

m p griffiths — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 09:00:02 +0000

Thanks Chris, this I think is the family 1851 Census
Lydbrook

William HILLMAN - age 58, Tin plate Scaler, born East Dean
Marey HILLMAN - age 49, wife, born Glos. Kempley
James HILLMAN - age 22, Coalminer, born East Dean
Edmund HILLMAN - 18 - born ED
Thomas HILLMAN - 14 - born ED
M. Ann HILLMAN - 11 - born ED (this possibly is Margaret)
Henry HILLMAN - 6 - born ED

1841 Census, Dean Forest, Ross, District 18

HILLMAN

Wm - 35, Tinplate (all born in County)
Mary - 35
Wm - 15, Tinworks
James 12, Emanual 8, Thomas 4, Mary Ann 1

Henry HILLMAN Cinderford (reply)

ChrisW — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:40:29 +0000

I'm just wondering if these were the parents?

Marriages Dec 1864

CAREY Eliza Monmouth 11a 50
Hillman Thomas Monmouth 11a 50
Meek Ellen Monmouth 11a 50
YEM William Monmouth 11a 50

Record_ID: 55291
Entry_Number: 657
Year: 1877
Month: Nov
Day: 22
Surname: HILLMAN
Forenames: Thomas
Residence: Bilson Green
Age_at_death: 40 years
Officiating_Minister: John Phillips
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/13
Page_No: 83
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns
Soundex: H455

Henry HILLMAN Cinderford (reply)

m p griffiths — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:01:23 +0000

1901 Census, Wales, Monmouthshire, Mynddislwyn, District No.11

No. 117 of Schedule
Woodfield Side

HILLMAN

Henry - 28, Coal Hewer below Ground, born Cinderford, Glos
Elizabeth - 29 - born C
Thomas - 7 - born C
James Henry - 3 - born C
Florance May - 2 - born Blackwood, Monmouthshire
Lilian Maud - 1 born B

1891 Census, Glos. East Dean, District 17, Cindeford
Bilson Green

HILLMAN

Eliza (Wid) age 46, born Newnham
James W - son age 23, born Lydney
Henry - son age 18, born Cinderford
Mary A - daughter age 17, born Cinderford
Arthur LEWIS, Boarder, S - age 52, Osler, born Parkend

as ChrisW - the children are in the Westbury on Severn, District of Westbury on Levern Workhouse 1881 on their own

1871 Census, East Dean District 14
Lydbrook

Mary HILLMAN - Head, Widow age 68, Home Duties, born Newent, Glos.
Henry HILLMAN - Unmarried, Son, age 26, Iron Puddler
Thomas MASON - son-in-law age 32, Collier - born Ruardean
Margaret MASON - daughter, age 31 - born East Dean
Eliza HILLMAN - daughter, (Mar) age 27, Domestic Servant - born East Dean
Thomas HILLMAN - son - age 6 - born Newnham
James HILLMAN - son age 3 - born Lydney
Emma HILLMAN - daughter age 1 - born Lydney

previous census returns proving difficult

Henry HILLMAN Cinderford (reply)

ChrisW — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:44:38 +0000

This one on FreeBMD?

Marriages Jun 1893
Edwards George Westbury S. 6a 483
Edwards Martha Westbury S. 6a 483
Hillman Henry Westbury S. 6a 483
Trigg Elizabeth Westbury S. 6a 483

Possible birth for Henry?

Births Jun 1872
HILLMAN Henry Westbury S. 6a 238

In the Workhouse with siblings in the 1881 Census?

James Hillman 13
Emma Hillman 11
Mary Ann Hillman 7
Henry Hillman 8

Henry HILLMAN Cinderford

peterandpat — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:27:48 +0000

My grandfather Henry Hillman originated in Cinderford I am told, as also did his wife Elizabeth nee Trigg. I have tried the Parish records but can't find dates for their baptism or their marriage. If anyone has any information it would be appreciated. They moved to S. Wales and spent the rest of their lives there.