Forest of Dean FHT Forum - JONES/BARNETT/SYMONDS

JONES/BARNETT/SYMONDS (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 09:05:37 +0000

just to re-cap......

1871 Census, Five Acres

Jane JONES age 15, listed as the Granddaughter of Elizabeth JONES - age 78 Widow

1861 Census
Five Acres

James JONES - 67
Elizabeth JONES - 67
Hannah GRUNDY - 26 (she is Hannah JONES AGE 15 1851 census)
Jane JONES - 5 (father listed as Henry - on her marriage certificate)

a HAWKINS family next on the census - (Mary SYMONDS nee JONES - 1841 census age 20 - born before the marriage of James JONES and Elizabeth BARNETT

Edmund SYMONDS - 45, Wheelwright, Herefordshire Goodrich
Mary Ann - 38 - born West Dean
Agnes - 16, Agnes Jennetta SYMONDS - Bream 1.12.1844
Edmund James -14, Edmund James SYMONDS - Bream 16.8.1846
Mary Ann 12 - Mary Ann SIMMONDS, Five Acres, Edwin & Mary Ann - 28 October 1849
Clara 7 - Clara SIMMONS 4 June 1854 - Five Acres - parents Edmund & Mary Ann (notes possibly privately baptised)
Tresha 5
Trevor 2 - 20 March 1859 Five Acres

listed under LUMONDS

1851 Census, Newlands, Lower Lane

Mary SYMONDS - Widow age 28, Dressmaker, born Newland
Agnes SYMONDS - 6 - born Ruardean
Edward SYMONDS - 4 - born Bream
Mary Ann SYMONDS - age 1 born Newland

1861 Census, English Bicknor

Benjamin GUNDY - age 28, (born Glos. New Wear) - labourer at Iron Works - married - lodging with Samuel DYKE and his family

1851 Census
Five Acres

James JONES - 59 - Coalminer
Elizabeth JONES - 59
George JONES - 22
Hannah JONES - 15
Amelia JONES - 13

FOD Records

Benjamin GUNDY - father Benjamin GUNDY - Fisherman
married
Hannah JONES - father - James JONES - of Five Acres

at Christchurch

25 December 1857

1841 Census - Newland
Little Five Acres

James JONES - 45 Coal Miner
Elizabeth JONES - 45
Mary 20 (c1821) ***
Caroline 15, Thomas 10, George 9, Hannah 8, Miah (Amelia) 3

FOD records - Marry Anne JONES of Five Acres, (father James JONES) married
Edmund SYMONDS - 4 November 1832, Newland - witnesses: John BRACE & Olive JAMES

FOD records James JONES (father George SYMONDS, Carpenter - married Elizabeth BARNETT - 16 November 1828 - Newland

Henry JONES marr. Elizabeth MAGNESS/MAGNUS/HOWELLS? (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:04:24 +0000

IGI seems to have the MAGNESS family at St Martin. Hereford - including two brothers of William (James ** & Matthew) and earlier generations. (inc Catherina MAGNESS 11 July 1784, Saint Martin, parents Mathew & Elizabeth)

** 1851 census, Lower Bullingham James MAGNESS age 82, born St Martin

William MAGNESS married Elizabeth HOWELLS - 25 May 1790 - St Martin. Hereford

some ...... children

Elizabeth MAGNUS - christened 11 October 1800, St Martin. Hereford. William & Elizabeth
William MAGNUS - christened 21 November 1791, St Martin. Hereford. William & Elizabeth
James MAGNUS - christened 16 January 1794, Saint Martin. Hereford. William & Elizabeth

St Martin - Parish Upper Saper, Registriction District : Bromyard

Genuki: Bullingham (Upper & Lower) Herefordshire 1876-7
(adjoins the Parish of St Martin)

FOD records

9 May 1824, Sarah MAGNESS - daughter of Elizabeth (single woman) at Drybrook

When

Joseph WILLCOX married Catherine MAGNESS - of St Briavels 29 September 1832, at Goodrich witnesses were

Henry & Elizabeth JONES

1861 Census. Glos Lydney

Joseph WILCOX - 66 - Bricklayer, born Ross. Herefordshire
Catharine WILCOX - 46 c1815 - wife - born Ballingham, Herefordshire (could be Bullingham - as there are MAGNESS on census at Lower Bullingham)
Henry WILCOX - 15, born Monmouth
William WILCOX - 19, born Monmouth
+ a couple of visitors and lodgers

Ancestry transcribed as MAGOWS

1841 Census Dean Forest Ross

Wm MAGNUS - 50 Blacksmith (not born in County)
Elizabeth MAGNUS - age 48 - ditto
Mariah MAGNUS - 22- children all born in County
Richard - 24
Wm - 20 - (9 May 1819)
Sarah - 17

Baptisms at WALFORD - children of William & Elizabeth MAGNESS

Matthew - 22 July 1819 ***
Maria - 27 March 1815 - Furnaces in Ruardean

*** Matthew MAGNESS (Listed on Ancestry as MAGNAS) - 1861 Census, moved to West Bromwich, Staffordshire to work as a Tin Roller

+ wife Jemima - age 39, born Gloucester
William 18, Elizabeth 16, Richard 12, Eliza 10, Catharine 7, Mathew 4 + Ann WILLIAMS - Visitor, unmarried age 57, born Gloucester.

FOD records, Matthew MAGNESS (St Briavels) married Jemima WILLIAMS - at Goodrich 28 July 1832, witnesses: John ROBERTS & Catherine MAGNESS

1851 Census, Ruardean, District 7
Lydbrook

Richard MAGNESS - age 30, Tinplate Worker, born Ruardean
Ann - 28
Morris - 7
Richard - 6
Jane - 4
Alfred - 2 months

Henry JONES (reply)

sylviamorgan — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:36:19 +0000

Thanks to Slowhands and mpgriffiths for posting information which I hadn`t seen before At last something new to follow up.THanks again
Sylvia

Henry JONES marr. Elizabeth ? (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:53:16 +0000

a possible for Henry's parents...

Year: 1825
Month: Aug
Day: 13
Grooms_Surname: JONES
Grooms_Forenames: Henry
Grooms_Age: [not stated]
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: extraparochially
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: MAGNESS
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: [not stated]
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: extraparochially
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Ann Woore
Witness_2: Thomas Woore
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: T. D. Fosbroke Min[iste]r
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/6
Page_Number: 56
Parish_Chapel: Walford

Just for comparison 1841 entry

1841 Lidbrook
Henry Jones abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jones abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Henry Jones abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
John Jones abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Maria Jones abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Martha Jones abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Mary Jones abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

Henry JONES (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:25:10 +0000

from CD

family baptism

East Dean (Drybrook)

Henry JONES - 2 August 1829 - Henry & Elizabeth JONES - tin worker, Lidbrook
Martha JONES - 2 August 1829 - ditto
William JONES - 2 August 1829 - ditto

Henry JONES Lydbrook 1830ish ----- previous research (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:33:43 +0000

I'm sure this is the older sister of Henry 1832 ish

Entry Number 743
Year 1829
Month Aug
Day 2
Parents Surname JONES
Child Forenames Martha
Fathers Forenames Henry
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence Lidbrook
Occupation Tin worker
Officiating Minister J. Chell
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/1
Page Number 93
Parish Chapel Drybrook

and looks like the Register image needs checking for this one just in case this is Henry's entry or vice versa

Entry Number 744
Year 1829
Month Aug
Day 2
Parents Surname JONES
Child Forenames Martha
Fathers Forenames Henry
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence Lidbrook
Occupation Tin worker
Officiating Minister J. Chell
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/1
Page Number 93
Parish Chapel Drybrook

Entry Number 742
Year 1829
Month Aug
Day 2
Parents Surname JONES
Child Forenames William
Fathers Forenames Henry
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence Lidbrook
Occupation Tin worker
Officiating Minister J. Chell
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/1
Page Number 93
Parish Chapel Drybrook

JONES /GUNDY = seems to fit with previous research (reply)

sylviamorgan — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:38:51 +0000

Hi
Thanks again Slowhands and otthers for your help. I have seen all this data but I cant seem able to work out which of the baptisms that I`ve collected is the one for the Henry who much later married Hannah GUNDY. He must be the father of Jane JONES(my great grandmother)although his name wasnt on Jane`s birth certificate.
Sylvia

JONES /GUNDY = seems to fit with previous research (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:32:42 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=5667#p5681

JONES /GUNDY (reply)

m p griffiths — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:27:27 +0000

Jane JONES (Five Acres)

1871 Census, Glos. West Dean
Five Acres

Elizabeth JONES - Widow, age 78, Bonnet Maker, born West Dean
Jane JONES - Granddaughter - age 15, Scholar

Marriage: FOD records - Christchurch 6 September 1873

Benjamin POWELL, Bachelor, Berry Hill - William POWELL
married
Jane JONES - 18, father Henry JONES - Collier

witnesses: George WORGAN and Mary Jane JONES

1861 Census, West Dean
Tomblins Ditch

James JONES - 67, Coalminer born West Dean
Elizabeth JONES - 67
Hannah GUNDY, visitor, married age 26
Jane JONES -5

1851 Census Five Acres

James JONES - 59 Coalminer, born West Dean
Elizabeth JONES - 59
Geo. JONES - 22 - Coalminer
Hannah JONES - 17 at home

children of James & Elizabeth JONES (of Five Acres) christened at Christchurch - FOD records

Henry JONES born 1832 Lydbrook - previous thread (reply)

sylviamorgan — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:23:46 +0000

Hi
Thank you for your answer as you can see there are lots of data about Henry JONES but I just haven`t been able to access anything that confirms which one was "mine"
Sylvia
I`m hoping that someone will be able to say any which can`t be the one I`m looking for

Henry JONES born 1832 Lydbrook - previous thread (reply)

m p griffiths — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:02:39 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=22633

Henry JONES born 1832 Lydbrook

sylviamorgan — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:59:19 +0000

HI
In trying to trace my 2x great grandfather, I found these entries
Henry JONES born 1837 Redbrook parents Elizabeth
Henry JONES 1831 Hudnalls son of Christianna and Elisha
Henry JONES 1835 Lower Meend parents William and Mary
Henry JONES 1832 Shortstanding Christchurch son of James and Eliza
Henry William JONES 1833 Shortstanding parents James and Eliza
Henry JONES 1832 Hillersland mother Sarah WILLIAMS (register states that Henry was not illegitimate despite there being 2 surnames involved)
This last one I found on the advanced search but Monmouth is given as place of birth
Henry JONES 1832 mother Elizabeth
I have had a lot of help with this especially from Slowhands but I`put this in hoping someone might be able to eliminate some of them from my search
Records show that my Henry was born Lydbrook 1832.
The only thing I know for sure is that he was the father of Jane JONES born Five Acres 1855. Her mother was Hannah GUNDY but Henry`s name is on Janes marriage certificate but not on her birth one
Apologies for length of message
Sylvia