Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Elias KEAR 1847 - ? Bream Eaves

Elias KEAR 1847 - ? Bream Eaves (reply)

unknown — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 08:52:45 +0000

Hi Anne
Elias Kear and Mary Ann Wilding followed the many of the Kear and Lee family members that emigrated to New Zealand, this family settling in the Westland area.
Paperspast.co.nz a free to access to digitisation of local papers does have some information about the family. I believe that they lost a son in the Brunner mine cdisaster here in New Zealand.
I haven't quite worked out where this Elias fits in relation to our family of Kear's however there is sure to be a connection.
My husband is descended from two children of William Kear and Ann Grindall's children who emigrated to New Zealand and their descendants reconnected generations on. Such a small world that we are interconnected through.
Hope this information helps.
Regards
Judi Smitheram

Elias KEAR 1847 - ? Bream Eaves (reply)

unknown — Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:43:27 +0000

Thanks for taking the trouble to reply. I have since found out that my relative is Mary Hannah Kear, father Amos and Mother Eliza, so I'm researching a different line now.

Elias KEAR 1847 - ? Bream Eaves (reply)

billcs777 — Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:11:29 +0000

Another thread of relatives distantly related to me - Elias appears to be the youngest brother of my great-great-great grandmother Edith born 1823/24

Bill Smith

email: billcs777@hotmail.com

Mary Hannah BENNETT nee KEAR (nee WILDING ?)1850- 1938 (reply)

unknown — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:00:12 +0000

I think the Mary Kear I (not we) am looking for is Mary Hannah Kear. I am still deliberating if she was married before. Now I need her parents. Regards Barbara. Thank you for your leads.

Mary Ann Court KEAR 1852 St Briavels (reply)

unknown — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:30:28 +0000

I have found a burial record for Mary Ann Court Kear dated Feb 16th 1883 so I think this is not Mary Ann who married John Bennett in 1900 and had 5 children. I am now looking at the other Kear records you uncovered, thanks.

Elias KEAR 1847 - ? Bream Eaves (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 07:47:56 +0000

Thats about what I have found too, and a "feeling" that there is more to Mary Hannah than at first appears :-)

Elias KEAR 1847 - ? Bream Eaves (reply)

AnneRafferty — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 07:38:16 +0000

Elias Kear who married Mary Ann Wilding was brother to my GGGrandmother Charlotte. I've been unable to find any trace of Elias and Mary Ann after their marriage in 1871. The witnesses at their wedding, Thomas and Mary Baldwin, were I think, Elias's sister and brother in law. They moved to Castleford, West Yorkshire as did another 6 of Elias's brothers and sisters.I did wonder whether Elias had gone there too but have found no trace.

regards
Anne

Elias KEAR 1847 - ? Bream Eaves (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:25:47 +0000

1871
Mary Kear 68
Edit Kear 51
Elias Kear 23

1861 Mill Hill nr Bream
Mary Rear abt 1804 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Edith Rear abt 1823 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Enoch Rear abt 1836 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizah Rear abt 1838 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Rear abt 1845 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Caleb Rear abt 1846 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Grandson West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elias Rear abt 1848 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1851 Bream Eaves
Enoch Kear abt 1801 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Kear abt 1803 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Edith Kear abt 1823 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Rhoda Kear abt 1827 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Annis Kear abt 1830 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Fanny Kear abt 1833 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Kear abt 1835 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Enoch Kear abt 1836 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizah Kear abt 1838 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Kear abt 1840 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Afilah Kear abt 1842 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Kear abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Caleb Kear abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elias Kear abt 1848 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Elias Kear
Year of Registration: 1847
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 91

1841
Enock Kocer abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Kocer abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Annah Kocer abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Anner Kocer abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Charlotte Kocer abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Edef Kocer abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Elizab Kocer abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Emma Kocer abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Enock Kocer abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Francis Kocer abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Rada Kocer abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Rhoda Kear abt 1827 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Caleb Kear abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson West Dean Gloucestershire

Mary Hannah BENNETT nee KEAR (nee WILDING ?)1850- 1938 (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:44:39 +0000

So they appear to marry after the birth of their children.

What other information is on the Marriage Cert ?

Name: Mary Hannah Kear
Name: John Bennett
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 601

Year: 1938
Month: Apr
Day: 25
Surname: BENNETT
Forenames: Mary Hannah
Residence: 20 Stockwell Green
Age_at_death: 87
Officiating_Minister: Tom T Haines Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/15
Page_No: 216
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns

Name: Mary Hannah Kear
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: [8_]0

Did Mary Ann first marry into the KEAR family ( or was she technically a KEAR by birth) ?

Year 1871
Month Jul
Day 31
Grooms Surname KEAR
Grooms Forenames Elias
Grooms Age 24
Groom Condition Bachelor
Grooms Occupation Collier
Grooms Residence Bream
Grooms Fathers Surname Kear
Grooms Fathers Forenames Enoch
Grooms Fathers Occupation Collier
Brides Surname WILDING
Brides Forenames Mary Ann
Brides Age 21
Brides Condition Spinster
Brides Occupation [not stated]
Brides Residence Bream
Brides Fathers Surname Wilding
Brides Fathers Forenames George
Brides Fathers Occupation Collier
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns
Signature or Mark Both mark
Witness 1 Thomas Baldwin
Witness 2 Mary Baldwin
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister J.F. Gosling
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P57 IN 1/8
Page Number 70
Parish Chapel Bream

1871
George Wildin 48
Charlote Wildin 46
Thomas Wildin 24
Mary A Wildin 19
Harriet Wildin 17
Betsy Wildin 14
Richard Wildin 12
John Wildin 11
Frederick Wildin 8
Henry Wildin 5
Howard Wildin 3
George Wildin 3 months

1861
George Wilding abt 1829 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charlotte Wilding abt 1830 Whiteeroft, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Wilding abt 1844 Whiteeroft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizth Wilding abt 1846 Whiteeroft, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Wilding abt 1846 Whiteeroft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Wilding abt 1848 Whiteeroft, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Wilding abt 1850 Whiteeroft, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriet Wilding abt 1854 Whiteeroft, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Richard Wilding abt 1859 Whiteeroft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Wilding abt 1860 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

John BENNETT 1847 ? Steam Mills (reply)

unknown — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:18:53 +0000

Re Mary Kear. Were her parents Enoch (1836) and Mary (1833)? Haven't found Mary Kear on any censuses before 1881.

John BENNETT 1847 ? Steam Mills (reply)

unknown — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:45:05 +0000

My apologies. John was born, as you said, in about 1851. (I have looked at my records and I don't know where I got 1863 from.) In 1881 census John was living in Factory row with 2 daughters. By 1891 they have 3 daughters and 2 sons.

Further back, is John's father James? I can see a John Bennett with brother William and sister Mary with James and Deborah as Parents in the 1861 census. Do you think this is right? John is a common name, it's likely I have the wrong one. Are there other choices?

Many regards,Barbara

Mary Ann Court KEAR 1852 St Briavels (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:36:50 +0000

Year: 1852
Month: Feb
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: KEAR
Child_Forenames: Mary Ann Court
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Esther
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: St Briavels
Occupation: Haulier
Officiating_Minister: J.Lewis Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 54
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels

1861
Thomas Kear abt 1813 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Head St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Hurston Kear abt 1822 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Ann Kear abt 1848 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavel, Gloucestershire
John Milson Kear abt 1849 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Hoater Kear abt 1850 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Kear abt 1852 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Charley Kear abt 1853 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Thomas Sharp Kear abt 1854 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire
William Court Kear abt 1857 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Exton Turner Kear abt 1859 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire

1871 St Briavels
Thomas Kear 61
Hester Kear 49
Mary Ann Kear 18
Charles Grenies Kear 17
William Court Kear 13
Exton Turner Kear 11

Name: Mary Ann C Kear
appears to marry
Albert Davis or Thomas Harkwell
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Chepstow
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 1

1881
Albert Davis abt 1855 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Head St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Davis abt 1854 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Exton Turner Davis abt 1880 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavels, Gloucestershire

1891
Esther Kear abt 1821 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Head St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Charles Kear abt 1857 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Exton Davis abt 1880 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Grandson St Briavel, Gloucestershire

John BENNETT 1847 ? Steam Mills (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:08:37 +0000

Barbara

I'm sure "we" have the correct line for you in the previous post looking for Samuel Bennett.

I have added this morning dauughter Florence who became a Cook and had a daughter Frances, which fits with your information.

regards
S

John BENNETT 1847 ? Steam Mills (reply)

unknown — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:24:58 +0000

We had the wrong John Bennett. It turns out that my John Bennett, born in 1863, was the one that took his family to Yorkshire looking for work then came back. He was not the one born in 1847 that went over the river to Westbury on Trym. The last search was connected with my Grandfather whose parents I had not found when we were in touch before. Now I know Sam's parents were John (1863) and Mary (1852) and I am trying to go further back. Thanks for your continued interest.

John BENNETT 1847 ? Steam Mills (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:42:41 +0000

I thought we had chased out John BENNETT 1847 ???

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&id=24705

Mary Ann Kear

unknown — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:37:37 +0000

I believe my Grandfather's parents were Mary Ann Kear born 1852 and John Bennett born 1863. John was born in Cinderford and Mary in Bream. They married in 1900 and had 5 children between about 1877 and 1888. I'm now looking for Mary Ann Kear's parents and John Bennett's parents. Can anyone help?