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<title>Another Huge Romany Gypsy FH Website (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alexander, I do hope you may have found something of this of help/interest ??, if not please ask again.</p>
<p>I've just found another huge website devoted to the history of Romany people in the UK, I thought you might like to know about it, apologies if you already knew it. This site is the trimmed-down Family History &quot;offshoot&quot; off the original site which also contains history, photos etc etc. I have used the site's own search engine looking for &quot;Tippings, &quot;Ruardean and &quot;Walford&quot; but sadly all without success. However its an impressive site and I'm sure will benefit from further research... Good luck !</p>
<p><a href="http://romanygenes2.webeden.co.uk/#">http://romanygenes2.webeden.co.uk/#</a></p>
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<p>UPDATE Jan 2024  -  sadly the above website is now in archive mode, so not so easy to use, see<br />
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210423045021/http://romanygenes2.webeden.co.uk/">https://web.archive.org/web/20210423045021/http://romanygenes2.webeden.co.uk/</a></p>
<p>However there are links to other Romany/Gipsy sites here<br />
<a href="https://www.ukgdl.org.uk/category/travellers">https://www.ukgdl.org.uk/category/travellers</a></p>
<p>And last but def not least, I see this FoDFH site now includes a link for &quot;Gypsy&quot; research, see under G here<br />
<a href="https://forest-of-dean.net/joomla/index.php/links/24-genealogy-research">https://forest-of-dean.net/joomla/index.php/links/24-genealogy-research</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the Rootswebb link, <br />
Yes Slowhands I must admit when I read it I thought the layout rather looked like your fair hand, but being a relative newby to all this I assumed that you had maybe been on the Rootsweb site in times past and didn't realise the full history wrt who did what first. I did search this forum for prior threads albeit of a Romany nature so sorry missed this one. Either way as long as our efforts help Alexander or any others researchers I'm happy.<br />
These cheeky people who shamelessly trawl the internet are SO annoying ! <br />
Jeff  ;-)</p>
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(Altho in my defence I always acknowledge such sites where possible)</p>
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<p>UPDATE Jan 2024, <br />
that Tippins etc forum link posted over ten years ago is now broken, this will hopefully work in it's place<br />
<a href="https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=657">https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=657</a></p>
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<title>TIPPINS Ruardean - prior thread (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Google also found this old Rootslink thread which maybe of interest, interestingly wrt the above it discusses Tippins as Romany sweeps in the Forest. It also lists some old census returns of Tippins households in the Ruardean hence Walford areas.<br />
<a href="http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,555069.msg4084411.html">http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,555069.msg4084411.html</a></p>
</blockquote><p>which was lifted from this site !</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=657">http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=657</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My Tippins family lived in and around Walford from the 1600s.  An aunt told me that her sister went to visit her cousins and returned saying that she would never go again as &quot;they were black Welsh devils&quot;.  It seems that they were Welsh speaking but were they Gypsies.  Does anyone know if Tippins is a Romany name?</p>
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Year: 1810 <br />
Month: May <br />
Day: 5 <br />
Parents_Surname: TIPPINS <br />
Child_Forenames: Richard <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Mary <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: [not stated] <br />
Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Officiating_Minister: [not stated] <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: AO19/3 <br />
Page_Number: 0 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Walford </p>
<p><br />
Year: 1832 <br />
Month: Aug <br />
Day: 6 <br />
Grooms_Surname: TIPPINS <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Richard <br />
Grooms_Age: [not stated] <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Grooms_Residence: Walford <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:  <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:  <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Surname: WHITING <br />
Brides_Forenames: Sarah <br />
Brides_Age: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Residence: Walford <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname:  <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:  <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:  <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs <br />
Witness_1: Mark of Thomas Parsons <br />
Witness_2: Mark of Martha Williams <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: T. D. Fosbroke Vicar <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes: Bride signed Whiteing <br />
Register_Reference: AO19/6 <br />
Page_Number: 84 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Walford </p>
<p><br />
1841<br />
Richd Tippins abt 1811 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 Sarah Tippins abt 1812 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 Jane Tippins abt 1833 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 William Tippins abt 1838 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire </p>
<p>1851<br />
Richard Tippins abt 1812 Walford, Herefordshire, England Head Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 Sarah Tippins  abt 1812 Walford, Herefordshire, England Wife Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 William Tippins  abt 1839 Walford, Herefordshire, England Son Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 Mary Tippins  abt 1842 Walford, Herefordshire, England Daughter Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 George Tippins  abt 1844 Walford, Herefordshire, England Son Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 Edwin Tippins  abt 1847 Walford, Herefordshire, England Son Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 Henry Tippins  abt 1850 Walford, Herefordshire, England Son Walford, Herefordshire </p>
<p><br />
Jane 1833 marries a BARTON<br />
son<br />
Name: George William Barton <br />
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1860 <br />
Registration district: Cardiff <br />
Inferred County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire <br />
Volume: 11a <br />
Page: 235  </p>
<p>1861<br />
Richard Tippins  abt 1810 Walford, Herefordshire, England Head Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 Sarah Tippins  abt 1811 Walford, Herefordshire, England Wife Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 Edwin Tippins  abt 1846 Walford, Herefordshire, England Son Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 Henry Tippins abt 1849 Walford, Herefordshire, England Son Walford, Herefordshire  <br />
 George Barton  abt 1860 Cardiff Grandson Walford, Herefordshire</p>
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1861<br />
 Jane Barton  abt 1833 ??Eford, Herefordshire, England Servant Whitchurch, Glamorgan </p>
<p>Name: Jane Barton<br />
Name: Samuel Davey <br />
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1864 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Herefordshire <br />
Volume Number: 6a <br />
Page Number: 131 / 951 ?</p>
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Year: 1864 <br />
Month: Nov <br />
Day: 6 <br />
Grooms_Surname: DAVEY <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Samuel <br />
Grooms_Age: full age <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Furnaceman <br />
Grooms_Residence: Whitchurch near Cardiff <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Davey <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Job <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Laborer <br />
Brides_Surname: BARTON <br />
Brides_Forenames: Jane <br />
Brides_Age: full age <br />
Brides_Condition: Widow <br />
Brides_Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Residence: Walford <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Tippins <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Laborer <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns: [not stated] <br />
Signature_or_Mark: both sign <br />
Witness_1: Mark of Richard Tippins <br />
Witness_2: Mary Lane <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: Arthur Stonhouse Vicar <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: AO19/11 <br />
Page_Number: 122 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Walford </p>
<p><br />
Year: 1869 <br />
Month: Oct <br />
Day: 22 <br />
Surname: TIPPINS <br />
Forenames: Richard <br />
Residence: Walford <br />
Age_at_death: 59 <br />
Officiating_Minister: Arthur Stonhouse Vicar <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: AO19/11 <br />
Page_No: 147 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Walford </p>
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<p>1871 Whitchurch Cardiff<br />
Samuel Davey 35 workier in sheet iron works<br />
Jane Davey 38 <br />
John Harry Davey 5 <br />
Richard T Davey 2 </p>
<p>1881<br />
Samuel Davey abt 1837 Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales Head Whitchurch, Glamorgan  <br />
 Jane Davey  abt 1833 Walford, Hereford, England Wife Whitchurch, Glamorgan  <br />
 Geo.W. Barton  abt 1861 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Step Son Whitchurch, Glamorgan  <br />
 John H. Davey abt 1866 Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales Son Whitchurch, Glamorgan  <br />
 Richard T. Davey abt 1869 Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales Son Whitchurch, Glamorgan  <br />
 Mary J. Davey abt 1872 Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Whitchurch, Glamorgan</p>
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1891<br />
Samuel Davey  abt 1836 Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales Head St John, Glamorgan  <br />
 Jane Davey  abt 1833 Walford, Herefordshire, England Wife St John, Glamorgan  <br />
 John Davey abt 1865 Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales Son St John, Glamorgan  <br />
 May Davey abt 1872 Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter St John, Glamorgan  <br />
 Mary Saunders  abt 1820 Cardiff; St John Cousin St John, Glamorgan </p>
<p>1901<br />
Samuel Davey  abt 1837 Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales Head Roath, Glamorgan  <br />
 Jane Davey  abt 1833 Ross, Herefordshire, England Wife Roath, Glamorgan  <br />
 Mary Jane Davey  abt 1872 Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Roath, Glamorgan </p>
<p>Name: Jane Davey <br />
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 <br />
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1908 <br />
Age at Death: 74 <br />
Registration district: Cardiff <br />
Inferred County: Glamorganshire <br />
Volume: 11a <br />
Page: 257</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Alex,<br />
Googling the above I found this site which maybe of interest to you, I think it lists those people from the 1881 UK Census who appear to have Romany connections.<br />
<a href="http://theromany.weebly.com/1881-census-for-gypsy-and-gipsy-all-counties.html">http://theromany.weebly.com/1881-census-for-gypsy-and-gipsy-all-counties.html</a></p>
<p>The reason Google found this site for me was it found this Tippins, the only one on the whole site and in our area, is he any relation/ancestor to you ??</p>
<p>&quot;William Tippins , Bc 1867 Mitchel Dean, Gloucestershire, England Adapted Son Newland, Gloucestershire.&quot; </p>
<p>I assume this should maybe read &quot;Adopted Son&quot; ?</p>
<p><br />
Google also found this old Rootslink thread which maybe of interest, interestingly wrt the above it discusses Tippins as Romany sweeps in the Forest. It also lists some  old census returns of Tippins households in the Ruardean hence Walford areas.<br />
<a href="http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,555069.msg4084411.html">http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,555069.msg4084411.html</a></p>
<p>It opens &quot;i came across an article called 'Gypsies in the Forest of Dean' the lady who wrote it said &quot;A lot of gypsies camped in the Forest especially over the winter. A favourite place was the woods behind Crump Meadow Colliery. My Dad remembers three families, the Tingles, Tippins and Tingles. He knows a good bit of Romany from playing with the children.&quot;</p>
<p>That article also mentions a painting by Bernard Ninnes called 'The Severn near Lydney' which  was exhibited at the Royal Academy in 1936. It shows some gaily-painted gypsy caravans with the Severn in the background, search the net and you'll find an image.  It's likely the location &quot;near Lydney&quot; refers to Viney Hill, which was a popular spot for The King of the Gypsies' Xavier Petulengro who is buried at Viney Hill church, which has apparently always been known as the Gypsies Church. He was a horse trader, violinist, writer, broadcaster and an astrologer. His paternal Grandfather was Jasper Petulengro, immortalised in George Borrows books 'Lavengro' and 'The Romany Rye'. The name Petulengro means Blacksmith. <br />
<a href="https://www.sungreen.co.uk/Viney_Hill/Gypsy_King.html">https://www.sungreen.co.uk/Viney_Hill/Gypsy_King.html</a><br />
<a href="https://www.sungreen.co.uk/Viney_Hill/Gypsy_King.html">https://www.sungreen.co.uk/Viney_Hill/Gypsy_King.html</a></p>
<p>Another comment was &quot; Try Tappin(s).  I remember somewhere that this is a variation on Tapsell (Gypsy). Given the degree of illiteracy, a small change of accent can sometimes be the key.&quot;</p>
<p>Searching this site's PRs for these gives<br />
Year Surname First Name Event Parish/Chapel More detail <br />
1901 TAPSELL Daisy Gertrude Baptism Christchurch More detail <br />
1904 TAPSELL Lilian May Baptism Christchurch More detail <br />
1936 TAPSILL Ada Burial Christchurch More detail <br />
1924 TAPSELL Daisy Gertrude Marriage Christchurch More detail <br />
1939 TAPSELL May Lillian Marriage Christchurch More detail<br />
1797 TAPPIN Robert Baptism Staunton near Newent More detail <br />
1917 TAPPENS Gerard William Baptism Drybrook More detail <br />
1917 TAPPENS Iris Eva Baptism Drybrook More detail </p>
<p>???</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In the unlikely event you haven't already searched this forum, this prior thread re Romanies discusses the Ruardean Tippins &amp; will hopefully be of interest. One poster comments &quot;All the Tippins that I could find were born in the Forest but some did move to Wales.... I was sent some info on the Tippins family by some family who emigrated to New Zealand.&quot;<br />
<a href="https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=19512">https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=19512</a></p>
<p>I hope at least some of this is of interest.<br />
It all suggests to me that yes Tippins may well be a Romany name.</p>
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atb Jeff</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex,<br />
all I can add is that in modern times Tippins appears to be almost unigue to our neck of the woods, particularly Herefordshire judging from past Census statistics <br />
<a href="http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Map2.aspx?name=TIPPINS&amp;year=1881&amp;altyear=1998&amp;country=GB&amp;type=name">http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Map2.aspx?name=TIPPINS&amp;year=1881&amp;altyear=1998...</a></p>
<p>However a quick &quot;Google&quot; also gave sites believing it was of Lancashire origin, or Devon, but without giving their reasoning !!??. </p>
<p>My preferred site states<br />
&quot;This interesting# surname with variant spellings Tippins, Typpens, etc., is a patronymic of the name Tippin, itself a diminutive of Tibb, a pet-form of the French personal name Theobald, from a Germanic personal name composed of the elements &quot;theudo&quot; meaning &quot;people, race&quot; plus &quot;bald&quot;, &quot;bold, brave&quot;. The surname dates back to the early 14th Century.....&quot;<br />
The site adds &quot;A Coat of Arms was granted to a Tippen family in Gloucestershire during the reign of King Henry V111 (1509 - 1547), consisting of a silver shield depicting three red lion's heads erased with gold crowns. Between the heads is a chevron with a central bezant (gold coin).&quot;<br />
So this supports it being a local surname of some importance. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Tipens">http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Tipens</a></p>
<p>So, no specific mention of Romany origins although maybe it is from &quot;travelling&quot; people if it has French-Germanic origins via Lancs and/or Devon ??</p>
<p># &quot;interesting&quot; = it seems it's almost anyone's guess !?!?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can't see TIPPINS in the names listed on this website</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Tippins family lived in and around Walford from the 1600s.  An aunt told me that her sister went to visit her cousins and returned saying that she would never go again as &quot;they were black Welsh devils&quot;.  It seems that they were Welsh speaking but were they Gypsies.  Does anyone know if Tippins is a Romany name?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husbands great grandmother was Ellen Tippins who married an Edward Worgan.  Could they have possibly been your relatives.</p>
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<p>1871 Pillowell<br />
Edward Worgan 35 <br />
Elen Lippins 31 <br />
Elizabeth Worgan Tepperman 11 <br />
Harriett M Worgan Tepperman 9 <br />
Henry Worgan Tepperman 6 <br />
Julia Worgan Tippen 1</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tippins could you tell me please where your family came from, in Wales. I am Welsh spoken and interested in Welsh History, perhaps I can help you.  <br />
Best wishes<br />
Lisa</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my Tippins family in Bishopswood were Welsh speaking and a lot of the surnames on tombstones in Walford church were Welsh,does anyone know how common Welsh<br />
was in the early 1800s?</p>
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