Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Stephen BRYANT

Stephen BRYANT (reply)

MJL — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:51:44 +0000

Does anyone else think it odd that when Stephen married his first wife he 'signed' and at his second marriage he 'marked'
MJL

Sarah BRYANT burial 1871 (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:34:33 +0000

Sarah dies shortly after the 1871 census

Sarah BRYANT burial (reply)

PhilipN — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:03:09 +0000

Another possibility for the death of his second wife . Her first child,Maria died in New Zealand and I am aware that later family moved to Canada. She may have emigrated with one of them.

Sarah RUCK 1812 Littledean (reply)

PhilipN — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:26:44 +0000

Yes!!

Stephen BRYANT burial (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:04:21 +0000

A number of possibilities -

Perhaps he had become "non conformist" by then, perhaps he was buried back in Yate ?

I'm sure there are others :-)

Note Sarah Bryant is not in the FoD burial transcripts having died in 1871 WoS

Stephen BRYANT (reply)

MJL — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:57:30 +0000

Thank you both for putting me on the right track.
Is there a reason why Stephen's death is not in the Parish Records?
MJL

Stephen BRYANT (reply)

Bra1thwell — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:21:22 +0000

The research I have done definitely points to Stephen Bryant passing away 1874 (Westbury) as per Slowhands note. I am pretty certain because of tracking each Census (1841/51/61/71) and Stephen's co-inhabitants plus the consistent references back to his age/birthplace/vocation (he was a Cordwainer). So I think you have solved that bit of your puzzle.
Ian

Stephen BRYANT (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:04:34 +0000

There is both a Westerleigh and a Yate Stephen B, Its the Yate one who moved to and died in the FoD .....

1861
Stephen Bryant abt 1799 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Head Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire

1861
Stephen Bryant abt 1804 Westerleigh, Gloucestershire, England Head Walcot, Somerset

Name: Stephen Bryant
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 78
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 161

Stephen BRYANT (reply)

MJL — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:51:43 +0000

Welcome to our complicated family Ian

I am a great grandaughter of Stephen Bryant b 1799/1802.

I have been trying to find out when and where Stephen and his two wives died.
When my grandparents Alice and Arthur Bryant married in 1885 Arthur stated his father Stephen was deceased.
My research has so far come up with a possible birth in Westerleigh in about 1802,
if this is correct he can be found in the 1881 census age 79 living at 30, Upper Cheltenham Place Bristol, wih a grandson Stephen Edwin Bryant and family, and a possible death in Bath in 1883.
I am sure Slowhands will correct me if I have completely lost the plot.

Regards,
MJL

Sarah RUCK 1812 Littledean (reply)

Bra1thwell — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:10:33 +0000

Hello Mr/Miss/Mrs Slowhands....thanks for the input, much appreciated.

Sarah RUCK 1812 Littledean (reply)

Bra1thwell — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:08:44 +0000

You wouldn't be the same Phil that I have been corresponding with on Ancestry would you?

Stephen BRYANT (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:22:03 +0000

Ian

Apologies - altered my message as requested (we've just been away with 3 small grandchildren, so brain dead at the moment...)

Stephen BRYANT (reply)

Bra1thwell — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:52:11 +0000

Blimey...thanks for the speedy help guys, much appreciated!

Could "m p griffiths" please help me to understand what the record is that has been posted (is it a child's baptism?). If so, what is the significance of, what appears to be, 3 children being listed in total?

Sorry if I'm being a bit thick!

Ian

Stephen BRYANT (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:55:14 +0000

from CD Westbury on Severn St Peter & Paul (but also on FOD records)

parents: Stephen (Cordwainer) & Sarah BRIANT

children:

Elizabeth BRIANT - 30 May 1819
Eliza BRIANT- 15 January 1826
Samuel BRYAN - 14 October 1823

1841 Census Littledean

Just above Stephen is
George BRYANT - age 30 - Collier

then next

Stephen BRYANT 1801
Samuel age 15 - (Samuel BRYAN - 14 October 1823)
Elina (transcribed) but is Eliza - age 15 (15 January 1826)

on the 1841 census, ages rounded up to the near 5 years.

1841 Census, Yate

Stephen BRYANT age 70 - Farmer - born in County
Mary JONES - 20 (think Female Servant) not born in County

IGI Batch Numbers for Gloucestershire - Yate

Samuel & Sarah BRIANT

Stephen - 7 May 1797
Samuel - 7 January 1795
Mary - 4 January 1795
Hannah - 2 January 1800

Sarah RUCK 1812 Littledean (reply)

PhilipN — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:51:45 +0000

Likely candidate for Sarah's parents William married Mary Oakey 25/11/1811 at Littledean.

Samuel BRYANT 1784 Westerleigh (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 05:39:24 +0000

A possible for Stephen's father
however BRYANT is a "common" surname in this part of South Gloucestershire

Samuel Bryant
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 01 AUG 1784 Westerleigh, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: Stephen Bryant
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C172661 1599 - 1640 1596176 IT 9 Film NONE
C172661 1660 - 1812 1596176 IT 9 Film NONE
Sheet:

Sarah RUCK 1812 Littledean (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:41:09 +0000

Year: 1812
Month: Jun
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: RUCK
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Prowse Jones Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: daug[hte]r of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

Sarah HILL 1796 (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:38:23 +0000

A candidate ?

Year: 1796
Month: Oct
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: HILL
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Johanna
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Wm Morgan Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 17
Parish_Chapel: Flaxley

Stephen BRYANT 1797 Yate (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:27:42 +0000

(Sarah Hill around 1818) and Sarah Ruck later

STEPHEN BRIANT
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 07 MAY 1797 Yate, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: SAMUEL BRIANT
Mother: SARAH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C058591 1609 - 1812 0427813 Film 6912019 Film
Sheet: 00

Year: 1818
Month: Aug
Day: 13
Grooms_Surname: BRYANT
Grooms_Forenames: Stephen
Grooms_Age: [Not stated]
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: [Not stated]
Grooms_Residence: Of this Parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [Not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [Not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [Not stated]
Brides_Surname: HILL
Brides_Forenames: Sarah
Brides_Age: [Not stated]
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [Not stated]
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [Not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [Not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [Not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [Not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: John Grindon
Witness_2: Mark of Elizabeth Bailey
Other_Witnesses: Anth[ony] Bennett
Officiating_Minister: Rich[ard] Wetherell Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 15
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

1841 Littledean Hill
Stephen Bryant abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Elina Bryant abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Samuel Bryant abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

and nearby
George Bryant abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

and again down the hill
John Bryant abt 1822 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriett Bryant abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Bryant abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire

1851
Stephen Bryant 52
Eliza Bryant 25
Alfred Bryant Elizer 6
Sarah Ruck 40
Maria Ruck 11
Stephen Ruck 5

Year: 1861
Month: Jun
Day: 11
Grooms_Surname: BRYANT
Grooms_Forenames: Stephen
Grooms_Age: 62
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Shoemaker
Grooms_Residence: Little Dean's Hill
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Bryant
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Samuel
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Brides_Surname: RUCK
Brides_Forenames: Sarah
Brides_Age: 49
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Little Dean's Hill
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Ruck
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Thomas Meredith
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Ruck
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Gosselin Smythies
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 177
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns

1861
Stephen Bryant abt 1799 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Head Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire
Sarah Bryant abt 1812 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire
Maria Bryant abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire
Arther Bryant abt 1853 Experochial, Gloucestershire, England Son Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire
Alfred Bryant abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire

1871
Stephen Bryant 73 Yate
Sarah Bryant 58 Cinderford
Arthur Bryant 17 Dockham
Jane Sier 14 Dockham

Name: Sarah Bryant
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 59
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 172

Stephen BRYANT

Bra1thwell — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:53:05 +0000

Stephen Bryant is my Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandfather (I think that's the right amount of Greats!), he was born around 1799 (Littledean) plied his trade as a Cordwainer (Shoemaker) and married twice (Sarah Hill around 1818) and Sarah Ruck later. I can trace the Bryant side of my family back to Stephen (his father was almost certainly Samuel Bryant), but then it all gets a bit vague. Any pointers going further back in time for both ancestors of the Bryants and/or Hills would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Ian

I M Bryant (South Yorkshire descendant)