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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &quot;areas&quot; overlap rather than being exclusive/unique:-</p>
<p>Its Gloucestershire for County</p>
<p>Its West Dean for the census / admin. district (district 5h to be precise)</p>
<p>Its Christchurch for the Parish</p>
<p>Its physically in the Five Acres / Berry Hill area</p>
<p>confusing eh ?</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>James Adams (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Registration District: Monmouth, Sub Reg. - Coleford</p>
<p><br />
The heading at the top of the census page says - Ecclesiastical District <em>Christchurch </em>- perhaps another forum member can answer your question.</p>
<p>The Enumerator notes say</p>
<p>All that part of the Township of West Dean comprising the Porch and Buckholt Inclosures, Cannop Chemical Works, Vallets Level the North side of the Turnpike Road from Coleford to Little Dean, Coleford Lane End, Five Acres, New Thatch or Independent Pit.</p>
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John ADAMS is next door - but one - to -  Ricd B MESENGER,  (listed on Ancestry as <em>Ricd B MAINGER </em>- Registrar of Births &amp; Deaths and Relieving Office (so probably a surname on your James' birth certificate) - his wife Marieanne - age 45, born West Dean and Hannah WORGAN? - aunt and 77 also born West Dean.</p>
<p><br />
Richard Benwell MESSENGER (Jnr &amp; Snr) + Mary Ann MESSENGER - records on FOD - <br />
Christchurch</p>
<p><em>just for interest.....</em></p>
<p>1841 Census, Dean Forest, Ross<br />
BERRY HILL</p>
<p>Richard MESSENGER - 40, Schoolmaster - not born in count<br />
Mary Ann MESSENGER - 36<br />
Richard MESSENGER - 3<br />
Mary WINTAL - 70 - SK<br />
Hannah WORGAN - 60</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your input, much appreciated.</p>
<p>I have the 1851 Census which shows that John &amp; Margaret were living in West Dean &amp; all of their children were born there.</p>
<p>On James Adams census' for 1871, 1881 &amp; 1891 it states he was born in either Berry hill or Coleford.</p>
<p>I'm still a little confused as on your baptism details it states James was baptised at Christ church, Berry Hill &amp; his father was a collier.<br />
On the 1851 census it mentions that the family were in Christchurch parish at West Dean.</p>
<p>Does Christchurch parish cover both Berry Hil &amp; West Dean?<br />
Or are there 2 parishes with the same name within a dozen miles of each other?</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>James ADAMS 1843 Five Acres/ Berry Hill (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>w/o the marriage certificate - can't say for sure,</em></p>
<p>but I'd go for son of John and Margaret too</p>
<p>Year: 1843 <br />
Month: Dec <br />
Day: 7 <br />
Parents_Surname: ADAMS <br />
Child_Forenames: James <br />
Fathers_Forenames: John <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Five Acres <br />
Occupation: Collier <br />
Officiating_Minister: T.R. Garnsey <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: 8212 <br />
Page_Number: 84 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch</p>
<p>1841 ex Parochial Five Acres<br />
John Addams abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Margaret Addams abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire  <br />
 John Addams abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire [3 months]</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, there is another child, Margaret age 10 on the 1881 census</p>
<p>1891 Census, James ADAMS is age 47 c 1844, born Coleford</p>
<p>1881 Census, Newland, Redbrook</p>
<p>James ADAMS - 37, Brewer, Glos. Berry Hill<br />
Harriet - 40, born Monmouth Trellick<br />
Margaret - 10 - all children born Glos. Redbrook<br />
James 8, Mary 6, Florence 5, Edith 2, Beatrice 9 months</p>
<p><br />
1871 Census, Newland, Redbrook</p>
<p>James ADAMS - 26, Brewer, born Newland<br />
Harriet ADAMS - 29, born Monmouthshire, Trelleck<br />
Margaret H ADAMS - 2 months, born Newland</p>
<p>Margaret Anna ADAMS, christened 5 March 1871, at Newland, parents James (Brewer) and Harriet - address Redbrook</p>
<p><br />
FreeBDM</p>
<p>James ADAMS married Harriet MORGAN - March Qtr 1870 (Monmouth District) which includes Trelleck</p>
<p>w/o the marriage certificate - can't say for sure, whose James parents where.......  1851 census - which includes Coleford Lane End is a possibility (with a mother named Margaret)</p>
<p>1851 Census. Glos West Dean<br />
Five Acres</p>
<p>John ADAMS - 40 - Ag. Lab. all born West Dean Glos.<br />
Margret - 38<br />
John - 10<br />
James - 7<br />
Tom -5<br />
Edwin - 1</p>
<p>If you use the Advanced Search (Baptisms - parents John &amp; Margaret ADAMS)  some are in Redbrook.   </p>
<p>James ADAMS - 7 December 1843, Five Acres</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking for information on James Adams born in either Berry Hill or Coleford in 1845.<br />
He raised his family in Newland near Redbrook, appearing in the 1881 &amp; 1891 census' as a Brewer.<br />
His Wife was Harriet Morgan originally from Trelleck, Monmouthshire.<br />
There children were William James(1873) Emily Mary(1875) Edith Annie Alice(1876 my g grandma) Florence(1879) Sarah Ellen (1883) and finally John Labon (1885).<br />
Any help or pointers would be much appreciated.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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