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Year: 1819
Month: May
Day: 26
Grooms_Surname: HALL
Grooms_Forenames: Samuel
Grooms_Age: [not stated]
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: Forest of Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: MORGAN
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age: [not stated]
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Walford cum Ruardean
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Cornelius Brain
Witness_2: Mark of Ann Brain
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: T. D. Fosbrooke Min[iste]r
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/6
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Walford

1820 HALL Edwin Samuel Hannah Drybook Carpenter Drybrook
1823 HALL Ann Samuel Hannah Morse Carpenter Drybrook
1825 HALL James Samuel Hannah Morse Carpenter Drybrook
1827 HALL Sarah Samuel Hannah Morse Lane Carpenter Drybrook
1829 HALE John Samuel Hannah Morse Lane Carpenter Drybrook
1832 HALL Samuel Samuel Hannah Morse Lane Carpenter Drybrook
1834 HALL William Samuel Hannah Morse Lane Carpenter Drybrook
1836 HALL Walter Samuel Hannah Morse Lane Carpenter Drybrook
1838 HALL Joseph Samuel Hannah Morse Lane Carpenter Drybrook
1840 HALL Tom Samuel Hannah Bilson Carpenter Drybrook
1843 HALL George Samuel Hannah Bilson Carpenter Drybrook

1841
Sameul Hale 46
Hanah Hale 40
Edwin Hale 20
James Hale 15
Sarah Hale 10
John Hale 10
Sameul Hale 8
Walter Hale 5
Joseph Hale 3
Tom Hale 7 Mo

1851
Samuel Hall abt 1800 Langariter, Herefordshire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Hall abt 1801 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Samuel Hall abt 1832 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Hall abt 1834 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Walter Hall abt 1836 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Hall abt 1838 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Hall abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Hall abt 1843 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
Hannah Hall abt 1802 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Samuel Hall abt 1804 Hangonan, Herefordshire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Hall abt 1854 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Visitor East Dean, Gloucestershire

An Ann from the Morse born 1821 ish....

Name: Ann Hull or Ann Morgan
Name: Timothy Parsons
Year of Registration: 1838
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 26
Page: 313

possible an Ann HALL with a mother maiden name MORGAN:-
Year 1823
Month Mar
Day 16
Parents Surname HALL
Child Forenames Ann
Fathers Forenames Samuel
Mothers Forenames Hannah
Mothers Surname
Residence Morse
Occupation Carpenter
Officiating Minister W. Marshall
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/1
Page Number 40
Parish Chapel Drybrook

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1841
Timy Parsons abt 1817 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Ann Parsons abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest,
Jas Parsons abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851
Timothy Parson abt 1817 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Parson abt 1822 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Parson abt 1841 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Parson abt 1843 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rhode Parson abt 1850 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Israel Parson abt 1851 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
Timothy Parsons abt 1817 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Parsons abt 1821 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Parsons abt 1841 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Parsons abt 1843 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rhoda Parsons abt 1844 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Israel Parsons abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Lucy Parsons abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Timothy Parsons abt 1853 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Parsons abt 1854 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Walter Parsons abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Samuel Parsons abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane Parsons abt 1861 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
Timothy Parsons 54 Ruardean
Ann Parsons 49 Morse Lane
Israel Parsons 20
Timothy Parsons 12
Sarah Parsons 16
Walker Parsons 15
Samuel Parsons 12

1881
Timothy Parsons abt 1817 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Parsons abt 1823 Morse, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Walter Parsons abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Samuel Parsons abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1886
Month: Nov
Day: 21
Surname: PARSONS
Forenames: Ann
Residence: Crump Meadow Colliery
Age_at_death: 65
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/13
Page_No: 9
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

Year: 1887
Month: May
Day: 15
Surname: PARSONS
Forenames: Timothy
Residence: Crump Meadow
Age_at_death: 71
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/13
Page_No: 14
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

Slowhands Brilliant as ever.

We in the UK (USA in October) have just enjoyed a very good series on BBC1 about a modern day Sherlock Holmes. When will we get a series "Slowhands the Detective" !!

As you noted James Parsons 1823 who married Theophillia Meredith 1826 was the son of James Parsons 1794 & Mary Parker 1798. The baptism for Timothy Parsons 25 Aug 1716 was also the son of James Parsons 1794 & Mary Parker 1798. Timothy married an Ann but I cannot find more about her :

1851 Census East Dean
PARSONS Timothy 34 Engineer Ruardean
Ann 29 Ruardean
James 10 Scholar Ruardean
Eliza 8 Scholar Ruardean
Rhoda 1 Ruardean
Israel 10m Ruardean

Their daughter Rhoda Parsons 1849 married my 1st cousin 3 times removed Cornelius Brain 1848, he being the son of Simeon Brain 1819 & my GGG Aunt Ann Marfell 1824. Their son Micah Brain 1899 married Dorothy Jessie Marfell 1894.

Going back to James Parsons 1794, he was as you noted the son of Thomas Parsons 1770 & Lucy Baldwin 1771. Thomas & Lucy had 6 children including John Parsons 1797 who married Ann Herbert 1796, also George Parsons 1804 who married Margaret Herbert 1806. Ann & Margaret Herbert were not siblings. Margaret Herbert 1806 was my GGG Aunt, daughter of William Herbert 1758 and his second wife Martha Woore 1782. Ann Herbert 1796 was the daughter of John Herbert 1745 & Nancy Morgan 1745. Ann Herbert 1796 had a sister Tamar who was the second wife of Cornelius Marfell 1779. Their daughter Ann 1824 married Simeon Brain 1819 as above.

Thomas Parsons 1770 & Lucy Baldwin 1771 also had a son Ephraim 1817 who married Amelia Baldwin 1817, Amelia being the daughter of Joseph Baldwin 1780 and Sarah Smart 1786. Joseph Baldwin 1780 being the son of Thomas Baldwin 1746 & Sarah Waldin 1746. These are the parents of Lucy Baldwin 1771 who married Thomas Parsons 1770. The inevitable Marfell connection is that Thomas Baldwin 1746 & Sarah Waldin 1746 also had a son Moses 1777 who married my GGGGG Aunt Lucy Marfell 1775.

I could go on, but I think I had better stop, it just remains to thank you again Slowhands for pointing me towards the Parsons connections.

Jim Ashton

My Suspect :-

1841 Ruardean Hill ( near Corn..& Hannah MARFELL)
Jas Parsons abt 1797 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Parsons abt 1798 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Benjn Parsons abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Jas Parsons abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Parsons abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Leo Parsons abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Year: 1823
Month: Nov
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: PARSONS
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J. Herbert
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 43
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

with "oldest" ? sibling ;-

Year 1816
Month Aug
Day 25
Parents Surname PARSONS
Child Forenames Timothy
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Mary
Mothers Surname
Residence Forest of Dean
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister T. D. Fosbrooke Min[iste]r
Event Baptism
Memoranda son of
Notes
Register Reference P275 IN 1/7
Page Number 23
Parish Chapel Ruardean

and

1819 PARSONS Israel James Mary Ruardean Hill Collier Drybrook
1821 PARSONS Lydia James Mary Ruardean Hill Collier Drybrook
1823 PARSONS James James Mary Ruardean Hill Collier Drybrook
1825 PARSONS Benjamin James Mary Ruardean Hill Collier Drybrook
1828 PARSONS John James Mary Ruardean Hill Collier Drybrook
1830 PARSONS Eliza James Mary Ruardean Hill Collier Drybrook
1832 PARSONS Mary Ann James Mary Ruardean Hill Collier Drybrook
1835 PARSONS Leah James Mary Ruardean Hill Collier Drybrook

which leads me to :-

Year 1815
Month Aug
Day 5
Grooms Surname PARSONS
Grooms Forenames James
Grooms Age [not stated]
Groom Condition [not stated]
Grooms Occupation [not stated]
Grooms Residence extraparochial land adjoining this parish
Grooms Fathers Surname [not stated]
Grooms Fathers Forenames [not stated]
Grooms Fathers Occupation [not stated]
Brides Surname PARKER
Brides Forenames Mary
Brides Age [not stated]
Brides Condition [not stated]
Brides Occupation [not stated]
Brides Residence extraparochial land adjoining this parish
Brides Fathers Surname [not stated]
Brides Fathers Forenames [not stated]
Brides Fathers Occupation [not stated]
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns 1815 Jul 2 9 16
Signature or Mark Both mark
Witness 1 Mark of John Parsons
Witness 2 Mark of Hannah Walden
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister J[ohn] Seager Curate
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes Banns are in P138 IN 1/7 page 119
Register Reference P138 IN 1/8
Page Number 14
Parish Chapel English Bicknor

and then (?)

Year: 1794
Month: Apr
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: PARSONS
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Lucy
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: J H BEESTON - minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 21
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

which takes me on to

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=4462

1841 England Census Living at Ruardean Hill
Harriott Parsons abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Lucy Parsons abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Thos Parsons abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucesters

Year: 1793
Month: Nov
Day: 29
Grooms_Surname: PARSONS
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Newland
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: BALDWIN
Brides_Forenames: Lucy
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newland
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: James Waldin
Witness_2: Thos Bond
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Thos Thomas curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: NB turn over 2 leaves for next marriage page 703]
Notes: This entry not in date order. Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name.
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 705
Parish_Chapel: Newland

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Year: 1868
Month: Dec
Day: 6
Surname: WHEELER
Forenames: Maria
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 68 years
Officiating_Minister: H. T. Hoitt Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P208 IN 1/11
Page_No: 39
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook

I have followed this thread with interest and as usual have added to my information. I had Theophillia Meredith and her spouse James Parsons in my family tree as their daughter Mary baptised 20 Jun 1847 Drybrook (one of 8 children), married Timothy Yemm born 1847 at Drybrook 7 Apr 1871. They had 2 children:
Mirrium Matilda Yemm 1869 married 27 Mar 1890 Fulton Co. IL. USA to William Crone. Second marriage to James Smart 19 Apr 1893 Fulton Co.
Susanna Yemm born 22 Dec 1871 baptised 21 Jan 1872 Drybrook. She married 1 Jan 1890 Lewiston, Fulton Co. IL. USA to John Osman Blanch born 22 Sep 1869 bapt. 17 Oct 1869 Forest of Dean Bible Christian Circuit. John Osman Blanch Son of Thomas Blanch 1834 and Mary Ann Marfell 1828 - which was where my interest started.
John Osman Blanch & Susanna nee Yemm had 3 children all born Illinois.

1880 Census 11.6.1880 Cuba, Fulton County, Illinois, USA

Yemm Timothy 31 Coal Miner
Yemm Mary 31 wife
Yemm Mirrium 11 dtr
Yemm Susanna 8 dtr
Yemm Frederick 22 Cousin Coal Miner
Marfell Albert 31 Cousin Coal Miner
Stevens John 33 Boarder Coal Miner

A number of the Coal Mining families who emigrated to the Illinois Coalfields lived together, indeed at one time Timothy Yemm lived with Moses Yemm & Simeon Yemm - 3 Yemm families in one house. Simeon Yemm eventually married a Mary Ann Yemm a second wife after the death of Edith Morgan in 1883.

I would be interested to know if anyone knows the parents of James Parsons 1825 who married Theophillia Meredith, there are a number of baptisms around this time. I have a number of Parsons in my family tree and it would be good to make a connection.

Jim Ashton

Try the phonetic test, applying a Vorest accent :-)

AH-FEEL-YA

Children of John MEREDITH (Collier) & Maria

East Dean (Drybrook)

Susanna - 3 March 1833 - address Winner Cabin

Phillip - 3 March 1833 - address Winner Cabin

Jacob - 8 May 1836 - address Winner

Peter - 8 May 1836 - address Winner

...... as previously mentioned

Theophila MEREDITH - 16 July 1826 - address Cinderford

1851 Census, East Dean - WINNER COLLIERY

MEREDITH

John - 48 Coalminer, born Glos. Littledean
Maria- 48 - born Lydney
Philip, 22, Jacob 17, Peter 15, Elizabeth 12, Martha 10, Emma 7, Isabella 5, Ann - 1 (all born East Dean)

1841 Census, Gloucester County Goal

Maria MEREDITH age 36

Date of Trial : 3 March 1841

Larceny before convicted of felony - (imprisonment 12 months)

but then again, there is a John MEREDITH - age 32 - convicted on the 1 January 1839 (Larceny) and given 6 months- so these may not be the above couple! and Martha MEREDITH was christened 6 June 1841, Drybrook, parents John & Maria

probable sightings - as transcribed - but the phonetics are clear :-

Name: Afflea Meredith
Name: James Parsons
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 26
Page: 291

1851
James Parsons abt 1824 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Haffled Parsons abt 1827 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Parsons abt 1848 Rueardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Meredith abt 1836 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Visitor East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
James Pardans abt 1825 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Staffden Pardans abt 1827 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Pardans abt 1848 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Pardans abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Pardans abt 1855 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Selina Pardans abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Pardans abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
James Parsons 47
Hagela Parsons 45
May Parsons 77
Wm Parsons 19
Emma Parsons 16
Selina Parsons 13
Elizabeth Parsons 10
Eliza Parsons 7
Sidney Parsons 3
Miriam Parsons 2
John Jones 18

1881
Maria Meredith abt 1803 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Mother in Law Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Parsons abt 1824 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hafflea Parsons abt 1825 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Parsons abt 1863 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sidney Parsons abt 1867 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

1891 Ruardean Hill
Aphilia Parsons abt 1827 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Maria Meredith abt 1801 Mother East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Osmond abt 1885 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name Thomas Baldwin
Name: Heffea Parsons
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 6a
Page: 1011

Year: 1892
Month: Jan
Day: 3
Surname: MEREDITH
Forenames: Maria
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Age_at_death: 89
Officiating_Minister: G.H. Kirkham Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/13
Page_No: 60
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

Year: 1900
Month: Feb
Day: 14
Surname: BALDWIN
Forenames: Thomas
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Age_at_death: 60
Officiating_Minister: James Lawton Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/13
Page_No: 129
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

1901
Hefflea Baldwin abt 1824 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Watkin abt 1881 Bierley, Gloucestershire, England Boarder East Dean, Gloucestershire

1911
BALDWIN HIFFLEA F 1827 84 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire born Cinderford

Name: Hafflea Baldwin
Death Registration Month/Year: 1919
Age at death (estimated): 89
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 238

Year: 1919
Month: Sep
Day: 20
Surname: BALDWIN
Forenames: Hafflea
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Age_at_death: 89 years
Officiating_Minister: James Lawton Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/14
Page_No: 93
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook