Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Stephen Whetstone and Hannah cowmeadow

Stephen Whetstone and Hannah cowmeadow (reply)

roderick Wheatstone — Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:53:04 +0000

Hi Jim,
I have the will of William 1775-1853 in front of me,i will leave out all legal jargon,but give names mentioned in it.
My son william and my two daughters hannah wheatstone and mary ann bright.
My son william's daughters hannah,sarah,fanny,kezia,mary ann cowmeadow.
Hannah wheatstone's sons james cowmeadow wheatstone and john wheatstone.
Mary ann bright's son thomas bright.
He say's his daughter mary ann wheatstone?? should this mean grand-daughter or mary ann bright?? did not make sense to me.
Odd names metioned,tenants Mrs smart and john hodges.
lands joining lands of the late samuel eddy.
Mr george teague of trow green.
witnesses robert croft and edward watkins
will dated 15-01 1853.

Not sure who william the son married believed to be mary highley.
Found a possible date for stephen whetstone's marriage29 sept 1834 at Dingestow,monmouth ,I have come across hannah's name as marianna,maria cowmeadow .
I have many cowmeadow,s to mention 18 a4 sheets all related to william c1700,including some Marfells.

must go for now.
Rod

Stephen Wheatstone/Whetstone and Hannah (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:17:54 +0000

Jim

Looking at my Gloucestershire pre 1800 marriage CD's

Marriage at Whitminster - 6 October 1746

Thomas COWMEADOW married (Sarah BIRT of Longney)

Jane WHETTSON married James WALLDEN at Newnham - 2 February 1724

Joan WHETSTONE of Westbury and Joseph MINETT of Westbury married at Elmore - 6 September 1730

John WHEATSTONE - address: Precints College Gloster married Mary MILL by Lic - 27 May 1794 at Bibury

William WHEATSTONE - address: Holy Trinity Gloster, married Beata BUBB - lic -26 AUGUST 1799 - at Barnwood

Stephen Wheatstone/Whetstone and Hannah (reply)

Carole Lewis — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:59:48 +0000

Hello there,
The James Cowmeadow who married to Mary Tingle was the son of James Cowmeadow who was the husband of Ann Evans. I believe that he had a brother William. I have copies of both Jameses' wills. The older James left all property between James junior and William with good provision for his wife Ann.

I am not sure how this fits in.

Carole

Stephen Wheatstone/Whetstone and Hannah (reply)

jimashton — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 12:44:55 +0000

Thanks Rod

I already had a William Cowmeadow as married to Elizabeth - the father of James Cowmeadow 1737 who married Ann Evans 18 Mar 1762. I believe he is a sibling to Ann, Hannah, Hester & William 1735. I followed your information but wonder if you have inadvertantly missed a generation in the version you have shown:

william 1735 married sarah roberts married on21 may 1755 their son william born 1775 died 1853 was father of hannah who married stephen whetstone

I found a baptism for a William Cowmeadow in 1775 and this William is the son of William Cowmeadow and Hannah :

Year: 1775
Month: Aug
Day: 13
Parents_Surname: COWMEADOW
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: John COPNER
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 36
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: C530

Jim Ashton

Stephen Wheatstone/Whetstone and Hannah (reply)

roderick Wheatstone — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:31:04 +0000

Hi Jim,
I have william c1700 married elizabeth pen c1703,their son william 1735 married sarah roberts married on21 may 1755 their son william born 1775 died 1853 was father of hannah who married stephen whetstone.
william 1735 was brother of james 1737 to 1807 who married ann evans1737 to 1829
They also had a william 1778 to 1855 who married mary hatton on 29-09-1804.Also they had a son james 1768 to 1821 who married mary tingle on 24-03-1807.
I also have their daughter ann married to thomas meredith,she also had a william brother born 1807 died 1807,hence the brother william 1820 of tasmanian notoriety.

Hope this makes sense to you and be of help

regards rod wheatstone.

Stephen Wheatstone/Whetstone and Hannah (reply)

jimashton — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 12:39:33 +0000

Hi Roderick

Thanks for the info. I have now changed my family tree to show Ann Cowmeadow, daughter of James Cowmeadow & Mary Tingle as being the spouse of Thomas Meredith. Luckily my family tree software makes moving entire families and all their dependants a fairly easy operation

Although I have 140 Cowmeadows in my family tree including 10 William's, the William Cowmeadow 1775 you show as being the father of Hannah who married Stephen Whetstone is unknown to me.

The Thomas Meredith I showed previously as being the spouse of Elizabeth Trigg stands, you will note from my posting that this Thomas Meredith was the son of John Meredith & Elizabeth Oakey. The Thomas Meredith who married Ann Cowmeadow was the son of Thomas Meredith.

Although all those mentioned above are not directly related to me it is very important to get things right. My connection with Stephen Whetstone is via daughter Esther 1846 who married 4th cousin 3 times removed Moses Brain 1845, also via Stephen Whetstone's son John Stephen as his daughter Anne Whetsone married 2nd cousin 3 times removed Alan Martin Treherne 1871. I have 254 Treherne's in my family tree, my mother was a Treherne, her mother being a Marfell.

Jim Ashton

Stephen Wheatstone/Whetstone and Hannah (reply)

roderick Wheatstone — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 16:12:36 +0000

Hi Carol,

Could be, but not sure,all i know is that this william is great grandson of William Cowmeadow c1700 and Elizabeth Pen c1703.

They had daughters,Anne c1730,Hannah c1732,hester c1733,and a son William c1735.

If i find a link i will let you know.

Rod

Stephen Wheatstone/Whetstone and Hannah (reply)

Carole Lewis — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:07:06 +0000

Could this William Cowmeadow be the brother of the James Cowmeadow who married Mary Tingle or are they separate strands? They all appear to be living in Tibbs Green/Ruardean. James was the son of James Cowmeadow and Ann Evans.

Carole

Stephen Wheatstone/Whetstone and Hannah (reply)

donna howells — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 13:49:46 +0000

Many many thanks for this information. I have been trying to resolve this mystery in my family tree for a number of months. I can now move forward with this branch with renewed gusto!!

For your information Stephen is my 4th great grandfather.

Regards
Donna

Stephen Wheatstone/Whetstone and Hannah (reply)

roderick Wheatstone — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 12:17:24 +0000

Stephen whetstone/and hannah.
Stephen is my g,g,grandfather,Hannah was a Cowmeadow.Her father was William Cowmeadow born 1775 died 1853,he married Pleasent Jordan 29 july 1798,she died 1803.
He then remarried Hannah Harris in 1805,she was born in 1784 died sept 1862.
Look for will of William Cowmeadow 1853 of Tibbs Green-Ruadean.I also have found that Hannah of Barzilla Meek marriage, name changes Dianna(Hannah).Thats all i have at this moment in time.

Ann MEREDITH nee COWMEADOW 1812 ish Moorwood (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:01:37 +0000

Jim

"we" may need to re-visit the Ann Cowmeadow / Stephen Whetstone union!

Is this the Rock, Moorwood/ Lydbrook Ann ?
Year: 1813
Month: Aug
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: COWMEADOW
Child_Forenames: Ann
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest of Dean
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: T. D. Fosbrooke Assist[ant] Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: daughter of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 3
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

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Year: 1841
Month: Dec
Day: 30
Grooms_Surname: MEREDITH
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: 30
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Walford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Meredith
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: COWMEADOW
Brides_Forenames: Ann
Brides_Age: 29
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Walford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Cowmeadow
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: borh mark
Witness_1: William Webb
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Meredith
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: N.F. Rawes Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/11
Page_Number: 36
Parish_Chapel: Walford

1851
Thomas Merridnett abt 1804 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Merridnett abt 1814 Rock Moorwood, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
Thomas Meredith abt 1810 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Meredith abt 1814 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
Thomas Meredith 61
Ann Meredith 57

1881
Thomas Meredith abt 1810 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Meredith abt 1812 Moorhood Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1884
Month: Nov
Day: 6
Surname: MEREDITH
Forenames: Thomas
Residence: Westbury Union Workhouse
Age_at_death: 75 years
Officiating_Minister: H. T. Hoitt Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P208 IN 1/11
Page_No: 97
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook

Stephen WHETSTONE 1811 Lydbrook - prior thread (reply)

jimashton — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:02:53 +0000

Carole

"A" Thomas Meredith baptised 23 Jan 1820 Little Dean son of John Meredith and Elizabeth Oakey married Elizabeth Trigg baptised 31 Jan 1819 daughter of Benjamin Trigg and Mary Marfell in 1840 :

1851 Census East Dean
TRIGG Benjamin Widow/er 63 Lime Burner Dean Forest
MEREDITH Elizabeth 31 Wife of Coal Miner below Dean Forest
TRIGG Absolom 23 Coal Miner Dean Forest
Thomas 13 Scholar Dean Forest
MEREDITH Thomas Son in Law 30 Coal Miner Married Little Dean
Mary 9 Scholar Little Dean
Martha 6 East Dean
Samuel 4 Little Dean
Lucy 1 East Dean
EDWARDS Timothy Lodger 27 Hallier coal Forest of Dean

1861 Census East Dean
Thomas Meredith 40 CM Little Dean
Elizabeth 41 East Dean
Samuel 13 East Dean

Ann Cowmeadow baptised 8 Aug 1813 daughter of James Cowmeadow and Mary Tingle I have as married to Stephen Whetstone. Their first child was born 1836 before registration started. Census data on thread.

Jim Ashton

Stephen WHETSTONE 1811 Lydbrook - prior thread (reply)

Carole Lewis — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:17:27 +0000

I thought that Ann, the sister of the Hannah Cowmeadow who married Barzillai Meek, married Thomas Meredith in 1841.

Carole Lewis

Stephen WHETSTONE 1811 Lydbrook - prior thread (reply)

donna howells — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:21:13 +0000

Many thanks for the information. Could be a possibility but without marriage records proving to be difficult to confirm one way or another. I will try and confirm their children and perhaps order one of the childrens birth certificate. This will at least confirm her actual name.

Many thanks once again.

Stephen WHETSTONE 1811 Lydbrook - prior thread (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:45:40 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=15976

sisters Hannah and Ann(a) Cowmeadow

Stephen probably "marries" Ann(a) pre 1837 and Brazillai marries Hannah in 1842

Year: 1811
Month: Dec
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: WHETSTONE
Child_Forenames: Stephen
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P138 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 30
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

Year: 1813
Month: Aug
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: COWMEADOW
Child_Forenames: Ann
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest of Dean
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: T. D. Fosbrooke Assist[ant] Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: daughter of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 3
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

Meek / Cowmeadow thread

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=2713

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=1644#p1660

Stephen Wheatstone/Whetstone and Hannah

donna howells — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:01:40 +0000

Looking for any information regarding Hannah who married Stephen Whetstone/Wheatstone. Hannah possibly Cowmeadow, as their son was baptised James Cowmeadow Whetstone. Believe Stephen came from the Moorwood/Vention Lane area of Lydbrook. Eventually becoming landlord of The Royal Spring. My original investigation led to her parents as James Cowmeadow and Mary Tingle, but I have been informed their Hannah married Barzillai Meek.

Many thanks