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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again !!</p>
<p>Yes James Marfell born 1819 married Esther James born 1812 on 15 Apr 1846 at Weston under Penyard. Unusually (for a Marfell) I didn't have the 1841 Census entry.  Esther's father is shown on the marriage certificate as Joseph James Labourer. </p>
<p>Following James Marfell's marriage, I do have the 1851, 1861, 1871,1881 Census Llangarren 1891 Census Trewin Villa &amp; 1901 Census Ross. He died 26 Sep 1904.</p>
<p>James Marfell was the brother of Thomas Marfell who married Rebecca Wilce as shown in my (amended) previous posting.</p>
<p>Jim Ashton</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1841 Census, Herefordshire, Weston Under Penyard<br />
Marsh Farm</p>
<p><strong>James MARFELL - age 20 Farmer<br />
Joseph TURNER - 60<br />
</strong><br />
and three servants</p>
<p>Esther JAMES - 25 <br />
Charls WORKMAN - 15<br />
Stephen ROBERTS - 14</p>
<p>probably on this link somewhere.....</p>
<p>1851 census, Weston Under Penyard</p>
<p>Marsh Farm</p>
<p>James MARFELL - age 32, born Hope Mansell<br />
Esther MARFELL - 39 born Weston<br />
George 3 and William 2</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that. I guess - but will not be recording that Joseph is the father of James Turner &amp; Edward is Charlotte's brother.</p>
<p>However, going back over my records I noted that I hadn't got the detail of Jonathon Marfell's mother Rebecca Wilce 1813 who married Thomas Marfell born 4 Dec 1815 on 12 July 1836 Abenhall - Witneses Miles Wilce &amp; Abia Marfell.  I discovered that Rebecca Wilce was baptised 30 Nov 1813 and is in fact the daughter of John Wilce 1765 and Ann Marfell 1771, who of course I had in my family tree. A clue should have been that Rebecca Wilce had a brother Miles 1852 who was a witness.</p>
<p>Jim Ashton</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1851 Census, Herefordshire, Peterstow, District 10 - Page 12 of 17</p>
<p>very badly written.....</p>
<p>Little Stetstone?</p>
<p>Charlotte TURNER - Widow, age 39, Farmer of 114 acres employing 14 labourers, born Rofs<br />
Sophia TURNER - daughtger age 11 - born Peterstow<br />
Henery  TURNER - son - age 4<br />
Joseph TURNER - Yoeman - age 68, born Linton<br />
Edward TURNER - age 48 - Farm Servant, born - Dellmons? Herefordshire<br />
John WILLIAMS - age 16 - Servant</p>
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<title>Mary Ann  COWMEADOW 1837 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slowhands</p>
<p>I thought I had better add the Marfell element here in connection with the 1851 Census entry for Charlotte Turner.</p>
<p>The Sophia Anne Turner born 1840 mentioned married Jonathon Marfell born 28 Mar 1843 on 15 March 1865 Parish Ch. Hentland, Herefordshire.  I have the marriage certificate and her father is shown as James Turner Farmer. Witnesses Henry J Turner &amp; Charlotte Elizabeth Turner, presumably her brother and mother.</p>
<p>I appear to have missed some detail on the 1851 Census entry as I have :</p>
<p>1851 Census Hfd. Peterstow 1976 115a <br />
Charlotte Turner widow 39 Hereford<br />
Sophia 11 Peterstowe<br />
Henery  4 Peterstowe.</p>
<p>I have taken more trouble to record the entries after her marriage to Jonathon Marfell :</p>
<p>1871 Census The Mill House, Walford<br />
Jonathon Marfell 28 Farmer 143 acres 4 men 2 boys. Newent<br />
S.A. wife 30 Peterstow<br />
Thomas H 5 Ross<br />
Wm. E. 3 Ross<br />
Robert J. 1 Ross</p>
<p>1881 Census <br />
 Source: FHL Film 1341624     PRO Ref RG11    Piece 2588    Folio 36    Page 5<br />
 Marr Age Sex Birthplace<br />
Johnathan MARFELL M 38  M Newent, Gloucester, England<br />
 Rel: Head<br />
 Occ: Farmer Of 202 Acres Employ 5 Labourers<br />
Sophia A. MARFELL M 40  F Peterstow, Hereford, England<br />
 Rel: Wife<br />
 Occ: Farmers Wife<br />
Robert J. MARFELL   11  M Walford, Hereford, England<br />
 Rel: Son<br />
 Occ: Farmers Son<br />
Frederick J. MARFELL   9  M Walford, Hereford, England<br />
 Rel: Son<br />
 Occ: Scholar<br />
Elizabeth H. MARFELL   7  F Weston, Hereford, England<br />
 Rel: Daur<br />
 Occ: Scholar<br />
Alice M. MARFELL   5  F Peterstow, Hereford, England<br />
 Rel: Daur<br />
 Occ: Scholar<br />
Herbert T. MARFELL   3  M Much Birch, Hereford, England<br />
 Rel: Son<br />
Lydia L. MARFELL   1  F Much Birch, Hereford, England<br />
 Rel: Daur<br />
Ann WILLIAMS U 20  F Llangattoch, Monmouth, England<br />
 Rel: Serv<br />
 Occ: Governess<br />
Mary ROWLEY U 19  F Canon Pyon, Hereford, England<br />
 Rel: Serv<br />
 Occ: General Servant Domestic</p>
<p>1891 Census Bishops Cleeve <br />
Jonathon 48 Baker Newent<br />
Sophia A 50 Peterstowe<br />
Alice M 15 Peterstowe<br />
Herbert T 12 Much Birch<br />
Lydia L 11 Much Birch<br />
Henry Bowden, Border 26 Torquay</p>
<p>1901 St Lythans Glamorganshire <br />
Jonathon 58 Gloucester Newent Estate Bailiff<br />
Sophia 60 Hereford  Peterstowe<br />
Herbert 23 Much Birch Clerk<br />
Lydia 21 Much Birch </p>
<p>Jonathon &amp; Sophia both died in Romford - 1918 &amp; 1922. A number of their children emigrated to Quebec, but moved on some to USA and one to New Zealand. Some remained as their deaths are recorded in Sussex.</p>
<p>Jim Ashton</p>
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<title>Mary Ann  COWMEADOW 1837 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Year: 1837 <br />
Month: Oct <br />
Day: 15 <br />
Parents_Surname: COWMEADOW <br />
Child_Forenames: Mary Ann <br />
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated] <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Moorwood <br />
Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Officiating_Minister: T. D. Fosbroke Vicar <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: daug[the]r of <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/7 <br />
Page_Number: 100 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean </p>
<p><br />
1841<br />
Barzillas Meek abt 1793 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Elizabeth Meek abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Maria Meek abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Charlotte Meek abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Hannah Cowmeadow abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Mary Ann Cowmeadow abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire</p>
<p><br />
not too far away</p>
<p>1841<br />
Joseph Turner abt 1781 Herefordshire, England Weston Under Penyard, Herefordshire Farmer</p>
<p><br />
Farmer / Butcher were often the same in this period -so maybe ?</p>
<p><br />
1851<br />
Charlotte Turner  abt 1819 Ross, Herefordshire, England Head Peterstow, Herefordshire  <br />
 Sophia Turner  abt 1840 Peterstow, Herefordshire, England Daughter Peterstow, Herefordshire  <br />
 Henery Turner  abt 1847 Peterstow, Herefordshire, England Son Peterstow, Herefordshire  <br />
 Joseph Turner  abt 1783 Linton, Herefordshire, England Ferman Peterstow, Herefordshire  Yeoman<br />
 Edward Turner  abt 1803 Dellmons, Herefordshire, England Labarson Peterstow, Herefordshire</p>
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<title>Diana MEEK (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your reponse. It is interesting that Diana is a witness at the marriage of Mary Ann Cowmeadow. She was the daughter,of course, of Hannah Meek (nee Cowmeadow). In this record the father's name is clearly given as Joseph Turner,butcher. I can find no references to him in this website's records. Could he have been Hannah's employer? Sorry to go off the point.<br />
Carole</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOD records</p>
<p>Marriage Walford - 17 October 1852</p>
<p>George WEAVER - age 21, Bachelor <br />
Grooms Residence : Warrifield, Walford<br />
Father: Thomas WEAVER</p>
<p>married</p>
<p>Maria MEEK - age 23, Spinster<br />
Brides Residence: Warrifield, Walford</p>
<p>father: Barsillai MEEK, Labourer</p>
<p>Witness 1 : William WEAVER<br />
Witness 2: DIANA MEEK</p>
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<title>Diana(h) MEEK in 1850 - 1860 period (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so far the only entry I can find to help narrow the research is :-</p>
<p><br />
 Year 1858 <br />
Month Nov <br />
Day 14 <br />
Grooms Surname WELCH <br />
Grooms Forenames Joseph <br />
Grooms Age 20 <br />
Groom Condition Bachelor <br />
Grooms Occupation Collier <br />
Grooms Residence Drybrook <br />
Grooms Fathers Surname Welch <br />
Grooms Fathers Forenames John <br />
Grooms Fathers Occupation Shoemaker <br />
Brides Surname COWMEADOW <br />
Brides Forenames Mary <br />
Brides Age 21 <br />
Brides Condition Spinster <br />
Brides Occupation  <br />
Brides Residence Lea Bailey <br />
Brides Fathers Surname Turner <br />
Brides Fathers Forenames Joseph <br />
Brides Fathers Occupation Butcher <br />
Licence or Banns Banns <br />
Date of Banns  <br />
Signature or Mark Both Mark <br />
Witness 1 Ba[gillin] Meek <br />
Witness 2 Diana Meek <br />
Other Witnesses  <br />
Officiating Minister Henry G. Nicholls <br />
Event Marriage <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P109 IN 1/6 <br />
Page Number 113 <br />
Parish Chapel Drybrook </p>
<p> and this death in Gloucester<br />
 <br />
Name: Dianah Meek <br />
Year of Registration: 1862 <br />
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec <br />
District: Gloucester (1837-1937) <br />
County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 171</p>
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<title>Barzillai MEEK 1792- 1863 ; Marriages (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know Diana Meek's relationship to Barzillai Meek. Have I missed a link somewhere?<br />
Carole</p>
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<title>Barzillai MEEK 1792- 1863 ; Marriages (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is an error in the 1851 recording - and Ancestry's transcription<br />
or Hannah / Diannah are been used at random !</p>
<p>Year: 1842 <br />
Month: Sep <br />
Day: 4 <br />
Grooms_Surname: MEEK <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Barzillai <br />
Grooms_Age: Of Full Age <br />
Groom_Condition: Widower <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer <br />
Grooms_Residence: The Forest of Dean <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated] <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated] <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Surname: COWMEADOW <br />
Brides_Forenames: Hannah <br />
Brides_Age: Of Full Age <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: The Forest of Dean <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark <br />
Witness_1: James Pope <br />
Witness_2: Mark of Hannah Pope <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: Henry Formby <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/10 <br />
Page_Number: 20 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean </p>
<p>1851<br />
Barzilla Mick abt 1793 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Diannah Mick  abt 1821 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Maria Mick  abt 1829 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Mary Ann Cowmeadon  abt 1837 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Aop Daur Migshwate East Dean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p>1861<br />
Brazella Meek  abt 1794 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Hannah Meek  abt 1816 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire</p>
<p>Year: 1863 <br />
Month: Apr <br />
Day: 30 <br />
Surname: MEEK <br />
Forenames: Barzillai <br />
Residence: Drybrook <br />
Age_at_death: 71 years <br />
Officiating_Minister: H.G Nicholls <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_No: 177 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOD records, not sure if this info is on the link.... have a burial at <strong>Ruardean</strong> of Dianah MEEK - 19 October 1862</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>England &amp; Wales, National Probate Calendar</p>
<p>1863</p>
<p>25 July</p>
<p>Brazilla MEEK</p>
<p>The Will of Barzilla MEEK formerly of Lea Bailey Hill, but late of Drybrook both in the Township of East Dean in the County of Gloucester, Labourer deceased who died 26 April 1863 at Drybrook aforesaid was proved at Gloucester by the oaths of Abraham STERREY of Drybrook aforesaid Haullier one of the Executors.  Effects under £5</p>
<p>previous thread - re STERR(E)Y - MEEK</p>
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<p><br />
Brazilla - was buried at <strong>Drybrook</strong></p>
<p>England &amp; Wales, National Probate Calendar</p>
<p>Abraham STERRY</p>
<p>16 February 1881</p>
<p>The Will of Abraham STERRY late of Hazeley Hill near Drybrook in the County of Gloucester, Yeoman, who died 21 November 1880 at Hazeley Hill was proved at the Principal Registry by George STERRY of the Lea Bailey Hill near Micheldean in the said County, Gentleman the Brother the sole Executor.</p>
<p>Personal Estate under £100</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In answer to -&gt; <a href="http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=1644#p27510">http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=1644#p27510</a> </p>
<p>To put the record straight the the parents of James Cowmeadow who married Mary Tingle were James and Ann (nee Evans). His parents were William and Elizabeth.</p>
<p>The 1857 census must be in error. Diana Meek appears as a witness on Cowmeadow marriage certificates so she must be a different individual although I can't trace her. Perhaps Hannah changed her name!</p>
<p>Carole</p>
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