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<title>Parish Mill Longhope, &amp; other watermills of Eastern FoD. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to post to this old thread when it was still active, apologies for being so remiss. <br />
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<p>Anyone researching the history of the many old mills of the eastern Forest should read this excellent article produced by the Gloucestershire Society for Industrial Archaeology. It shows that since medieval times there have been scores of water-powered mills and furnaces built to harness the power of streams feeding the Severn at Westbury, including Longhope Brook and it's tributaries.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gsia.org.uk/reprints/1974/gi197408.pdf">http://www.gsia.org.uk/reprints/1974/gi197408.pdf</a></p>
<p>The map at the head of the article shows the old Longhope Parish Mill as number 10, located just where Slowhands described; later in the article the history of each numbered site is described in detail.  Comparing this map and early Ordnance Survey maps against modern satellite imagery is an interesting exercise !  </p>
<p>Google Earth images clearly show the old mill pond at nearby Harts Barn (Grist mills 8 and 9 on GSIA map), but the ponds at the Parish Mill have long been filled-in. However the line of trees between these sites shows the eastward course of the old mill-race streams which fed-them before joining the main Longhope Brook on it's southward route past Blaisdon to Westbury.</p>
<p>The Grist and Parish Mill are on this 1878 O.S. Map,  lower R/H corner.<br />
<a href="http://maps.nls.uk/view/101453097">http://maps.nls.uk/view/101453097</a></p>
<p>The adjacent map shows the route of Longhope Brook thro' the village, past Furnace Mill etc.<br />
<a href="http://maps.nls.uk/view/101453124">http://maps.nls.uk/view/101453124</a></p>
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<a href="http://www.gsia.org.uk/">http://www.gsia.org.uk/</a></p>
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<title>John GROSVENOR's parent - JAMES (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baptisms at Gloucester St Mary De Crypt</p>
<p>James GROSVENOR - 18 January 1820 - parents: John (labourer) &amp; Susannah<br />
address: Gloucester - Sudbrook</p>
<p><br />
Mary Ann GROSVENOR - 8 January 1818 - parents : as above<br />
address: St Owen</p>
<p><br />
Marriage at Gloucester St Nicholas - 25  August 1816</p>
<p>John GROSVENOR to Susanna BAICKNELL</p>
<p><br />
?  Death:</p>
<p>Susannah GROSVENOR age 84 c1791 </p>
<p>J/F/M Qtr 1875</p>
<p>Clifton - Bristol</p>
<p><br />
Susan GROSVENOR age 78 - is living with her Son William age 40 and his family on the 1871 census, St Philip and St Jacob, Clifton (born Worcester, Worcestershire)</p>
<p>1861 Census, Bristol St Philip &amp; St Jacob<br />
Gloster Road</p>
<p>GROVENOR - (sometimes on the census without the S)</p>
<p>William - 30 - Comb Maker, born Bristol St Philip &amp; St Jacob<br />
Esther - 27 - born ditto<br />
James John - 7 - born Sheffield<br />
Mary Ann - 3 - born Bristol St Philip &amp; St Jacob<br />
Harry - 1<br />
Susan - mother - 57, Scripture ....des?  born Worcester</p>
<p>1851 Census, Bristol St Philip &amp; St Jacob</p>
<p>Susan GROSVENOR - Widow - age 58, Laundress, born Worcester<br />
Eliza GROSVENOR - unmarried daughter - age 19, Dressmaker, born Bristol</p>
<p><br />
1841 Census, St Philip &amp; St Jacob, Laurence Hill</p>
<p>GROVENOR</p>
<p>John - 50 - Lab. born in County<br />
Susannah - 50 - not born in County<br />
William - 11 - born in County<br />
Eliza - 9 - born in County<br />
Joseph - 5 - born in County</p>
<p><em>I've sent an email via Ancestry Public Members Tree  (Natasha) - who haven't got this above information </em> and re your request</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1841 ????<br />
Issac Grovenor abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Margarett Grovenor abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire </p>
<p><br />
Name: Peggy Parkyn<br />
Name: James Grovenner <br />
Year of Registration: 1839 <br />
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep <br />
District: Bristol <br />
County: Avon, Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 11 <br />
Page: 158</p>
<p><br />
&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt; has a degree of &quot;empathy&quot; with</p>
<p>Year: 1877 <br />
Month: Jul <br />
Day: 22 <br />
Parents_Surname: GROVENOR <br />
Child_Forenames: Margaret Martha <br />
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated] <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Ellen Parkyn <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Soudley <br />
Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Officiating_Minister: Elias Edw[ar]d Tayett <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: (Aged 5) <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/2 <br />
Page_Number: 161 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John</p>
<p><br />
and</p>
<p>Year: 1906 <br />
Month: Sep <br />
Day: 18 <br />
Surname: GROSVENOR <br />
Forenames: James <br />
Residence: Stone Cottage Bondley Near Newham <br />
Age_at_death: 87 <br />
Officiating_Minister: George Barr <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P206 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_No: 75 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Longhope </p>
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1901<br />
Ellen Jefferies  abt 1849 Bristol Head East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 James Grosvenor  abt 1819 Gloucestershire, England Father East Dean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p>Name: Peggy Grosvenor <br />
Estimated birth year: abt 1815 <br />
Year of Registration: 1893 <br />
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar <br />
Age at Death: 78 <br />
District: Westbury On Severn <br />
County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 177 </p>
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Year: 1893 <br />
Month: Mar <br />
Day: 25 <br />
Surname: GROSVENOR <br />
Forenames: Peggy <br />
Residence: Longhope <br />
Age_at_death: 78 <br />
Officiating_Minister: EB Shekell Curate <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P206 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_No: 55 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Longhope </p>
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1891<br />
James Grosvenor  abt 1820 St Mary, Gloucestershire, England Head Longhope, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Margaret Grosvenor  abt 1814 Liskeard, Cornwall, England Wife Longhope, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Annie G Grosvenor  abt 1857 Beomrberron, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Longhope, Gloucestershire</p>
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<title>Parish Mill Longhope - for sale (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Old Parish Mill for Sale</strong><br />
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<p><em>Old Parish Mill comprises a delightful and historic 4 Bedroom country residence dating back to c. 1649. Well appointed throughout, together with a luxurious detached 2 Bedroom holiday cottage, beautiful gardens and grounds, garaging, stabling and further pasture land, extending in all to approximately 5. 5 acres (to be verified). Old Parish Mill is situated approx 3/4 mile from the centre of . . . <br />
Old Parish Mill comprises a delightful and historic 4 Bedroom country residence dating back to c. 1649. Well appointed throughout, together with a luxurious detached 2 Bedroom holiday cottage, beautiful gardens and grounds, garaging, stabling and further pasture land, extending in all to approximately 5. 5 acres (to be verified). </em></p>
<p><em>Old Parish Mill is situated approx 3/4 mile from the centre of Longhope, which provides a comprehensive range of local amenities. The property is convenient for a whole number of local and regional centres, including Monmouth (13 miles), Gloucester (12 miles), Ross - on - Wye (7 miles), Hereford (17 miles) and Cheltenham (16 miles). Easy access is gained to the A40/M50 giving excellent road links to the Midlands, South Wales and the West.</em></p>
<p><em> </em></p>
<p><em> Outside: The property is approached via a gravelled driveway that sweeps around to an extensive car parking and turning area. Alongside both the main house and the cottage, the gardens to the property do form a very special feature, being extensively lawned and interspersed with mature trees and shrubs including pampas, eucalyptus and oak. To the far side is a bridge across the Hope Brook, leading to an additional garden area with Summer House and timber climbing frame. There is also a pleasant Orchard with pastureland beyond. Vegetable area. Stone faced Double Garage 23'5&quot; x 14'10&quot; (7. 14m x 4. 52m) with under - roof storage, personal access, up and over door, concreted floor. Additional level lawned area with tree lined surround and range of Stables 24'10&quot; x 11'9&quot; (7. 57m x 3. 58m) overall comprising two stables with kick panelling and hayrack, power, lighting and water, plus tack room. Additional level lawned area from there the driveway continues over a further bridge to the Pastureland which is situated largely at the rear of the property and we are informed that the property extends to approximately 5. 5 acres (to be verified). StreamGardenGarden. Garden. . Garden. . . GaragePasturelandStablesMain </em></p>
<p><em>HouseDirections: From Ross - on - Wye proceed north on the main A40 towards Gloucester. Continue for approx 5. 7 miles and upon reaching Longhope itself, turn right towards the village centre. Continue through the village and then upon reaching the old Monmouth road turn right. After a short distance the old Monmouth road leads to a T - junction with the A4136. At this point turn right towards Monmouth and continue for exactly 0. 3 miles where the entrance to the property can be found on the right hand side. Property Features 8 bedroomsDetached houseGarage for 1 car5 - 10 acres garden</em></p>
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<title>Parish Mill aka Longhope Corn Mill, Brimps Hill (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Longhope Mill ( corn) :-</p>
<p>between Harts Barn and Brook Farm<br />
<a href="http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&amp;gazName=g&amp;gazString=SO675185">http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&amp;gazName=g&amp;...</a></p>
<p>Parish Mill,<br />
 Monmouth Rd,<br />
 Longhope, <br />
Gloucestershire<br />
 GL17 0QD</p>
<p><em>Old Parish Mill was built in 1649 and at that time there was already an existing building, believed to date from 1580,this was consequently used as the family living quarters by the miller.</em></p>
<p><em>The mill was one of the most important watermills in Gloucestershire in producing flour and continued to do so until the end of 1946. Henceforth it tragically became derelict.</em></p>
<p><em>Lord and Lady Hollingrove have rescued the 'sleeping beauty' and have painstakingly, transformed it into what it is today,a luxurious and comfortable family estate,oozing character and history. </em></p>
<p><em>Many historical pilgrims visit this important site and enjoy a glimpse into the history of the mill by viewing the mill wheel and internal workings, thankfully still intact today, nurtured to life again by Lord Andrew, a renowned historian.</em></p>
<p><em>Lord Andrew is happy to recount the legend of Prince Rupert of the Rhine,who was aided and abetted by supporters concealing him at the mill after the battle of Worcester. To enable him to escape repercussions after the battle, by Oliver Cromwell's troops.</em></p>
<p><em>It is also believed that the Duke of Monmouth commandeered flour from the mill,for his soldiers during the conflict with James II.</em></p>
<p><em>Old Parish Mill has allegedly taken part in many historical events over the centuries and it is a privilege to be able to visit this magical site,nurtured for future generations and imagine the famous footprints of history gone before</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.englishhomestays.co.uk/history.php">http://www.englishhomestays.co.uk/history.php</a></p>
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<title>John Richard GROSVENER 1847 -1917 Bristol -&gt; East Dean (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name: John R Grosvener <br />
Death Registration Month/Year: 1917 <br />
Age at death (estimated): 70 <br />
Registration district: Westbury On Severn <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 218 </p>
<p>Year: 1917 <br />
Month: Sep <br />
Day: 22 <br />
Surname: GROSVENOR <br />
Forenames: John Richard <br />
Residence: Pound House Longhope <br />
Age_at_death: 70 <br />
Officiating_Minister: Maurice Maltby Rector <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P206 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_No: 88 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Longhope</p>
<p> photo of Pound House :-<br />
<a href="http://www.longhopevillage.co.uk/history/houses.asp">http://www.longhopevillage.co.uk/history/houses.asp</a></p>
<p>1911<br />
GROSVENOR JOHN RICHARD M 1848 63 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire <br />
 GROSVENOR MARY F 1850 61 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire <br />
GROSVENOR ALBERT M 1894 17 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire   <br />
 GROSVENOR GEORGE M 1884 27 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire   <br />
 GROSVENOR GLADYS F 1890 21 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire   <br />
GROSVENOR HARRY M 1892 19 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire   <br />
 GROSVENOR MARJORIE LILIAN F 1901 10 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire   </p>
<p><br />
<span style="color:#3c0;">&lt; back to earlier note&gt;</span></p>
<p>Year: 1871 <br />
Month: Aug <br />
Day: 28 <br />
Grooms_Surname: GROVENER <br />
Grooms_Forenames: John Richard <br />
Grooms_Age: 23 <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Wood-Turner <br />
Grooms_Residence: East Dean <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Grovener <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Wood Turner <br />
Brides_Surname: TAYLOR <br />
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann <br />
Brides_Age: 21 <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Residence: East Dean <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Taylor <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Miner <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign <br />
Witness_1: Alfred Taylor <br />
Witness_2: Ellen Parkyn Grovener <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: Geo[rge] Al[exander] Allan Curate <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/5 <br />
Page_Number: 63 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John </p>
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1871 Sewdley<br />
James Grovenor 52 Wood Turner<br />
Margaret Grovenor 56 <br />
John Grovenor 24 <br />
Elizabeth Grovenor 28 <br />
Hellen Grovenor 26 <br />
Joseph Grovenor 19 <br />
James Grovenor 15 <br />
Emily Grovenor 4 <br />
Rose Grovenor 1 <br />
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<p>1861 Saw Mills<br />
James Grovenod abt 1820 Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire  Wood Turner<br />
 Margret Grovenod  abt 1815 Cornwall, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Elizabeth Grovenod abt 1842 Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Ellen Grovenod abt 1845 Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 John Grovenod abt 1847 Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Joseph Grovenod abt 1852 Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 James Grovenod  abt 1856 Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p><br />
Name: John Richard Grovener <br />
Year of Registration: 1847 <br />
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar <br />
District: Clifton <br />
County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 11 <br />
Page: 314</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>John R GROSVENOR - father James - of Longhope</em></p>
<p>Not complete..... but it's late!!!!</p>
<p><br />
1901 Census, Gloucestershire, Longhope, District 7</p>
<p>'All that part of the Parish which lies on the west side of the Great Western Railway and also all that part of the parish which comprises the houses lying on the west side of the Velshouse ? Lane  the village of Longhope, Fetchen ? Marshes Farm, Parish  Mill Chestgrove, Bilburh?Farm, Bradley Grove Upper End, the cottages near to Blenheim House, Furnace Mill and all the houses within the above boundaries'</p>
<p>Parish Mill House</p>
<p>GROSVENOR</p>
<p>John - 53 - Woodturner - born, Gloucester, Bristol<br />
Mary - 50 - born Newham<br />
Leslie - 19 - all born Longhope<br />
George - 17<br />
Millie - 13<br />
Gladys - 11<br />
Harry - 9<br />
Albert - 7</p>
<p><br />
1891 Census. Glos. Longhope<br />
Village Yew Tree Cottage</p>
<p>GROSVENOR</p>
<p>John R - 43 - (c1848) Wood Turner - born Bristol<br />
Mary - 40 - born Bewdley Eath?<br />
Martha - 14<br />
Herbert E - 12<br />
Leslie - 9<br />
George - 7<br />
Alice - 5<br />
Milie - 3<br />
Gladys - 1</p>
<p><br />
1881 Census, Glos. Longhope</p>
<p>Yew Tree Cottage</p>
<p>GROSVENOR</p>
<p>John R - 33 - Wood Turner, born Glos. Bristol<br />
Mary A - 30 - born Glos. Sudeley<br />
James W - 9 - born Sudeley<br />
Blanche K - 6 - born Longhope<br />
Martha - 4 - born Longhope<br />
Herbert E - 2 - born Longhope</p>
<p><br />
1881 Census, Westbury on Severn <br />
Soudley</p>
<p>GROSVENOR - James Snr.</p>
<p>James - 62 - Wood Turner, born Gloucester<br />
Margaret -  68 - born Liskard, Cornwall<br />
Joseph - unmarried Son, 28 - Iron Miner, born Bristol<br />
James - unmarried Son, 25 - Coal Miner, born East Dean<br />
Margaret GROSVENOR, Granddaughter - age 9, born East Dean</p>
<p><br />
1851 Census, Gloucs. Bristol St Philip &amp; St Jacob</p>
<p>GROSVENOR</p>
<p>James - 30 - Brush Turner. Glos<br />
Margaret - 35 - born Cornwall, Liskerd<br />
Elizabeth - 9 - Nursemaid - born Bristol<br />
Ellen - 6 - born Bristol<br />
John - 4 - born Bristol<br />
Thomas - 1 - born Bristl</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm researching my family history and would welcome any information about my Grandfather John R Grosvenor and his father James who both lived in Longhope from around 1840. John lived ib Parish Mill in 1901 but it is not the current Parish Mill. Where was it?</p>
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