Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Absent Voters Lists - in connection with the Census

Absent Voters Lists - in connection with the Census (reply)

vcatkinson — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:55:27 +0000

Absent/Postal votes were first used in WW1 for the forces and the lists of those exist but after that absent/postal votes were very restricted. You had to have a very good reason such as long term incapacity or a member of the forces but now anyone can have one without giving a reason and they now form about a fifth of the voting population.
These lists are never published but are by law given to political parties.

Evan Clement LLOYD 1877 - 1953 ? (reply)

Barbara Lloyd — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:05:07 +0000

Hello Slowhands

Please, I need your help I have looked closely at the two Lloyd families on the 1911
Census and I cannot see the connection you are referring to.

Any help appreciated

Barbara

Evan Clement LLOYD 1877 - 1953 ? (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:28:51 +0000

But where was he when he should have been at home on the night of the
Census in 1911?.

I think you may need to look closely at who is with who on the night of the 1911 census :-)

Thomas LLOYD - Cheltenham (reply)

Barbara Lloyd — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:59:10 +0000

The Thomas Lloyd of Colebridge Cottage General Dealer, does not appear to belong
to us.

But Minsterworth Old Bath Road Cheltenham was the old family home, and David
Sackville Lloyd is one of ours he was a Pharmacist and did practice in London
and Cheltenham.

Any more information much appreciated

Barbara

Thomas LLOYD - Cheltenham (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:22:55 +0000

Not sure if this is one of yours!!! -

National Probate Calender 1923

Thomas LLOYD - of Colebridge-cottage Cheltenham - general dealer, died 14 February 1923 . Probate Gloucester 19 March to Mary LLOYD, widow and Wilfrd Harold Humphries Langley-Smith Solicitor. Effects £ ..................... (amount on Ancestry)

Thomas LLOYD age 64 c1859

this is one of yours

1927

Thomas LLOYD of Minsterworth Old Bath-road Cheltenham died 20 February 1927. Probate Gloucester 17 March to Harriet LLOYD - widow. Effects £.........................(amount of Ancestry)

Thomas LLOYD age 83 c1844

On Ancestry - British Phone Books

D SACKVILLE LLOYD - Cheltenham 1462

Minsterworth Old Bath Road (from 1925-1930)

Evan Clement LLOYD 1877 - 1953 ? (reply)

Barbara Lloyd — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:02:00 +0000

Hello Slowhands and Michael,

Slowhands you have identified Evan Clement very accurately, this is
my Husband's Grandfather.

Evan's Father Thomas was Relieving Officer for Cheltenham. Evan's
eldest daughter was brought up and educated by Thomas. Evan was
married to Bertha Keyse from Long Hope and there are many connections
with the Forest Long Hope and in particular the Dawe's and Bright families.

Michael, I am going to check out further with Kelly's Directory with regard
to the shop it is possible that he could be connected with it as he
had many iron's in the fire, his main occupation was a compositor in
the printing trade.

But where was he when he should have been at home on the night of the
Census in 1911?.

This family is full of mystery Thomas Lloyd bn 15.11.1841 (Evan's Father) had
a brother Evan bn 1847 in Crickhowell and is noted by a member of the family
that he was lost at Sea, I am searching for any information relating to him.

also you give details of Evan's Military Service, the family know he was in
France and hospitalised there, but there is nothing in his military record
to say so - he was missing again.

Thank you for all your help.

Barbara

Evan Clement LLOYD (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 06:44:15 +0000

Ancestry

Kelly's Directory - Cheltenham - 1910

Evan Clement LLOYD - 43 Tewkesbury Road (Shopkeeper)

If he rented/owned a shop there should be records in the Gloucestershire Records Office.

Evan Clement LLOYD 1877 - 1953 ? (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:27:45 +0000

Name: Evan Clement Lloyd
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Cheltenham
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 437

1891
Thomas Lloyd abt 1844 Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales Head Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Harriett Lloyd abt 1846 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Harriett Lloyd abt 1874 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Henry Lloyd abt 1876 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Evan Lloyd abt 1878 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Thomas Lloyd abt 1880 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Blanche Lloyd abt 1885 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
David Lloyd abt 1886 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
William Lloyd abt 1889 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

Name: Clement Lloyd
Name: Bertha Keyse
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Cheltenham
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 583

1901
Evan Clement Lloyd abt 1877 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Gloucester, Gloucestershire Print Compositor
Bertha Lloyd abt 1879 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Gloucester, Gloucestershire
Vilet Gwendolen Lloyd abt 1901 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester, Gloucestershire

1901
Thomas Lloyd abt 1844 Brecon Crickhowell Head Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Harriett Lloyd abt 1846 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Harriett A Lloyd abt 1874 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Blanche S Lloyd abt 1885 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Sackville D G Lloyd abt 1886 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
William D Lloyd abt 1889 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

two possible families in 1911 - appear to "shuffle" Evan's family with his brother David - and Evan disappears
I suspect the later children are born to Lloyd - Lloyd parents

1911
LLOYD SACKVILLE DAVID GEORGE M 1887 24 Cheltenham Gloucestershire
LLOYD BERTHA F 1879 32 Cheltenham Gloucestershire
LLOYD ALBERT M 1905 6 Cheltenham Gloucestershire
LLOYD ELIZABETH F 1911 1 WEEK Cheltenham Gloucestershire
LLOYD IVORY F 1907 4 Cheltenham Gloucestershire
LLOYD SYLVIA F 1909 2 Cheltenham Gloucestershire

1911
LLOYD THOMAS M 1843 68 Cheltenham Gloucestershire
LLOYD HARRIETT F 1845 66 Cheltenham Gloucestershire
LLOYD HARRIETT ANNE F 1874 37 Cheltenham Gloucestershire
LLOYD GWENDOLINE BERTHA VIOLET F 1901 10 Cheltenham Gloucestershire

WWI medals
Name: Evan Clement Lloyd
Regiment or Corps: Devonshire Regiment
Regimental Number: 35689
Enlisted 8 - 12 - 1915
Discharged 12-6-1917 sickness

Name: Evan C Lloyd
Death Registration Month/Year: 1953
Age at death (estimated): 78
Registration district: Cheltenham
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 319

Absent Voters Lists - in connection with the Census (reply)

djones — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 20:46:44 +0000

You must remember that it was not until 1918 that all males over 21 and females over 30 had the vote.

Universal suffrage came in 1928

Absent Voters Lists - in connection with the Census (reply)

Barbara Lloyd — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 20:24:19 +0000

I forgot to mention in my previous posting it is the 1911 Census in
particular that Evan Clement is missing from.

Barbara Lloyd

Absent Voters Lists - in connection with the Census (reply)

Barbara Lloyd — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 20:16:07 +0000

Evan Clement Lloyd my husband's Grandfather, we have the remainder of the
family documented his Wife Bertha and the children a week old baby
Elizabeth but no Evan Clement I have tried every combination and spelling
and looked at all the Evan Clement Lloyd's out of the Gloucestershire are
but nothing fits - we think his Wife may just have forgotten to add him
to the list.!

Barbara Lloyd

Absent Voters Lists - in connection with the Census (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 19:14:44 +0000

What name are you looking for

Surnames etc - sometimes are transcribed incorrectly - as it is on any census return.

Absent Voters Lists - in connection with the Census

Barbara Lloyd — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:59:10 +0000

A family history magazine suggested that if you cannot find a relative on the
Census the answer might be in the Absent Voters List. I asked at the National Archives at Kew yesterday did they hold these records, and nobody could answer. Further investigation suggested that either the local Council or the County Record
Offices. - As I am looking for a missing relative in 1911 in Cheltenham
does anybody have any experience or suggestions to help.

Barbara Lloyd