Forest of Dean FHT Forum - JAMES BROWN BORN 1813 AND WIFE ELIZA

JAMES BROWN BORN 1813 AND WIFE ELIZA (reply)

sammaspat — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:08:27 +0000

IM THE SAME HAVE GOT TO JAMES BROWN 1813 MARRIED ELIZA PHIPPS BEFORE THAT VERY CONFUSED I AM GOING THROUGH MY GGG STRATFORD FRANK BROWN PARKEND
CAN ANYONE SORT
THANK YOU

JAMES BROWN BORN 1813 AND WIFE ELIZA (reply)

unknown — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:42:38 +0000

Hello Carol
Are you saying Thomas Brown baptised at breams eaves on 26.06.1791 is the father of James Brown born 1813 married to Eliza Phipps.
My interest is. gggg grandfather Joseph Brown born c1754 Newnham had a son Thomas Brown born c1783 Newnham. I think married Elizabeth Hopper 1806 awre, curious about the dates.
Many Thanks
Terry

JAMES BROWN BORN 1813 AND WIFE ELIZA (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:37:39 +0000

Carol, this tree is on Public Members Tree Ancestry

Joseph BROWN married Elizabeth EDWARDS - 1 October 1817 at St Briavels

Joseph BROWN - 1755-1838 - Gloucester County England
Elizabeth GRIFFITHS - 1762-1846

FOD records, Joseph BROWN married Elizabeth GRIFFITHS - 5 July 1785, Newland, witnesses: George KEAR and Jno EVANS

JAMES BROWN BORN 1813 AND WIFE ELIZA (reply)

winky — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:33:18 +0000

Thomas Brown was baptised at breams eaves on 26.06.1791 the son of Joseph Brown and Elizabeth Griffiths who were married at Newland on 20.11.1841.

Does anyone know if Joseph Brown had originated from the Browns of Tintern as most of them settled in the Bream/Whitecroft area?

Thank you to all those who have made such valuable contributions to this wonderful site.

Carol Brown

Stratford Frank BROWN 1868-1936 Whitecroft - Prior thread (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:15:40 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=24537

Year: 1869
Month: Feb
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: BROWN
Child_Forenames: Sratford Frank
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Frances
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecroft
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: James G Cocks
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Oct 19 1868
Notes:
Register_Reference: D2598 8/4
Page_Number: 8
Parish_Chapel: Coleford Wesleyan Methodist

Stratford Frank BROWN (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:09:50 +0000

'my trace is through James to Frank Stratford BROWN my Great Grandad' .... on previous thread

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Stratford Frank BROWN - O/N/D Qtr 1868 - Gloucestershire/Herefordshire/Monmouthshire

1871 Census - West Dean, Whitecroft

BROWN

James - 28 - Engine Smith, born Glos. Newland
Frances - 26 - born West Dean
James R - 6
Albert G - 4
Stratford F - 2

Eliza PHIPPS/James BROWN - baptisms etc (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:17:26 +0000

On the census, Eliza - says she was born in Newland (c1813/14)

FOD records - Christening

Eliza PHIPPS
28 March 1813 - Newland

parents: Thomas (labourer) & Sarah - address Whitecliff -

By using the Advanced Search on this forum - other siblings 'crop up' - both for Eliza and James PHIPPS - address Whitecliff

e.g.

Thomas - 11 June 1815 at Coleford and Eleanor 6 October 1816 1816 at Coleford

FOD records Marriage at Newland

Thomas PHIPPS married Sarah STEPHENS - 14 January 1811, Newland

? 1841 Census, Newland
Clearwell

Thos. PHIPPS - 50 Ag. Lab. born in County
Thos PHIPPS - 20 - Iron Miner
Sarah PHIPPS - 50 - born in County
Hannah PHIPPS - 15 - born in County

1851 Census, West Dean
Clearwell Meend

Thomas PHIPPS age 62, General Labourer, born Newland (c1789)
Sarah PHIPPS - age 64 - born West Dean (c1787)

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FOD records - Christening (Baptisms at Coleford Chapel) - Newland

James BROWN - 19 July 1813 - address: Berry Hill -

parents: Thomas and Elizabeth BROWN

and again....

If you use the Advanced Search for other siblings - parents Thomas & Elizabeth BROWN - address Berry Hill (same as James)

we have

Charlotte BROWN - 23 July 1809 parents Thomas & Elizabeth - address Berry Hill - at Newland
Thomas BROWN - 24 May 1807 parents Thomas & Elizabeth - address Berry Hill - at Newland

1841 Census,
Berry Hill

Thomas BROWN - 60, Labourer, born in County
Elizabeth BROWN - 55 - born in County
William BROWN - 18 - born in County
Sarah BROWN - 26 - born in County

JAMES BROWN BORN 1813 AND WIFE ELIZA (reply)

sammaspat — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:01:15 +0000

MY TRACE IS THROUGH JAMES TO STRATFORD FRANK BROWN MY GREAT GRANDAD, IM TRYING TO GO BEFORE JAMES AND ELIZA TO FIND THERE PARENTS
IF YOU WANT ANY IMFORMATION FROM THAT TIME JUST ASK
THANK YOU

James BROWN/Eliza PHIPPS (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:50:41 +0000

The 1841 census was the correct family.

FOD records - James BROWN (c1813) married Eliza PHIPPS (c1813/4) - 24 December 1834 - Newland - witnesses: John & Elizabeth DOBBS

Some of the baptisms are on the FOD records.

Here they are on the 1851 census

Newland, Glos.

Scowles

BROWN

James - 38, Lab. on Kilns, born West Dean
Eliza - 38 - born Newland
Thomas - 12 - at home - born West Dean
George 11 - born West Dean
James 9 - born West Dean
Eliza - 4 - School, born Newland
Moses - 1 - at home - born Newland

1861 Census, Coleford and Newland
Newland, Staunton Road

BROWN

James - 48 - Coal Miner (all born Newland)
Eliza - 48 - formerly Servant
Thomas - 23 Coal Miner
George - 23 - ditto
James - 19 - ditto
Eliza - 14 - Scholar
Henry - 7 at school

and Temperance DRIVER - 43 Widow lodging with William DRIVER - 17 - Iron Miner

1871 Census, Coalway Lane End

BROWN

James - 57 - Ironminer, born Newland
Eliza - 57
Henry - 17 - Coalminer

still there in 1881 Census, James age 68, born Newland P and Eliza age 69

JAMES BROWN BORN 1813 AND WIFE ELIZA (reply)

sammaspat — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:45:16 +0000

THOMAS/GEORGE/ELIZA/MOSES/HENRY/AND JAMES

JAMES BROWN BORN 1813 AND WIFE ELIZA (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:41:09 +0000

Can we have the childrens' names please

1841 Census Dean Forest

James BROWN - 28 - Coal Miner - born in County
Eliza - 28
Thomas - 3
George - 1

JAMES BROWN BORN 1813 AND WIFE ELIZA

sammaspat — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:40:10 +0000

I HAVE THE CHILDREN BUT NOTHING ELSE LIKE HIS PARENTS
I THINK THEY WERE WEST DEAN
ANY HELP
THANKS