Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Morgans and Rooks of Lane End

Morgans and Rooks of Lane End (reply)

rookancestrybest — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:18:58 +0000

Some of my relatives were in Pontypridd too.

Culham College (reply)

rookancestrybest — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:18:08 +0000

I contacted Culham College's archives earlier this year. They said that I can go and look at them and that there are relevant records there. However, I have to go to Oxford to look at them and book in advance. I didn't realise though that he must have been one of its first students.
I found one or two schoolmasters in later records who seemed to fit the bill but nothing conclusive. The problem is that Morgan is such a common name it's hard to find the right people.

Morgans and Rooks of Lane End (reply)

AlanBrown — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:02:11 +0000

I know our Morgans lived at Lane end but William born ?1853 Newlands moved to Pontyprith some time after 1881, where in 1888 he married a Caroline Whittington.

Culham College (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:23:45 +0000

My mother always said that there were people called Morgan in the family, one of whom she said had an M.A. from Oxford. She said it was Henry. She also used to speak of Fanny Morgan. Slowhands once found some info. on the latter but I could find no links with my own family apart from them living close by. However, I have found a scrap of paper in the last three and a half years with Thomas Morgan's name written on it, in copperplate handwriting with the date Sept. 8th [or 6th?]1854 and Culham College, Oxon. after it (there is some geometry on the back of it in the same handwriting). Culham College was a teacher training college then and seems to be an institute for religious studies now.

Looks like your Morgan was possibly one of the first students.

Culham college, built in 1852/3, at a cost of nearly £20,000, was a training school for schoolmasters of the dioceses of Oxford and Gloucester, and contained accommodation for 130 students

You may find more info in its records.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=O39207

Held at the Bodleian and Oxfordshire Archives

Because of changing "boundaries" this is a corner of Oxfordshire / Berkshire despite being only 6 or so miles from Oxford ! In 1861 both Culham and Abingdon are recorded in Berkshire.

The College Vice Principal at the time is William Pickard of Yarmouth, and the "student" School masters are aged 19 - 21. Perhaps your Thomas Morgan was born around 1830/35 (?)

Morgans and Rooks of Lane End (reply)

rookancestrybest — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:30:46 +0000

My mother used to say there was a Henry Morgan in her family and there was definitely a Thomas Morgan who went to Culham College, Oxford too. My Rook family were from Lane End and I am wondering if your Morgans link with the ones I am looking for. If your Henry Morgan links with my Rooks I would be interested because I've never found any conclusive material to show how the Morgans were related to the Rooks. My mother said they were some sort of cousins and knew a lot about them. I know Slowhands did some work on it but I wasn't sure we definitely had the correct Thomas Morgan or Henry Morgan. Thomas Morgan definitely went to Culham College, Oxford but I cannot find where he worked or lived after that.

William MORGAN 1853 Lane End (?) (reply)

AlanBrown — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:50:19 +0000

Yes they are all my Morgans as Henry died 23/1/1868 leaving Mar Ann a widow and also blind

William MORGAN 1853 Lane End (?) (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:30:19 +0000

There are a number of BMD entries for Monmouth dist in 1852/54 for William MORGAN's

I'm getting the feeling of a Non-Conformist family - its possible the birth is not in BMD.

1881
Mary Ann Morgan abt 1829 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Morgan abt 1853 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Amos Morgan abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Louisa Morgan abt 1862 Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Tom Morgan abt 1864 Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Morgan abt 1866 Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Morgan abt 1867 Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Morgan abt 1869 Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 Lane End
Mary A Morgan 42
John H Morgan 22
William Morgan 19
George Morgan 17
Hannah Morgan 14
Amos Morgan 12
Louisa Morgan 10
Thomas Morgan 8
James Morgan 6
Sarah Morgan 4
Joseph Morgan 2

1861 Littledean Rd Christchurch
Henry Morgan abt 1826 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ama Morgan abt 1829 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Henery Morgan abt 1849 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Morgan abt 1853 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
George Morgan abt 1854 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Morgan abt 1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Amos Morgan abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1849
Month: Mar
Day: 12
Grooms_Surname: MORGAN
Grooms_Forenames: Henry
Grooms_Age: of full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Lane End
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Morgan
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: ALLFORD
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann
Brides_Age: of full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: none stated
Brides_Residence: Coleford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Allford
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Recorder
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: William Allford
Witness_2: Hannah Morgan
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Thomas Reynolds Off Min
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 226
Parish_Chapel: Newland

1841
Henry Morgan abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Morgan abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
George Morgan abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Henry Morgan abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Hannah Morgan abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Maria Morgan abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Morgan abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Year: 1826
Month: Sep
Day: 13
Parents_Surname: MORGAN
Child_Forenames: Henry
Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Mothers_Forenames: Eliz[abe]th
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest
Occupation: Coalminer
Officiating_Minister: JA Stuart Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 68
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

William Morgan

AlanBrown — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:04:41 +0000

I am lookingb for the exact date of birth for William Morgan brn 1853 Forest of Dean son of Henry Morgan 13/9/1826 and Mary Ann Alford 22/2/1829. Henry Morgan was the son of another Henry born about 1803-1811, it would be nice to trace his mother and father also.